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Guest post: 'Why we need compulsory sex and relationships education'

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MumsnetGuestPosts · 25/09/2014 18:21

Three years ago, Rape Crisis South London was contacted by a form tutor at a local school. She told us that a 13-year-old girl at her school had been sexually assaulted on a school bus by one of the boys in the year above her. A worrying culture of blame had spread - the girl was being called a slag and a liar, she had stopped coming to school and none of the teachers knew what to do.

This incident was the start of Rape Crisis' work preventing sexual abuse in schools across south London. and since then, we have heard some heart-breaking stories from teachers and students. This includes the girl who disclosed, after a session on ‘sexting’, how she was being blackmailed by an older man into sending increasingly sexual explicit pictures of herself. He was threatening to send them to her parents unless she escalated what she was doing in the pictures. She was terrified, but didn't know how to get out of it. In another session, a group of 14-year-old boys said that they had sex with ‘wrong un's’ – girls they think are unattractive – to gain points with the boys, making sure they got a picture to prove it happened. Even a primary school told us how two seven-year-old boys had digitally penetrated a young girl in one of the toilets. Pornography repeatedly comes up as an issue, with boys saying they feel public pressure to use and like it, but privately feel really uncomfortable with the sexism and racism they see threaded through it.

Sadly, these are not isolated incidents. For many girls and young women, abuse and harassment by boyfriends, friends, male family members and men on the street are part of their daily experience. Thousands of young people have shared their experiences of harassment and assault on the Everyday Sexism Project website, including many who experience ‘groping’ and harassment on a regular basis at school or on their way to school. A 2010 YouGov survey for the End Violence Against Women Coalition revealed that almost one in three 16-18 year old girls have experienced unwanted sexual touching at school, and that sexual name calling such as ‘slut’ or ‘slag’ is routine. More recently, a Freedom of Information Request made by the Independent revealed that nearly 3,000 alleged sexual offences in schools, including 320 rapes, were recorded by police between 2011 and 2013. Over half were committed by other children.

Ongoing scandals like the recent revelations in Rotherham reveal a desperate need to address attitudes towards women and girls, and the normalisation of abuse. We must alter the culture in which young people are bombarded with messages that women are sex objects and men are sexual aggressors, from ‘Blurred Lines’ to online pornography to Page 3. This is the context in which 85,000 women are raped in England and Wales every year and 400,000 sexually assaulted.

Three years on from that first call from a school seeking help, Rape Crisis South London now deliver a six week programme to schools across the area on sexual violence, consent and respect, pornography, gender stereotyping and the age-old sexual double standard, where boys are applauded for being sexual whereas girls are ridiculed. We know that this needs to be part of a ‘whole school approach’ to tackling all forms of violence against women and girls, too, so we also train teachers to give them support in their difficult work - as well as holding parent workshops where we talk to parents about the particularly gendered pressures around sex and sexual performance that face young women and men today.

Whilst these workshops are a huge success, both teachers and children tell us that doing this work after someone has been hurt is too late; that society's squeamishness around talking to young people about sex, and challenging sexist attitudes and behaviours, is having devastating consequences.

The absence of compulsory sex and relationships education that tackles sexual consent, gender stereotyping and the harms of pornography is letting young people down. That’s why the Everyday Sexism Project and the End Violence Against Women Coalition - supported by Mumsnet, Yvette Cooper MP, Jo Swinson MP, Caroline Lucas MP, and many others - have launched a campaign calling on David Cameron, Ed Miliband, Nick Clegg and all party leaders to commit to making sex and relationships compulsory as part of PSHE. This must include ongoing training for teachers, and support for children who disclose that they are being abused or worry that their own behaviour may be abusive.

A couple of years ago, a Mumsnet survey showed that 92% of members think Sex and Relationships Education should be a compulsory subject in secondary schools. Mumsnetters know that this is too important to leave to chance. Let's tell David Cameron and co, too.

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PacificDogwood · 29/09/2014 14:59

There is good evidence out there that what leads young people to have sex very early is not just (or even primarily) what they do and do not know about sex/contraception/abortion but self-esteem, self-worth, having meaning in their lives and having experienced unconditional love by a primary care giver.
This is why relationship education is so important - yes, to teach kids about the biology of it all, but much more importantly to teach them about consideration to others, respect of themselves and others and that they have the right to say NO to anything at all that makes them feel uncomfortable.

