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Guest post: "When children are involved, there is no true escape from domestic abuse"

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KiranMumsnet · 31/05/2016 14:17

No-one ever used to ask me if I'd listened to The Archers, but these days I get asked a lot. People are interested to know if I think the Rob and Helen story is true to life. They ask me why Helen hasn't left sooner, as though I'm a bone fide expert in domestic abuse. I'm not. But I am someone who has experienced it first-hand and understands how hard it is to leave, especially when you have children.

I've been delighted at the amount of talk around the Rob and Helen storyline in The Archers. The way that Helen has been trapped by her need to protect her son and the vulnerability of being pregnant has built on the slow drip feed of malice and nuances in expression that characterise emotional abuse. I've also found it a hard listen: it takes me back to a place that I've tried to close the door on. But when there are children involved there is no true escape.

Following the birth of her baby, Helen faces the struggle of sharing a child with a man who will continue to use that fact to exert control, enabled by his supportive mother's willingness to turn a conscious blind eye. Over four years after I finally ended my marriage, I still receive abusive emails telling me what a terrible mother I am and I still have to remind myself that his version of me is not who I am.

It will be interesting to see how The Archers plot unfolds from here; whether Helen will manage to break free from Rob with both of her children and what the long-term impact will be. Her last attempt was an act of violence, which has received much criticism, despite the fact that it's often a natural progression for emotional abuse.

It was certainly an act of violence that finally gave me the means, the courage and – as I perceived it at the time - the valid reason I needed to end my marriage. I had asked him to leave before but he'd dismissed it with a 'don’t be silly, we're married' or a 'you can go if you like but you're not taking my children.' I'd even made an attempt to leave before, de-camping with three children to my mother's house. He'd disappeared to some unknown location and it had snowed like an Alaskan winter. After a week trapped in the house with three young children I asked him to come back for fear I wouldn't cope as a single mum.

I resigned myself to being trapped in that life and wrote my novel, 'The Secret to Not Drowning' as a catharsis. The book is not my own story, but a fictional account of emotional and psychological abuse that maps out a pattern of behaviour some will recognise in their own relationships.

Like Helen, my main character, Marion, is not a battered wife. Like I was, she is controlled, manipulated, bullied, undermined and chipped away at, until she loses the ability to look subjectively at her husband's behaviour and has been isolated from the people who could otherwise tell her, 'that's not right', 'that’s not normal'. It's an insidious abuse that is so hard to articulate, not least because the abuser is so adept at encouraging you to doubt your own perspective and feel responsible for his behaviour.

I might still be in that anxious state of constantly doubting myself if my husband hadn't pushed me down the stairs, hitting me in the face in the process and kicking me as I lay in the hall. I called the police and he told me they'd never believe me because they have 'drama queens' ringing them with false allegations all the time. They did believe me. They let him out with a caution the following day. He'd left his keys in the house. I've never given them back.

When the police called to say they were releasing him, they also told me they'd offered him alcohol and mental health support and he'd declined both. I called a friend. I gathered a bag of his stuff and when he arrived on the doorstep I waited in the kitchen while my friend handed him the bag, along with the spare keys to his sister's flat. He assumed things would blow over a few days or weeks later, but a line had been crossed. Instead of asking how I would cope on my own I wondered how I'd coped with him for so long.

He's still in my life though. We have children in common and regardless of my successful career, my network of friends and my new relationship he still tries to exploit my vulnerabilities.

These days I can just press the delete button on his emails but the reality is that emotional abuse is a very easy situation to get into and a very difficult one to break free of. Leaving with children is never simple, and neither is staying strong when he continues to use your children as fuel for his vitriol.

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Rainbow · 02/06/2016 01:23

My ex was arrested 10 years ago for DV. He grabbed me hit my head against the the worktop, against the wall. He wrapped my own arms around my neck to strangle me. It was the first time he had got physically abusive. I was totally convinced he would carry out his threats "if I can't have my kids nobody will have them. I kill them first" along with threats to kill me, burn the house down, hurt my parents etc. I was convinced I was a bad parent and wouldn't be able to cope without him so I had stayed. That night, my arms around my neck, my 2 year old son gave my a broken chair leg and told me "hit daddy!". I don't really know what happened next but I found myself on the phone to the police. The PC from the DV unit was fantastic took pics, told me what to do and how to do it including getting a prohibited steps order and an anti molestation order. So many people say, I would have left... I wouldn't have put up with that! To read posts like these make me realise I'm not alone and I was stupid to stay as long as I did.

Rainbow · 02/06/2016 01:24

dionethediabolist it's not sick. Physical violence gives you a reason for the pain your feeling x

DioneTheDiabolist · 02/06/2016 02:07

Rainbow Thanks. Chocolate to your DS.

