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Guest post: 'Sexualised action figures limit girls' play - and their futures'

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MumsnetGuestPosts · 31/07/2014 14:33

A few years ago, my friend Dawn came to me with a request. “You always find the best Girl Power gifts for my daughters. Find me action figures; strong, powerful, age-appropriate action figures.” Much to our surprise, we discovered that they simply didn't exist. Most of female action figures on the market are designed to cater to the male collector community – they are hyper-sexualised in a way that renders them completely inappropriate for the average four-year-old, girl or boy.

And the reason for these ‘curves and bumps and bits’ rendered in cold, hard plastic is simple: historically, superhero comic books have been purchased almost entirely by men. As much as I loved watching Lynda Carter play Wonder Woman on television when I was young, the truth is that an estimated 90% of Wonder Woman’s readership has traditionally been male. She was created for men, and illustrated for men, by men. I imagine the same could be said about almost every female comic book character ever created.

“What’s the problem?” you might ask. If the customer base is largely male, and men like hyper-sexualised female action figures, it makes good business sense. Who cares that the recently revealed female Thor has breasts larger than her head and is missing a few ribs? What does it matter that the new Wonder Woman, who made her appearance this week, is ostensibly saving the world in an S&M bathing suit and Pretty Woman boots?

The problem is that we don't live in a bubble. Already, we can’t escape the dollification of our sex – everywhere we look, Photoshop is erasing real women and replacing them with Barbie-like imitations. But what’s more worrying is that this message – that just ‘yourself’ isn't good enough – is being deliberately pushed by toy manufacturers. Look at transformations of iconic figures like Strawberry Shortcake and Holly Hobbie, as well as the more recent example of Disney’s Brave. Girls and boys are internalising messages about what it means to be a perfect woman – and they aren't real.

We know that portraying women in the media in this way negatively affects how girls perceive themselves, we know that it leads to lower self-esteem and body-image problems, and discourages young women from entering certain professions. So why is the toy industry doing this? They should know that the ‘storyline’ when a girl plays with two dolls dressed as princesses is very different from the one that naturally unfolds when you have two figures dressed like knights. Toymakers need to be attuned to these concerns. They need to understand that if you give a girl a different toy, she'll tell a different story; and that powerful female figures have a place in a boy’s toy box as well.

So, Dawn and I decided that we needed to put a healthy image of women out into the world, for young girls to emulate and identify with as they play. We decided to make our own action figures.

We realised that it’s about more than the breast-to-hip ratio. We asked ourselves, why do male superheroes, like Spiderman, appeal to both a four-year-old boy and 40-old man? Because of his qualities. The focus of our action figures suddenly seemed obvious – it’s not about Superheroes, it's about Superpowers. So, we created IAmElemental.

In addition to a healthier, more realistic shape, the action figures embody a message about character and empowerment. Cheesy as it might sound, every child is already a superhero, with all the superpowers they could ever want or need inside of them already, and we think that young children are far more capable of understanding these ideas than most grown-ups realise. That's why we called our action figures Persistence and Industry and Honesty and Bravery.

Dawn and I grew up in a world where we fervently believed that we were equal to boys, and that we could accomplish any goal we set for ourselves. It was the early days of Gloria Steinem’s Ms. Magazine and the individuality-themed "Free To Be... You And Me" TV special, and we internalised this truth as if it were the most obvious thing in the world. The iconic documentary film series 7 Up opens with the saying: “Give me the child until he is seven, and I will show you the man.” We believe that if you change the way children play when they are young, you can change the way they think when they grow older.

Putting strong, realistic female action figures in a girl’s hands will impact the stories she tells. A girl who envisions herself saving the day when she plays will go out into the world better equipped to emulate the strong women who inspire her – be they a favourite teacher, a prominent world leader, or a historic figure like Joan of Arc, who was the muse for our first series of action figures. Armed and confident in her Superpowers, she just might become a real Superhero herself one day. It’s time for girls to Play With Power.

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nooka · 02/08/2014 05:34

Oh and I agree with the general theme of rubbishness when it comes to cool female action characters. Plus why are the female characters always bit players or in such a minority?

