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Guest Post: "If my amendment is passed, Nicola Packer will go down in history as the last woman in England and Wales to be prosecuted for an abortion"

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RhiannonEMumsnet · 02/06/2025 14:07

Tonia Antoniazzi MP

Tonia Antoniazzi is the Labour MP for Gower.

73% of Mumsnet users want abortion to be decriminalised which is why it was included in the GE2024 Mumsnet Manifesto - one of twelve policy asks for the new government, based on the experiences and opinions that millions of women have shared on site.

I agree.

Like many of you I’ve been horrified by the increasing number of women who’ve been arrested by police for suspected illegal abortion.

In the last five years, more than 100 women have been investigated under the ‘Offences Against the Person Act’ 1861. Eight of these women have appeared in court. One has been jailed. Among those arrested have been women who’ve suffered natural miscarriages and stillbirths, and others who have gone into unexplained premature labour.

It’s just wrong. It’s a waste of taxpayers’ money. It’s a waste of the judiciary’s time.

As the Mumsnet Manifesto said, it’s also not in the public interest to prosecute. We know that no woman ends her pregnancy out of malice – only out of desperation.

It was meeting Nicola Packer at her trial for alleged illegal abortion at Isleworth Crown Court in southwest London that strengthened my resolve to push for a change in the law. My colleague Tracy Gilbert MP and I spoke to her days before she was unanimously cleared by a jury.

Seeing Nicola in the dock, afraid and humiliated, my heart went out to her.

Nicola has been hugely traumatised by her prosecution – having maintained throughout her trial that she was unaware she was any more than 10 weeks’ pregnant. She has also spent the last four-and-a-half years waiting for her case to come to court, living in constant fear that she could go to jail.

To me it was obvious Nicola was not the suspect, but the victim. The victim of a Victorian-era law that criminalises women who end their own pregnancies.

That’s why, last month in Parliament, I tabled an amendment to the Crime and Policing Bill. A move that has the backing of more than 100 MPs and 50 organisations including Mumsnet, the British Medical Association and five medical Royal Colleges.

My amendment targets the draconian ‘Offences Against the Person Act’ of 1861. This law means abortion is still a criminal offence in England and Wales except under specific circumstances. If you try to end your own pregnancy at any gestation outside the law the maximum sentence is life in prison – the most severe penalty for an illegal abortion in the world.

In 2019 my colleagues in Westminster repealed this archaic law for Northern Ireland. My amendment will simply bring legislation up to date in England and Wales – and in line with 50 other places worldwide including Ireland, Canada, France, Australia and New Zealand.

My amendment will not, however, remove any important safeguards. The Abortion Act of 1967 will be unchanged. This means you can legally access an abortion provided you meet certain criteria: you are under 24 weeks’ pregnant, you meet one of seven medical reasons, and have your abortion signed off by two doctors. My amendment will not change any law regarding the provision of abortion services within a healthcare setting or the provision of telemedicine.

Parliament is expected to vote on the amendment in early summer. If it gets passed, all cases currently going through the criminal justice system will end. And Nicola Packer will go down in history as the last woman in England and Wales to be prosecuted for an abortion.

If you agree that abortion must be decriminalised, support my amendment by contacting your MP using this link: https://www.bpas.org/our-cause/campaigns/abortion-law-reform/

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TheTwoLeggedGrooveMachine · 02/06/2025 17:52

I have emailed my MP from your link, thank you. The way Nicola was treated was abhorrent. I hope she can find peace now.

southeastkat · 03/06/2025 09:33

Police arresting women who have had miscarriages, searching period apps, going to prison for ending their own pregnancies. I can't believe that we are talking about the UK, not the US.

Thank you Tonia xxx

GoulashSoup · 04/06/2025 18:07

Diolch Tonia

CaffeineAndAlcoholFree · 05/06/2025 12:44

About time too! Women being prosecuted under outdated Victorian laws, awful.

Thanks for this Tonia.

Thesleepykettle · 05/06/2025 18:54

I’ve sent to my MP, thanks

PaulKnickerless · 11/06/2025 17:33

Thank you Tonia, this is really important ❤️

pointythings · 11/06/2025 18:59

My MP is a diehard Tory and I doubt he will do the right thing, but I'll ping him anyway.

AirborneElephant · 12/06/2025 10:01

I’ve sent to my MP. Abortion should never be a crime, the legislation should target abortion providers, not pregnant women.

WhatDidIComeInThisRoomFor · 12/06/2025 11:54

pointythings · 11/06/2025 18:59

My MP is a diehard Tory and I doubt he will do the right thing, but I'll ping him anyway.

My MP is diehard Labour and voted against women in NI having the same abortion rights as women in England last time round. There’s no way she’ll back anything like this.

Your MP might surprise you!