With respect, vdb, I think any parent who has thought about how they want to raise their children as much as you have, whether that includes faith or not, is also very likely to have taught their children much of the above.
Sadly, many many children have little or NO experience of this. And seek 'love' by having damaging, early sexual experiences.

The Netherlands is not some kind of enlightened utopia wrt to SRE, but there is little point in arguing with lower teen pregnancy rates etc IMO.

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BuffyBotRebooted · 29/09/2014 15:02

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vdbfamily · 29/09/2014 18:12

Buffy...we are both teaching our children that sex is for consenting ADULTS and I would not presume to expect non Christian adults to follow Christian teaching on sex. What constantly shocks me is the amount of parents who assume/accept that their children will be sexually active before adulthood and so have the 'are you being safe' conversations but not the 'this is not right for you at this age' conversations. I think that secondary education in these areas have to be really careful not to actually increase the pressure on kids to try it out. The language is important and I think is often wrong.

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WhatWouldFreddieDo · 29/09/2014 18:33

I agree broadly with what Petula and Buffy have said, but would just add the observation, please please don't rely on your children sticking to your religious ideals as they go through the teenage years. So perhaps best to arm them with all the information they might need.

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vdbfamily · 29/09/2014 19:28

Yonic screwdriver
Abortion stats for 2013
under 16 2538
16/17 9141
18/19 17332
Numbers that are not first abortions
under 18 7%
18-19 18%
20-24 34%
If you happen to be pro life, every one of these abortions is a sadness and when you speak to people or even read on MN the post abortion heartbreak that many women experience without often being offered any counselling or alternatives it is shocking.
However....this is a digression from the thread but my comment on multiple abortions was challenged.

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PacificDogwood · 29/09/2014 19:32

But the number of multiple terminations actually rises with age? It's not particularly teenagers who have multiple terminations.

All things being equal I'd rather only see children born to people who want them and to have nobody having to deal with the heartbreak of an unwanted pregnancy, but I don't see how the numbers you quoted support being against SRE in schools?

I don't have the numbers handy, but from memory termination rates don't exactly drop in the over-25s, do they?

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PetulaGordino · 29/09/2014 19:34

the age at which the highest number of women had abortions in 2013 was 22yo

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PacificDogwood · 29/09/2014 19:35

Thanks, Petula, I stand corrected.

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YonicScrewdriver · 29/09/2014 19:40

I had the impression, vdb, that you were against SRE before the age of consent. So it's not clear why you are quoting numbers relating to 20-24 year olds?

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YonicScrewdriver · 29/09/2014 19:42

Pacific/Petula, I think that might be the highest single age point but by age range it might be different.

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PetulaGordino · 29/09/2014 19:42

sorry, i wasn't trying to correct you - i was confirming that terminations are not highest amongst teenagers

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PetulaGordino · 29/09/2014 19:44

fair point yonic - will look further

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PetulaGordino · 29/09/2014 19:49

53% of women who had abortions in 2013 had had a previous pregnancy to term

approx. 5 times were in their 20s when they had abortions compared to those who were teenagers

rate of abortion among under-18s is going down

rate of abortion among over-25s is going up

here

i think we have gone way off topic here though

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PacificDogwood · 29/09/2014 19:53

Oh, I did not feel corrected in a bad way Grin

Just agree with that underage/teen pregnancy is not as common as in other age-groups.
And frankly, if anything is likely to bring down unwanted teen pregnancies, I am all for it and empowering girls is a huge part of that.
And that includes giving them the tools to say 'no' if that is what they want - 'no' for whatever reason.

I agree that relying on religious conviction as a deterrent of early sex is not always reliable if it does not come from the young person themselves.
I have huge reservations regarding the 'chastity' movement amongst some of fundamentalist christians in the US tbh.

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TeWiSavesTheDay · 29/09/2014 19:58

There are some horrifying stories from both men and women who have grown up under the chastity movement, particularly those whose parents followed an extremely patriarchal structure. Some men use it as cover to sexually abuse their children.
There are some good websites out there for anyone interested in how NOT to mix religion and relationship education. Recovering Grace for example.

