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Guest post: “There have been 60 other UK women killed in violence claimed to be consensual”

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BojanaMumsnet · 09/06/2020 14:53

I am so so glad that Mumsnet users gave their support to this campaign – Mumsnet is such a powerful campaigning force, and this campaign began right here. MNers can take action today to give us the best chance to change this.

I set up We Can’t Consent To This at the end of 2018, in response to the astonishingly short sentence given to the partner of Natalie Connolly. He was allowed by prosecutors to plead guilty to manslaughter, and given a three year eight month sentence by the judge, after Natalie died with terrible injuries at their home. Natalie’s partner claimed her brutal beating and appalling internal injuries were due to “rough sex” that she’d consented to; and this “consent” was accepted by the court. Natalie’s dad Alan since said, “Natalie is no longer here to tell us what he did to her or why he left her where he did. But there is absolutely no way she would have consented to what she was put through. One thing is for certain - Natalie didn't fantasise about being killed or leaving her daughter without a mum that night. Like so many other women, she didn’t consent to being brutally injured in the name of sex.”

And Natalie isn’t alone – we’ve found that there are 60 other UK women who’ve been killed in violence claimed to be consensual: this is the “rough sex defence”. You can see their stories on our website. And there are many more women injured in non-fatal assaults. Every woman who has been able to say so, says she did not consent to the violence. Only men have used a rough sex defence, often in appallingly serious violence. What’s more, its use is increasing. 13 women have been killed since Natalie Connolly, where a “rough sex” claim was used by the defendant.

Using a rough sex claim in defence works too often: in 45% of homicides, the men get a lesser charge, a lighter sentence, or no charges at all. Often the woman’s sexual history is presented in court, to show she ‘consented’ to violence.

All this is at a time of a shocking violent assault of women in sex: research reported that 38% of UK women under 40 experienced unwanted slapping, choking, gagging, or spitting during consensual sex. This could mean 3.6 million UK women have been violently assaulted. Hundreds have written to us sharing their experiences, relatively few of those women have contacted police, but the criminal justice system must be ready to support them if they do.

Now, there is already a lawalready law that says you can’t consent to serious violence. But our research shows that this case law is not up to the task. It’s routinely disregarded. And as reported last week, the CPS confirmed they won’t prosecute violence where the defendant might say it was consensual: that they won’t try to prosecute using this existing law.

So, Parliament must step in. MPs across parties are gathering behind this: Harriet Harman has worked with Mark Garnier - the MP for Natalie Connolly’s family - and MP Laura Farris, to propose a set of amendments to the Domestic Abuse bill, which would go some way to end the success of these claims.

Only the government can - and must – bring these claims to a real end. We need change at every stage of the criminal justice system, for women in relationships with perpetrators, and for those who had only just met. After our campaign, the government promised their own review of rough sex defences, to prevent perpetrators evading justice – and we do know they take this issue seriously. You might have seen Boris Johnson say the defence is “inexcusable” when Laura Farris asked him about this at PMQs last week. But we don’t know if his government is bold enough to come back with full proposals of their own. Real change is far from certain.

For now, we have firm proposals from Harriet, Mark and Laura: to make the law clear - that you cannot consent to serious injury or death, to stop women’s sexual histories being used against them in homicide trials and to introduce a specific serious offence of non-fatal strangulation. We want as many individual MPs to sign up to these as possible – so the government knows how wide the support is for far reaching change that only they can make.

And for MNers in Scotland or Northern Ireland, we will campaign for similar change for you. We’ve already spoken with Holyrood MSPs to kick this off in Scotland. For now though, all UK MNers can help us with change to the Domestic Abuse bill.

These “rough sex” claims have been working for fifty years, we need law change and more to fix this. Our chance to change the law can begin today, when MPs will discuss the “rough sex” amendments in parliament.

So this week we want all UK Mumnsetters: to sign and share our petition, and email your MP. We know from MPs that constituent emails make a huge difference and I know how formidable a force MNers can be.

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FionaMackenzie · 10/06/2020 16:41

@Binglebong

Great that you've started this but why not use the government e-petitions so you can (with enough signatures) guarantee a discussion in parliament?
Thank you - when our excellent campaign partners Grazia mag set this up, parliament had been dissolved for the December election. They switch off the parliament petitions site when parliament's been dissolved, so we had to go with this one.

The good news is that we've got firm amendments before parliament now, so these will be discussed in more detail by MPs - probably early next week at the Domestic Abuse bill committee

FionaMackenzie · 10/06/2020 16:49

@AnneElliott

Thanks. Signed and shared. This is appalling. I was going to make the point raised by a pp that the case of Brown (where the principle of not consenting you assault comes from) involved men. How convenient that it doesn't apply to women!
Well, of course lawyers will say it does apply to women and it's perfectly clear....