Viviennemary · 12/06/2025 12:30

I disagree. Of course it should be crime for a woman to kill her unborn child near to term.

blueshedhermit · 12/06/2025 12:35

RhiannonEMumsnet · 02/06/2025 14:07

73% of Mumsnet users want abortion to be decriminalised which is why it was included in the GE2024 Mumsnet Manifesto - one of twelve policy asks for the new government, based on the experiences and opinions that millions of women have shared on site.

I agree.

Like many of you I’ve been horrified by the increasing number of women who’ve been arrested by police for suspected illegal abortion.

In the last five years, more than 100 women have been investigated under the ‘Offences Against the Person Act’ 1861. Eight of these women have appeared in court. One has been jailed. Among those arrested have been women who’ve suffered natural miscarriages and stillbirths, and others who have gone into unexplained premature labour.

It’s just wrong. It’s a waste of taxpayers’ money. It’s a waste of the judiciary’s time.

As the Mumsnet Manifesto said, it’s also not in the public interest to prosecute. We know that no woman ends her pregnancy out of malice – only out of desperation.

It was meeting Nicola Packer at her trial for alleged illegal abortion at Isleworth Crown Court in southwest London that strengthened my resolve to push for a change in the law. My colleague Tracy Gilbert MP and I spoke to her days before she was unanimously cleared by a jury.

Seeing Nicola in the dock, afraid and humiliated, my heart went out to her.

Nicola has been hugely traumatised by her prosecution – having maintained throughout her trial that she was unaware she was any more than 10 weeks’ pregnant. She has also spent the last four-and-a-half years waiting for her case to come to court, living in constant fear that she could go to jail.

To me it was obvious Nicola was not the suspect, but the victim. The victim of a Victorian-era law that criminalises women who end their own pregnancies.

That’s why, last month in Parliament, I tabled an amendment to the Crime and Policing Bill. A move that has the backing of more than 100 MPs and 50 organisations including Mumsnet, the British Medical Association and five medical Royal Colleges.

My amendment targets the draconian ‘Offences Against the Person Act’ of 1861. This law means abortion is still a criminal offence in England and Wales except under specific circumstances. If you try to end your own pregnancy at any gestation outside the law the maximum sentence is life in prison – the most severe penalty for an illegal abortion in the world.

In 2019 my colleagues in Westminster repealed this archaic law for Northern Ireland. My amendment will simply bring legislation up to date in England and Wales – and in line with 50 other places worldwide including Ireland, Canada, France, Australia and New Zealand.

My amendment will not, however, remove any important safeguards. The Abortion Act of 1967 will be unchanged. This means you can legally access an abortion provided you meet certain criteria: you are under 24 weeks’ pregnant, you meet one of seven medical reasons, and have your abortion signed off by two doctors. My amendment will not change any law regarding the provision of abortion services within a healthcare setting or the provision of telemedicine.

Parliament is expected to vote on the amendment in early summer. If it gets passed, all cases currently going through the criminal justice system will end. And Nicola Packer will go down in history as the last woman in England and Wales to be prosecuted for an abortion.

If you agree that abortion must be decriminalised, support my amendment by contacting your MP using this link: https://www.bpas.org/our-cause/campaigns/abortion-law-reform/

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DoItLikeAWoman · 12/06/2025 12:40

Done!

pointythings · 12/06/2025 12:45

blueshedhermit · 12/06/2025 12:35

Abortion at 37 weeks is vanishingly rare to the point of doesn't happen, and when it does, it tends to be for devastating medical reasons. Trust women to make the decision.

SilenceInside · 12/06/2025 12:45

Totally agree with Tonia, very glad this is hopefully happening.

BestIsWest · 12/06/2025 12:48

Constituent of yours here and you have my full support.

blueshedhermit · 12/06/2025 13:02

This is horrific- decriminalisation is a misnomer, this is an attempt to legalise home abortions up to birth, and will cause unimaginable trauma to women. I have never met any midwife, consultant or woman considering abortion who is comfortable with a woman taking abortion pills and seeing the body of her 37 week old child.
This is being challenged by a cross-party group of MPs in an amendment requiring the reintroduction of an in-person consultation:
Amendment NC106 would reinstate in-person consultations with a medical professional prior to an abortion taking place at home.
At this consultation, medical professionals would have the opportunity to accurately assess, in person, any likely health risks for a woman taking abortion pills, her gestational age and the possibility of a coerced abortion.
This would help protect women from the health risks involved with performing a late-term abortion, along with identifying many other health risks that can be accurately assessed with an in-person consultation.
Link below.
https://righttolife.org.uk/protectbothlivesuk

Protect Both Lives campaign - Email your MP

Ask your MP to support amendment NC106 to the Crime and Policing Bill to reinstate in-person consultations to help protect women and babies from dangerous late-term home abortions.

