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Guest post: Antimicrobial stewardship: "We must act now to protect future generations"

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MumsnetGuestPosts · 25/08/2015 16:45

Consider this scenario. Your child has been awake all night, crying with earache. They're upset and tired, and so are you. You had a flu bug last week, and took some of the antibiotics left over from when your husband had a sore throat a couple of months ago. You'll take the little one to the doctor in the morning and get antibiotics to clear it up. You'll probably have to pester the GP for them, but you'll do it so your child feels better quickly and you don't all have another sleepless night.

In the morning, while you're rushing to the surgery, your dad calls. Your mum's in hospital having a hip replacement, but she's picked up an infection and the antibiotics they're using to treat it aren't working. The doctors will need to try a different antibiotic.

It's probably not immediately apparent to you, but insisting on antibiotics for your child and taking a relative or friend's leftover antibiotics may have an indirect impact on patients such as your mum.

Last week, NICE released their guidelines on antimicrobial stewardship, but what will they mean for parents of children suffering from common infections?

As recently as the 1930s, people often died from infections such as pneumonia or meningitis. Routine operations were high-risk due to the chance of wound infections. Antibiotics, hailed as wonder drugs, changed that and treating and preventing infections became part of modern medical practice. But the bacteria began to fight back, becoming resistant to antibiotics – and our widespread use of antibiotics is partly to blame.

Many of us take antibiotics that we don't need. Antibiotics don't work for colds and flu, they aren't required for most coughs or sore throats, but still we ask for them. And once we have them, we don't always take them in the way we should: missing doses, not finishing the course, and saving them for future use. The idea that this might mean antibiotics won't work in future may sound alarmist, but it's a very real possibility. If we continue as we are doing, common infections will become untreatable and preventing infections during routine healthcare such as setting broken bones, caesarean sections and chemotherapy will not be possible. It's happening already in some parts of the world. But if we look after antibiotics now, and make sure we only use them when we really need to, then they will continue to work.

It needs to be known that antibiotics do not work for most coughs, sore throats and earaches. These are usually self-limiting infections, so the body can fight them itself. Simple self-care measures such as taking some rest, drinking plenty of fluids and regular paracetamol or ibuprofen for a few days will help you or your child feel better. Your local community pharmacist will be able to advise you on when you should see a doctor, as well as symptom relief.

We have grown used to a consumer society in which the customer is always right – but don't expect your GP to prescribe antibiotics when they aren't needed. You may feel desperate to make your child feel well again, but antibiotics aren't necessarily the answer. Antibiotics commonly have side effects such as tummy upsets and have been shown to only reduce the length of time you have symptoms by one day at the most. The inappropriate use of antibiotics may also allow the bacteria to become resistant, causing future problems both for the individual and the wider population.

In some cases, antibiotics will be required. So if your doctor does prescribe an antibiotic for you or your child, always take them as directed – the right amount, at the right time, for the right duration. Never save them for future use or share them with others and return any unused antibiotics to your local community pharmacy for disposal.

Healthcare providers and healthcare staff need to change their practices to preserve our antibiotics but patients and the public also have an important role to play. When your child is crying with earache, your partner is complaining of a sore throat or you're lying in bed with flu, your actions could have a huge potential cost for future generations. By not reaching for antibiotics every time, you're helping safeguard these wonder drugs for your children and their children.

OP posts:
itsbetterthanabox · 26/08/2015 17:00

Fantasyland painkillers are different because they cause addiction.
Actually testing to see if someone needs antibiotics will not mean those who do need them don't get them.

TelephoneIgnoringMachine · 26/08/2015 18:34

CoteDAzur - I'm not trying to guilt trip anyone about eating meat - why would you assume that? My point was about factory farming & the methods used to increase production.