I like the new Batgirl's boots, much more likely wear for a superhero, and her figure too, more athletic than buxom.

www.mtv.com/news/1864359/batgirl-exclusive-dc-comics/

RhubarbRhubarbRhubarb · 02/08/2014 09:35

Regarding Princess Leia the coolest, badass princess Disney had to be pestered to even consider including her as a figure. They weren't going to make her available at all.
Girls are not considered for StarWars play? Wtf Disney?

enormouse · 02/08/2014 15:56

As a geek, I don't really feel these action figures would work. I like the sentiment behind them but they lack back story and an emotional connection and fallibility.

I actually think star wars gets it right with Leia and some of the expanded universe/clone wars characters. Like ahsoka tano. She's a jedi, she kicks ass but she is complicated and fallible too.

Guest post: 'Sexualised action figures limit girls' play - and their futures'
enormouse · 02/08/2014 16:00

I agree with nooka about padme though. She dies of a broken heart ffs.

YourKidsYourRulesHunXxx · 02/08/2014 16:14

Leia hooked up with Han though?

enormouse · 02/08/2014 16:38

Leia led a rebellion, was a strong politician and after return of the Jedi became a jedi in her own right.

I don't really see her as being solely defined by being Hans girlfriend.

NuhUhHoney · 02/08/2014 17:09

Well, that was written pretty unfairly. However, the toys are fantastic. Names a little bit bland but I totally see where you're going with this and would definitely introduce DS to them!

There are tons of strong female characters across the Marvel and DC universes. I think the thing to note is that comic books aren't actually for four-year-olds. Another thing which seems to be skipped over is most of the action figures which are being referred to are actually collectable models... not designed for anything but to sit in a cabinet. Regardless of the gender, they are all hypersexualised... you know, fantasy.

In regards to Thor now being female (which isn't a sex change, Thor is still running about... it's not like he hasn't had replacements before), why didn't you comment on how impractical the breast plate was? Large breasts are a thing (yes ok, the proportions are exaggerated in this concept art) but if she was to be struck, that darn breastplate would kill her! No, the breasts are the issue :(

Moving on the to the adaptation of WW, I think the costume is great - more Xena than awkward gymnast. Instead of talking about the sexual aspects, why not focus on how much of a feminist icon she is or how lithe the actress is? WW was a strong woman both mentally and physically, yet is under-represented to fit into the general standard or actresses. Gina Carrano would have been amazing. Oh well.

In the 90s the X-Men cartoons were amazing, and had a great mix of male and female characters with strong personalities. You can find them all on Netflix. You know, positive stuff, adapted for children.

How about teaching kids the difference between toys and reality too? Barbie did many jobs before women did them in reality, yet she gets so much slate because of her appearance? I'm more concerned about Ken to be honest.

There's a big issue which covers all genders and isn't spoken about. It's the films covering up heroes disabilities for mainstream media. Hawkeye (the arrow guy in the Avengers) wears a hearing aid... why is that left out? Professor X seems to walk a lot in the past three film appearances. There are more things we could be focusing on...

Why is appearance such a big deal? How about teaching our children there is more than aesthetics, if we did... we wouldn't be so concerned with how realistic toys looked.

YourKidsYourRulesHunXxx · 02/08/2014 17:23

enormous, I was talking to nooka. She was saying that Padmé was disappointing because she fell for Anakin, when Leia got with Han Smile

nooka · 02/08/2014 17:46

Um that's not actually what I said though, I just think that after she is a much more dynamic figure before she becomes Anakin's wife. Having said that I've not watched the films for a while and so my recall may be over influenced by the total ridiculousness of dying for no apparent reason 'of a broken heart' when you've just had two children who need protection and a world to fight for. I guess they thought that if Anakin was truly responsible for her death then that would be too much and Darth Vader wouldn't be redeemable later on.

There are some better female characters in the expanded universe, I agree. I don't know enough about comics to comment on that aspect, as my children are more into anime. We are a big gaming family and I tend to be more bothered about what the female characters do than how they look, but there is no doubt that both can be a serious problem.