https://righttolife.org.uk/protectbothlivesuk

pointythings · 12/06/2025 14:13

blueshedhermit · 12/06/2025 13:02

This is horrific- decriminalisation is a misnomer, this is an attempt to legalise home abortions up to birth, and will cause unimaginable trauma to women. I have never met any midwife, consultant or woman considering abortion who is comfortable with a woman taking abortion pills and seeing the body of her 37 week old child.
This is being challenged by a cross-party group of MPs in an amendment requiring the reintroduction of an in-person consultation:
Amendment NC106 would reinstate in-person consultations with a medical professional prior to an abortion taking place at home.
At this consultation, medical professionals would have the opportunity to accurately assess, in person, any likely health risks for a woman taking abortion pills, her gestational age and the possibility of a coerced abortion.
This would help protect women from the health risks involved with performing a late-term abortion, along with identifying many other health risks that can be accurately assessed with an in-person consultation.
Link below.
https://righttolife.org.uk/protectbothlivesuk

What nonsense. You know the statistics on abortion, I trust? The % of abortions past 20 weeks is tiny. And the % of those done for medical reasons is vast.

I can recall one case of a woman asking for a termination at 36 weeks without a medical reason. She did not get one because she was mentally very unwell and considered not to have capacity.

Women do not have late abortions for trivial reasons. What it boils down to is that you don't trust women to make good decisions.

And be honest: Right to Life is an organisation that wants to ban ALL abortions. Be honest about that.

No woman should be prosecuted and jailed for abortion. We can see where that leads; to women getting jailed for miscarriage. That is what this law is here to stop.

Viviennemary · 12/06/2025 14:24

pointythings · 12/06/2025 14:13

What nonsense. You know the statistics on abortion, I trust? The % of abortions past 20 weeks is tiny. And the % of those done for medical reasons is vast.

I can recall one case of a woman asking for a termination at 36 weeks without a medical reason. She did not get one because she was mentally very unwell and considered not to have capacity.

Women do not have late abortions for trivial reasons. What it boils down to is that you don't trust women to make good decisions.

And be honest: Right to Life is an organisation that wants to ban ALL abortions. Be honest about that.

No woman should be prosecuted and jailed for abortion. We can see where that leads; to women getting jailed for miscarriage. That is what this law is here to stop.

It doesn't matter how tiny the proportion is it shouldn't happen at all except on medical advice and under medical supervision and only in the most extreme cases of serious medical problems. And not women doing DIY abortions on nearly to term pregnancies. It's totally horrific IMHO.

pointythings · 12/06/2025 15:13

Viviennemary · 12/06/2025 14:24

It doesn't matter how tiny the proportion is it shouldn't happen at all except on medical advice and under medical supervision and only in the most extreme cases of serious medical problems. And not women doing DIY abortions on nearly to term pregnancies. It's totally horrific IMHO.

Do you really think the very very few women who take abortion pills very late on do it for trivial reasons? Because if your answer is yes, you clearly don't like or trust women.

Personally I would favour the NZ model - abortion on demand to 20 weeks, thereafter in consultation with a doctor. Criminal law should not be part of it at all.

AirborneElephant · 12/06/2025 15:15

Viviennemary · 12/06/2025 14:24

It doesn't matter how tiny the proportion is it shouldn't happen at all except on medical advice and under medical supervision and only in the most extreme cases of serious medical problems. And not women doing DIY abortions on nearly to term pregnancies. It's totally horrific IMHO.

of course it’s horrific. But it should never, ever be a crime for the pregnant woman herself. Never. Every woman seeking a late term abortion is doing so because she is desperate, or mentally ill, or both. It is not in anyone’s interest to make her a criminal. Legislate to control the supply of drugs, the providers of abortion, whatever. But a pregnant woman’s body is her own right up to birth, and what she herself does to her body should never be a crime.

AirborneElephant · 12/06/2025 15:23

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/sep/24/abortion-prosecutions-roe-v-wade This is the impact of criminalising abortion. THIS is truly horrific, not a few bad mistakes or desperate women. Women being arrested for perceived “risky behaviour” when they are pregnant, anti-abortion groups using legislation to police women’s choices and bodies and control what they do. We are seeing it loud and clear in America, I was previously blind to how much it happens here, and we desperately need to change the law to stop it.

More than 200 pregnancy-related prosecutions in first year post-Roe

Study finds highest yearly number of prosecutions related to pregnancy – and experts say that is likely an undercount

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/sep/24/abortion-prosecutions-roe-v-wade

pointythings · 12/06/2025 15:59

The fact that the number of prosecutions has shot up in the UK is clear evidence that the forced birth lobby is gaining traction here. This law is an essential part of the fightback.

FatherFrosty · 12/06/2025 16:12

Done. Although my mp is anti abortion so….

BlackCatsForever · 12/06/2025 16:32

We already have some of the most liberal abortion laws in Europe. Why do they need to be relaxed even further?

A baby girl was killed in the most barbaric way but I see no empathy for her. Her life mattered and she deserved justice.