CoteDAzur · 26/08/2015 20:57

Why would I assume that? Possibly because you said this:

TelephoneIgnoringMachine Tue 25-Aug-15 20:12:33
We'd all probably be an awful lot healthier, for a variety of reasons, if we ate less meat as a nation.

nephrofox · 26/08/2015 21:18

I worked in the development of new anti bacterial (non antibiotic) treatment for several years. They basically all fail due to lack of investment. The crux of the matter is antibiotic resistance IS a genuine issue, but antibiotics are cheap. Money talks.

itsbetterthanabox · 26/08/2015 21:40

Cote how is they guilt tripping?

Atenco · 27/08/2015 17:40

I used to chop and change doctors looking for one who would take me seriously when I said that I didn't want us to be prescribed antibiotics unless they were essential. Despite this my dd ended up age 7 with a depleted immune system because of all the antibiotics the bloody doctor prescribed and yet time and again the doctors blame us the patients for demanding them. As someone said above, just because some fool demands a certain treatment, that does not mean the doctor has to give it to them.

StitchingMoss · 29/08/2015 14:50

Atenco, I don't understand - you don't have to give your daughter the ABs even if they've been prescribed? I've just refused the prescription, no harm done.

Regularhiding · 29/08/2015 16:58

attenco what's your evidence that your daughter's immune system was ruined by antibiotics ?

Atenco · 29/08/2015 18:18

First of all I always noted that after antibiotic treatment she would get sick with the next thing going around. Then, when she was seven she just picked up every illness going around her school all winter long. The bloody doctor never once worried about this and would just automatically write yet another prescription for antibiotics. I finally took her to a friend of the family who was a highly trained acupuncturist and he gave me some Chinese herbs to give to her (I know what mumsnet thinks of Chinese herbs by the way, but he is an excellent doctor and this was years ago) and she didn't get sick for another two years. The next time she did get sick, the GP again prescribed antibiotics but this time I didn't get the prescription filled and she was well again in the same time it would have taken the antibiotics to work.

We haven't given up on antibiotics, they are/were life savers, but nowadays we only take them in extreme circumstances.

StitchingMoss · 01/09/2015 10:34

So you could just have refused the ABs? We can't blame GPs if we as patients don't take responsibility equally.

Neither of my DC have ever taken ABs and have recovered from various childhood ailments just as quickly as their peers. My plea to friends to do the same as always fallen on deaf ears.

CoteDAzur · 03/09/2015 21:41

" a friend of the family who was a highly trained acupuncturist and he gave me some Chinese herbs"

Say no more.

Atenco · 04/09/2015 00:22

So you could just have refused the ABs

Interesting idea, though I am not trained in medicine and took my dd to the doctor as the supposed expert, whose expert opinion was that I give her antibiotics, really? I am now a grandmother with a lot more experience under my belt, but at the time I was an inexperienced mother of a small child.

Atenco · 04/09/2015 00:26

As for cotedazur, you would have just kept on with the same treatment wouldn't you, without looking elsewhere. Acupuncture happens to excellent treatment for a lot of conditions and, as for Chinese herbs, I what is the contraversy about Chinese herbs? That was the one and only time I have ever used them and they did the trick.

CoteDAzur · 04/09/2015 00:47

Well, since you asked, I wouldn't have taken my child to the doctor for every virus she catches like you apparently did. When I do take her, yes I would follow the prescribed medicine which is very VERY rarely an antibiotic.

What I would NOT do is take my child to some quack who "specialises" in sticking needles in people in search of non-existant "energy meridians" or feed her "herbs" sold by the said quack.

To each their own, and I would rather put my faith into evidence-based medicine backed by scientific studies. You might feel differently.

Atenco · 04/09/2015 14:24

I wouldn't have taken my child to the doctor for every virus she catches like you apparently did

I would rather put my faith into evidence-based medicine backed by scientific studies

Do you not see the contradiction in what you are saying? You first criticise me for relying on doctors too much (not diagnosing my child, distinguishing a virus from a bacterial infection, beforehand) and then tell me I should rely on doctors.

A young mother, who has had no previous interest or particular guidance in medicine or nursing, takes their child to the doctor precisely because they cannot diagnose and prescribe treatment. It is not the patient's fault what the doctor prescribes.

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