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Scarletohello · 29/09/2014 19:58

Personally I don't think it's a good idea to compare your own teenage years with the situation now. The influences and pressures on young people are massively different now. If your child has a computer or smart phone they are only a few clicks away from seeing images of women being violated in the most hideous ways. If they don't have real information they will come to believe that this is normal and acceptable. This isn't the time to stick your head in the sands. Young people HAVE TO be taught in frank and explicit terms what is and isn't acceptable and normal and pleasurable sexually. We will create a society of fucked up men and abused women if we don't. IMO

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PetulaGordino · 29/09/2014 20:01

i too have reservations about the chastity movement

absolutely fine to instil the value that it is totally fine and normal not to want to have sex for whatever reason and that should not be compromised

but that should go alongside the value that if you do want to have sex, and everyone involved is fully consenting and the risks have been minimised and everyone understands the implications of what's happening to each other (physical, emotional etc), go ahead, it's great and absolutely not something to feel guilty about

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vdbfamily · 29/09/2014 20:09

sorry to derail thread.I wasn't trying to prove that abortion is more prevalent in teenagers or even increasing (I think the morning after pill will have reduced numbers somewhat) just that early and promiscuous sexual activity will affect our kids as they are older and wanting to start families.

Just to clarify I am not against SRE but support a parents choice to withdraw their child and would prefer it was taught with the presumption being that sexual intercourse is for consenting adults, not just for when you fell ready and willing!
However, a previous comment about how sexual abusers may withdraw their kids is causing me to now wonder how to reconcile my right to teach my child as I see fit and an abused childs right to be protected. Having said that,the lessons our kids have had about appropriate touching and body parts being private etc have not been part of the sex ed programme that parents are invited to preview. All the kids have those lessons.And that is right and proper.

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MyEmpireOfDirt · 29/09/2014 20:21

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TeWiSavesTheDay · 29/09/2014 20:26

I haven't looked in detail at what ny DDs school teaches yet (she is 5) but they have done Pants Are Private, which has been a good spring board for us.

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Bilberry · 29/09/2014 21:10

I get the underlying feeling that people think not having sex before marriage is totally unrealistic. Yes it is very hard but there doesn't seem to be much acceptance that it is a choice people could make and not because they are frigid or a prude just that they think sex is something special to be reserved for marriage. Even keeping oneself for a special long-term couple relationship seems unusual. That is my worry; to teach an attitude that sex is just another way for consenting individuals (who may not even be adults) to spend a fun hour or more makes it harder to make that choice to say a longer term 'no'. Actually, it makes it harder to say no at all! "If it is just fun, perhaps I should.... "

For what it is worth I got a book which gives proper names to body parts and a simple explanation of how babies are made for my dd when they were 6 and 7. I will give them more information as they get older. This is not about lack on knowledge, it is about the approach that is taken when teaching about sex. It is not enforcing chastity but letting be an option. It is also about recognising teenagers don't always know what is best for them and encouraging them to delay sexual experimentation until they are older and a bit more worldly wise.

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TeWiSavesTheDay · 29/09/2014 21:22

The chastity movement isn't about saying no being an option (which is very important and why I agree with the proposed changes in the petition above and compulsory sre) it's about emotionally manipulating preteen girls into making promises they don't understand, which means that if they do have sex for whatever reason (or even if they are raped) they can feel extremely guilty and as though they have failed. Which is not an acceptable way to raise children.
In more extreme Christian circles there is an idea that purity of the heart must be maintained, and any sexual, or loving thought towards the opposite sex is sinful, until you are married, and then you are supposed to magically have a normal sexual relationship. It's extremely psychologically damaging, and this is not something that just happens in other places, there are believers of these courtship practices in the UK.
I've only mentioned some of the issues with extreme Christian teaching here, I am sure there are problems with other groups with similar issues.

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vdbfamily · 29/09/2014 21:28

My daughter is 11. She is fully aware of everything she needs to be at 11. I am not sure why bringing my child up to think that sexual intercourse is for a committed adult relationship makes others think that I will not be telling her about pornography,sexting, teenage sex and all the other conversations I have already had to have with her. On her first day at secondary school she came home and told me they had studied a poem which was littered with the 'f' word and the word 'nigger' which shocked her somewhat. Today she has come home with a book the librarian recommended to her about a girl who finds she has 2 boyfriends at once etc.(for older teenagers it says and it's being given to my 11 year old) Here I am trying to teach her that it is better to make good friends and not feel pressured to pair off and have a boyfriend etc and they are faced with all this pressure and normalising of this behaviour by the books they read. Of course I prepare her for it all.Being a Christian does not mean you switch your brain off but it does make you sad the things you have to tell your child to protect them from other children. I feel even more sad for the children doing the exploiting actually because you realise most of them have had pretty poor role models.

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