But the law is ill equipped for the reality of what it's facing: even where judges have applied the Brown case law, warning the defendants that "you cannot use consent as a defence" to a charge of ABH, they have then allowed for reasonable belief in consent in sentencing. So a man pleads guilty to a charge of violent assault, but says he thought she was consenting. The court hears endless evidence of her sex life - including video evidence in some cases, the detail all reported in the press with her name. And man given a lighter sentence because the judge accepts he thought the woman was consenting.

It is outrageous.

littlbrowndog · 10/06/2020 17:11

Consenting to being chocked to death. Ffs

runningon · 10/06/2020 20:13

Disgusting, why are women so disposable in 2020, what went wrong?
Signed and I'll write to my MP too.

Melroses · 10/06/2020 21:59

Thank you I will write to my MP.

I can't believe that 2020 is so backwards.

EmperorCovidula · 11/06/2020 07:49

Thank you. This is sorely needed. I remember having a conversation with a law lecturers at one of the most prestigious law schools in the country about this (we were talking about the original BDSM case that made this legal, can’t remember the name). He seemed to have genuinely no idea that this was a regular occurrence. I’ve signed and shared.,

FionaMackenzie · 11/06/2020 08:25

THANK you all Flowers

I remember having a conversation with a law lecturers at one of the most prestigious law schools in the country about this (we were talking about the original BDSM case that made this legal, can’t remember the name). He seemed to have genuinely no idea that this was a regular occurrence.

Completely - one of our core goals is for legal professionals to know about the real life impact on women when they talk about this. Almost all of the legal discussion of this topic in last few decades has only considered consensual sadomasochists like the men in the original Brown case. And therefore there's widespread thinking that the current law is illiberal, and should be overturned.

The CPS perhaps confirmed this last week: they are refusing to prosecute violence because "the courts have shown an interest in changing the law so that the suspect could say that you consented to these assaults. This would be difficult to disprove".

The law commissions in England (1994) and in Scotland (2007) also both separately proposed to liberalise the law - so to roll back the existing law, in the other direction. Neither of these proposals made any consideration on impact on women and girls (and fortunately for us they weren't implemented).

FionaMackenzie · 11/06/2020 08:47

We just hit 60,000 signatures Glitterball Star !

OvaHere · 11/06/2020 09:49

@FionaMackenzie

That's great. Well done!
stillathing · 11/06/2020 13:41

Signed. Will share. Thanks for this!

corpsebrid3 · 11/06/2020 14:18

Signed

Wishforsnow · 11/06/2020 14:23

Signed and will share. Thank you

GrandmaMazur · 11/06/2020 14:46

Signed

CHIRIBAYA · 11/06/2020 15:29

Have signed and e-mailed my MP. All those heartbreaking stories. Please let us know which MPs fail to support the amendment and I shall write to them too.

flowerpotsandrain · 11/06/2020 18:11

Signed, as a victim of a violent rape that the beast claimed was consensual and dragged me through years of court for.

GallopingGreen · 11/06/2020 19:55

Thank you for your work on this OP. The Paddy Jackson case also really really shocked and upset me. I am so worried for our daughters.
Signed and shared.

Bloodybridget · 11/06/2020 20:46

I have signed, thank you Flora.

FreeKitties · 11/06/2020 20:46

Fiona thank you for making this happen!

It is long overdue, and I’m grateful for incredible women like you who get things done!

I’ve signed and donated, will also be contacting my MP.

When women work together amazing things will happen Flowers

ChattyLion · 11/06/2020 22:19

Signed petition, written to my MP. Will keep you posted of the response. Thank you so much Fiona Mackenzie for your amazing support of women. You’re a fantastic campaigner. Flowers

Cherrypies · 12/06/2020 00:27

I had no idea! This is just horrendous and heartbreaking
I have signed and shared to Twitter
Thank you ladies

FionaMackenzie · 12/06/2020 09:17

THANK YOU all! It means so much - and I should say that I have absolutely brilliant women who work with me on this - they are all so talented and impressive, and utterly furious about all this.

