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Guest post: Things that are not the same as losing a child

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MumsnetGuestPosts · 05/11/2015 14:07

I am not a writer. I am not a journalist. I don't even have a blog.

I don't have a platform. I don't have a fan-base of loyal followers ready to protect me from the trolls, real or imagined.

The only place I have written since I gave up my Open University degree is on various internet forums. All parenting; some more specialist than others.

I am that scary thing, that alien thing: I am a bereaved parent. And often it's just easier to use the internet to write about the loss of my beloved child than it is to speak out in the Real World. There are rules there. Rules about how I can behave.

On the internet, though, I get to say 'beloved child'. I can even get away with 'angel' or 'precious daughter' if I want. I can be sad. I can be emotional. I can reminisce and use mawkish language. These things are all allowed, even expected.

But one thing I can't do: I can't complain if someone compares their loss, their sadness, to mine. If I do that, I am no longer a figure to be pitied; I become a troll. A vicious, bitter troll, spitting out bile.

Please don't think I am the sort of person who doesn't care about the troubles of others. I do. I really do. I will listen and commiserate, and I will genuinely give a toss if someone is struggling with one of life's many challenges. But surely I get to draw the line when someone makes a comparison so insulting, so inappropriate, that it makes me think "oh no they didn't...". They did and they do - frequently. When that happens I don't need to be a troll, and no bile needs to be spat or any other body fluids spilled. I just need to raise my head above the parapet and say "No. That is not ok.".

Every September I sit on my hands as the Facebook statuses proclaim the grief of mums seeing their children off to university. "It's like they've died!" they say, and below this anguished cry a hundred comments agree and sympathise. "I am sat here in tears. My baby has gone to big school today. It's like a bereavement. I don't know what to do with myself" - followed by several of those particularly annoying emoticons with squirting eyes. "Oh hun I know! Xoxoxox." "Stay strong babe, sending hugs x."

These people are feeling something, but they sure as hell are not feeling the grief of a bereaved parent. Nor is the journalist who is mourning the loss of her children's early years. Because the children of those Facebook mums and the children of that journalist are NOT dead. And if your child is not dead you do not know what it is like to grieve for them.

You are allowed to be sad when your children grow up. You can spend time in quiet reflection. You can go up to their bedroom and feel wistful for days past. But do you really think you are allowed to compare your carefully crafted wistfulness to the pain of the mother or father who will never see their child again? You, who will be driving up at the end of term to pick up your son, or popping out at 3.15pm to meet your daughter at the school gates?

My daughter is not at university or sitting in a classroom. She is a small mound of ash in a pretty pink urn sitting in an alcove in my dining room. An alcove specially built by startled builders who asked me, "do you want to do something with this space, love?" when they were finishing off our kitchen extension. Imagine their surprise when I said "yes!" and rushed off to fetch my daughter's remains, so they could measure her up a second time for a snug wooden box. Because she is actually dead. The sort of dead that means that she is gone forever. Her little life came to an end on 27 April 2006. She was 14 years old.

I know what it's like to look at baby photos and feel that pang. How we miss their chubby cheeks and toddler tantrums; their funny little ways and mispronounced words. The difference for me, and for other bereaved parents, is that we don't have any new memories to add to the old. Those Facebook mums and that journalist will hopefully be able to fill their albums, memory cards or iClouds with hundreds of photos of their children. They can share the blurry, printed snaps at family gatherings and even get to laugh with their grandchildren about how silly daddy was when he was little.

I have some lovely memories of my beautiful girl, but even 10 years later those memories are obscured by a wall of horrific flashbacks. I can't seem to get through them, back to a time when my life was ridiculously perfect. So perfect that I might well have been stupid and smug enough to say something like "it's just like losing a child!".

Instead of a head full of pictures of that beautiful, lithe girl with masses of the thickest hair and the biggest blue eyes you've ever seen, I am trying to keep at bay the horrors of her last months; the memory of waiting till she had died so I could hold her one last time without causing her pain.

I am proud of her dignity and bravery, and awed by the extraordinary way she faced her own death.

I just wish she were still here. I wish that I was not a member of that troublesome, quibbling group who dares to say "No! That is not ok". The club that no one wants to belong to, but strangely so many people want to borrow from.

No. That is not ok.

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FeadHucked · 05/11/2015 19:34

It's not ok.

Flowers

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LyndaNotLinda · 05/11/2015 19:36

MrsDV - beautiful post. I'm so sorry you had to write it though - you never should have had to.

I also agree with those people who said you should write more - you write beautifully and compassionately.

I think there's a columnist position going at the Guardian ...

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ScrambledSmegs · 05/11/2015 19:36

No, it's not ok.

I cannot imagine how wounding it must be to read or hear something like that, to have one of the most awful heart-rending moments of your life reduced to a flippant metaphor. But I have enough empathy to know that it's never right Thanks

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JacobFryesTopHatLackey · 05/11/2015 19:37

So elonquently written. Thinking of Billie, Ailidh and all the MNers without their beautiful children.