BungoWomble · 02/06/2016 07:58

Rainbow you're not stupid, you were in a trap. A bloody great big hole that went right over your head. Somehow you managed to climb out. That took guts and determination against the odds. Congratulations.

FV45 · 02/06/2016 08:09

Dione I feel ashamed to have had the same thoughts.

Once people know there is no physical violence there is almost a sigh of relief and a sense of "oh that's not too bad then".

A black eye...and they'd take him away pretty sharpish, instead of this crushing life of emotional abuse. I'm getting out but it's nearly finished me off and I'm fucking sick of being strong.

flippinada · 02/06/2016 09:59

This is my ex. Currently he's being ok but I'm always worrying about and waiting for the next 'thing' he'll do. He's married now (we weren't) with a second family and I'm thankful every day because it means in not the main focus for his spite and malice.

He was never violent, but he didn't need to be.

flippinada · 02/06/2016 09:59

*I'm not

notabee · 02/06/2016 11:51

It was years and years ago I left my ex h. The bruises are long gone but the emotional stuff is taking months of counselling to lose. It's still not gone. I foolishly allowed him to still see the children (after a break and he seemed more 'together') and it came out last year that he'd still been hurting 1 of them. The guilt was hugely consuming, hence the counselling started. My child is refusing counselling but luckily does talk to me.
My only real advice is to cut contact when you have the chance. Call the police, get an injunction, move away and even change your names if you have to.
I thought I'd protected my dc as I'd left my ex h but I was wrong. Leaving was right but I allowed him to remain in our lives. That was a huge mistake and one I need to live with.

BellaDona · 02/06/2016 14:17

One of my main concerns when leaving exH was to protect my child, and not let him be used as a pawn to get at me.

For this reason, I reported every single abusive email, I filed a residency and contact application in court, and fully supported criminal prosecution.
I only allowed supervised contact, skype contact and cut contact if I could see it was abusive towards DS.
I had to be very tough, not reply to most emails, other than in the most basic manner, impose contact rules and be very strict with them. It wasn't natural but it was necessary and it all worked out in minimising stress for us and the chances for abuse.
DS is older now and he has chosen to stop contact altogether, because contact is still more stressful for him than a pleasure. His father now seems to have either given up on something he was never fully committed to, and I'm still not sure why he pursued it, if not to show his family that he did care.

angryangryyoungwoman · 02/06/2016 15:08

This is a sad, useful thread. Thanks to all for sharing and describing so well how emotional abuse is so damaging and so difficult to explain at the same time

Wendywoo71 · 04/06/2016 13:51

I'm in a situation I need to get out of, husband mental illness and addiction gradually worsened. I get he's sick but the constant manipulation which stems from the addiction, I believe, is unbearable. He uses my eldest daughter like a revenge tool, or to get what he wants. I could be taking her out and he'll suddenly decide she's spending time with him, then he'll ask for money. What do you do? Create a scene and upset her. I left him and moved in with my mum in law, with kids. He ended up under same roof after financial issues. I'm trying to get financially more stable to move on. We're all in a predicament. My eldest seems to be piggy in the middle it breaks my heart. He's so volatile. He will lose his job soon. He keeps having time off (2 suicide attempts last year). I feel like it's endless. I feel like I'm weak for putting up with it for so long. But I know what's best now. I'm working in moving me and kids out. He won't make it easy though he's relentless. I can wake up to 60 text messages (we're not in same room). The fear of what he will be like when I announce I'm going scares me. But I will find the strength for my kids. They deserve peace. I hope his mum gets the strength too. I believe I'll never be free of him. That is scary too.

melza2015 · 04/08/2016 13:29

women's aid are trying to tell or make courts more aware of the continuous abuse women suffer by their ex's dragging the mothers to court etc and them managing to get away with still abusing the mothers. It isn't fair or democratic! I think they are trying to make pre-historic courts realise the affects of domestic abuse and violence on the mothers and definitely of course the children as the kids live with us and they really do see it all and hear it all even if you think they don't!!
I sadly do not trust the courts to fairly handle things with my situation. Like most sensible women here just get away as far as you can!! and never make contact move to Scotland if need be! i moved and i hope i never ever meet him ever again!! As he is a bad influence on my children and he would not be any kind of benefit to my kids, he was violent to me and he didn't care if they screamed or cried or saw what was happening in the same house, he'd carry on and showed no remorse!! Makes me so angry how courts and authorities still do sod all for mums!!! just help us all someone!!

melza2015 · 04/08/2016 13:36

Try a woman's REFUGE to get away from him if you have no money or no where to go!!

melza2015 · 04/08/2016 13:59

abusive men all need brain retraining or something as they are nice to most people just not wife's or girlfriends. sad sad world!!

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