One of them, Charlotte, knew Grace Millane and www.lbbonline.com/news/we-cant-consent-to-this-creative-campaign-keeps-pressure-on-uk-government-to-drop-rough-sex-defence has spoken this week about what inspired her to work with us on these incredible designs. "We were all horrified by her murder but what was more horrific was the three-week trial where the defence dissected her personal life to try to claim that she consented to it. The press never mentioned the friendly and funny girl who I had trained with and instead partook in victim-blaming"

FionaMackenzie · 12/06/2020 09:28

And please do email your MPs! We think that that MPs will discuss our proposed amendments in committee at parliament from MONDAY*, so the more MPs we have signed up, the more powerful the argument will be.

Everything you need here: wecantconsenttothis.uk/actnow

*the days keep changing so will update on Monday morning if we know more! But please write to your MP today if you can - or over the weekend.

hoodathunkit · 12/06/2020 13:40

Does anyone know if this applies to men as well? Have any men been killed with the defence of "consent to violence"?

I know of 2 men who died due to sex gone wrong. Both gay, both enthusiasts of extremely risky BDSM, both leaving behind devestated partners facing criminal charges. Drugs were involved both times. They were friends of a former collegue of mine, himself a gay leatherman / clone / bear (the categories / definitions may have changed sine this happened, it was in the late 80s / early 90s).

Of course anyone reading the trans widows threads and anyone with an understanding of how power differences and dynamics affect issues around consent will understand that it is probably only a matter of time before a woman faces criminal charges for the death of a male sexual partner, quite possibly in relation to sexual activities she was coerced into and was very uncomfortable with / traumatised by.

My main concern about legislation to stop the rough sex defence in criminal trials is that, like hate crime laws, it may end up being used against victims of gaslighting and coercive control, especially in trans widows type situations.

hoodathunkit · 12/06/2020 14:18

This does not mean that there is no need for legislation. I completely understand that sometimes violent partners, sexual predators and sexual sadists hurt and kill people and falsely claim that it was “sex gone wrong”.

I also understand that there is a very real problem relating to young people, mostly males, viewing pornography showing strangulation and subsequently acting out such scenarios with sexual partners. These young men are putting the lives of their sexual partners at risk, possibly without understanding how dangerous and life threatening such behaviours can be.

There is also a problem with strangulation, asphyxiation and “breath control” / “breath play” being perceived as options on a menu of sexual activities that are discussed, often completely uncritically, in sexual health and sexual wellness clinics.

The reasons for this dangerous situationlies in the history of the development of sexual medicine and the sexual health industry, a history that includes input from sex cults and has also been profoundly influenced by the history of HIV and AIDS.

Back in the 1980s / 90s, at the height of the “Don’t Die of Ignorance” campaign, the fields of sexual health and sexual medicine saw an influx of gay activists, sex worker activists and activists from various sexual minorities who were often employed due to their ability to access / influence “hard to reach groups” considered to be at risk of HIV, which included sex workers and populations of men who have sex with men who engage in high risk sexual behaviour, including varieties of rough sex, group sex, unprotected sex and “kink” (then known as BDSM).

Because nobody wanted to alienate sexual minorities at risk of HIV (or, more likely, bisexual men at risk of being a vector for HIV to a heterosexual cohort) sexual health services, of a completely non-judgemental nature, sprang up everywhere in the NHS, community groups LGB activist groups etc.

I know about this because I was a former sex worker who moved into sexual health as a career progression. I had concerns at the time about some of the activists and their agendas. The seeds they planted are producing some disturbing fruits decades later.

I just wanted to offer an opinion on the fact that there are a diverse range of influences on the fact that some people experiment with dangerous sexual practices.

Pornography definitely has a part to play but so does the sexual medicine / sexual health / sexual wellness / sexology industry.

I am extremely concerned about the sexual health, sexual wellness and sexology fields for a variety of reasons. They have been instrumental in promoting the extreme ends of the transgender movement. There is a significant infiltration by dangerous cults and by pro-paedophile groups.

While it is of course important to be non-judgemental when delivering sexual health services, so as not to alienate people, it is also imortant to have some basic boundaries and to be concerned about safeguarding of vulnerable people.

I was writing a long piece to add to the mumnset thread about whether or not mumsnet should support removing the "sex gone wrong" defence.

I have not had time to finish it, however I think that, if safeguarding is the aim, that this is a battle that needs to be fought on multiple fronts.

The sexual health, sexual medicine, sexology and sexual wellness fields need a thorough overhaul.

There is a very real need for proper sex education grounded in respect for self and other and in respect for reality.

I'm saying that there are clear links between the rising problem of young men attempting dangerous coerced or non consensual strangling of their partners and the phenomena of sex education promoting magical thinking about a zillion different genders.

Apologies for posting this now rather than earlier, I have a lot going on at the moment

ChattyLion · 12/06/2020 14:24

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