And I'm utterly aghast that you've been hurt so publically and unfairly by a badly written article.

Flowers and all my love to you.

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magimedi · 05/11/2015 19:37

It is not OK at all.

You write beautifully, MrsdeV - you are an amazing woman.

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Alibabsandthe40Musketeers · 05/11/2015 19:40

Flowers for you and all the other bereaved parents who post here x

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coffeeisnectar · 05/11/2015 19:46

I remember you from netmums, talking about Billie and your words then were as poignant as they are here.

Nothing will ever compare to the grief of losing a child. I've been to the funerals of two children and the pain on the faces of the parents, so raw, so palpable is just dreadful.

How anyone can compare a child going to school or uni to the death of their child is abhorrent and an insult to those genuinely grieving.

My heart goes out to you. Fly high beautiful Billie, watch over your mum, she misses you x

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derxa · 05/11/2015 19:48
Flowers
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KitNCaboodle · 05/11/2015 19:52

My sister told me her dog dying was worse than our baby being born sleeping, as the dog was part of their family.

It's not ok.
Thank you for writing so beautifully. Sending you love. Flowers

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memyselfandaye · 05/11/2015 19:56

I don't know how an adult, and a parent at that, could ever begin to compare the death of a child to that of one growing up.

I couldn't begin to imagine the torture those parents go through.

I have one child, one beautiful little chap and I won't be having anymore, if anything happened to him I genuinely think I wouldn't want to carry on.

I read that article and just thought how fucking insensitive it was, and frankly it was something you would expect from the idiots at the Daily Mail rather than the Guardian.

Wonderfully, emotive and well written post MrsD

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CocktailQueen · 05/11/2015 20:12

Flowers

MrsDV - wonderful eloquent post.

You are a much, much better writer than Liz Fraser. Perhaps the Granuiad should offer you a job instead.

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BastardGoDarkly · 05/11/2015 20:21
Flowers
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FattyNinjaOwl · 05/11/2015 20:23

Flowers
Such a beautiful girl.

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bialystockandbloom · 05/11/2015 20:23

Much much love to you mrsdv and all of the other bereaved parents here and elsewhere Flowers

It must be like a further twisting of the knife to have to feel that to spare the feelings of others, out of decency for not wanting to make them feel bad, you have to keep quiet about the worst thing that could ever happen, which has happened to you. That if you stand and scream about your dreadful unthinkable pain it might, what, make others feel uncomfortable. Like its a taboo subject.

Let alone the shocking fuckwittery of that Guardian journalist. Good for you for speaking up and saying this - it is not ok that you and others are expected to let offensive thoughtless tripe like that pass without comment and just suck it up.

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Samiam123 · 05/11/2015 20:35

Mrs D, you absolutely are a writer, much more so than that pathetic excuse for a journalist! I've just unsubscribed from the Guardian as a result of that pseudo-article. Although I do feel sorry for her that she can't enjoy her children growing up (and doesn't even seem to have liked them much when they were little). Personally I've so far always found that each stage of my children's development has been even better than the previous one. Sure, they were lovely babies, toddlers and young children, but they're becoming better and better pals / companions. When they go off to uni or elsewhere, I hope that they'll keep coming home regularly - but if not, then I'll only blame myself.

Mrs D, your daughter was beautiful and my heart breaks for you. DLTBGYD!

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TimonAndPumbaa · 05/11/2015 20:36

MrsDeVere, whenever you write about Billie you never fail to move me completely, you are such a beautiful, vivid and eloquent writer and I'm so sorry that you and your family had to go through this. I just can't understand how people can compare their children going to uni as bereavement, it beggars belief. FlowersFlowers

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Butteredparsnips · 05/11/2015 20:38

Beautifully written. Flowers with passion and honesty

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wickedwaterwitch · 05/11/2015 21:00

I'm so sorry for yor loss. Brilliant post.

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Castrovalva · 05/11/2015 21:00
Flowers
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Samiam123 · 05/11/2015 21:00

Just looked up the author of the article on Twitter as had never heard of her before. "Best-selling author, columnist, broadcaster, radio show host, podcaster, stand-up." Really? I'll bet anything she'll be totally forgotten by next Thursday...

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Melawen · 05/11/2015 21:04

It is most certainly not ok.

What a beautifully written piece - the Grauniad is not worthy. (P.S. You made me cry)

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purplepandas · 05/11/2015 21:04

Another bereaved parent who agrees wholeheartedly. Those Facebook posts may me angry too, people cannot understand unless they have walked in our shoes. It is not okay to make these comparisons. Thanks for speaking up.

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BabyGanoush · 05/11/2015 21:04

Thank you for writing this

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PontyGirl · 05/11/2015 21:11

So beautifully written, incredibly moving.

I am so sorry you've even had to write it though.

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