YourKidsYourRulesHunXxx · 02/08/2014 18:25

Darth Vader killed her in his anger (Palpatine tells him this), and she lost the will to live because of her broken heart. That was my understanding, anyway.

Don't get me wrong, I love Leia too, and I do sort of agree that Padme comes across as weak at times where Anakin is concerned, but when she was in Queen mode then I think that she is just awesome. It was good to see a vulnerable side to her too though, it doesn't really make me like her any less. As a PP said, it is good to see flaws in childrens role models, and I don't think the IAmElemental dolls represent this. Even Superman has his Kryptonite.

ocelot41 · 02/08/2014 18:27

Had a think about this. What I would really like to see is a mixed set of equal numbers of male and female dolls all of whom are different and all of whom have 'cool' superpowers and accessories. I do think the 'Industry', 'Perseverance' thing is overly worthy.

SaskiaRembrandtWasFramed · 02/08/2014 19:48

I had a Bionic Woman action figure, she rocked! She regularly teamed up with my brother's Action Man on world saving missions.

nooka · 02/08/2014 20:29

ButYourKids, really that is utter bullshit isn't it? Darth Vader didn't kill her, she chooses to die in some weird unexplained way. Her children needed her, but she just opts out. I think it was out of character and just not plausible. I agree she was much better as the Queen.

I like flawed characters, I just don't like female characters whose flaws are so stereotyped. But then I think that the prequel trilogy shouldn't have been made, and if it was necessary, that George Lucas shouldn't have been the one to do so!

nooka · 02/08/2014 20:31

I agree with you ocelot. I'd like the male/female thing to be a bit more irrelevant really, except when it actually matters to the plot.

BomChickaMeowMeow · 03/08/2014 06:29

I think what is damaging is girls and boys being told certain toys are for them and other toys aren't.

I don't think it's damaging for girls or boys to play with toys that are traditionally appropriate for their gender, what upsets me is when boys are not allowed to play with dolls or family role-play toys or girls are not allowed to play with action and adventure type toys.

Lego Friends and Barbie don't bother me - marketing it only to girls does.

What is vastly more important though is the example we set as parents - what they play with or are exposed to in the media is neither here nor there compared with the influence we have.

You could expose a girl to all the kick-ass female role models in the world but without being a positive role model as parents it would have very little effect.

ocelot41 · 03/08/2014 07:31

I take your point Born but I do think that gendered toys are also a problem. I posted recently about taking DS to get some action figures (he is totally into them - aged 4) and him concluding on the way home that 'girls don't have adventures' because all of the figures on display were male.

I ended up scouring eBay for Bionic woman, wonder woman, cat woman etc to even up his toybox but as most of the female figures are not the main characters I had a major job finding ones that weren't collectors item prices and weren't stuck on a little stand so could actually DO things! I ended up ordering some from Hong Kong and when they arrived they couldnt even stand on their own two feet (oh the irony).

And it isn't just mums of girls who are bothered about this stuff, it is mums of boys too. In fact the woman who runs the Pink Stinks campaign has two BOYS!

noblegiraffe · 03/08/2014 11:59

I liked Supergirl when I was young, and even made a cape for my Sindy doll so she could fly. I think if you ask kids what superpowers they would like they want to fly, be super fast and superstrong. This is what they want to play. Why can't girl dolls be super heroes? Everyone knows that in Captain Planet the rubbish power was 'Heart'.

I don't quite get the different powers being in different dolls either. So Bravery can't be honest or hardworking? Confused they are all one-dimensional.

GerbilsAteMyCat · 03/08/2014 20:07

www.fisher-price.com/en_US/brands/imaginext/products/63032
Imaginext Catwoman
She is constructed in roughly the same manner as the imaginext men.
Lego figures are all roughly the same size and kids can make their own super heroes from them, though Wildstyle and UniKitty were pretty good female figures in the Lego Movie. Even the Lego friends are pretty asexual.
From what I've seen kids toys largely have unachievable bodies. Kids want something interesting. A figure of a vanilla boy or girl is not exciting. A blue man with 6 arms and spider talents or a girl with a shark fin and eagle wings. Now that's fun.

CasanovaFrankenstein · 03/08/2014 20:23

I like the idea of this... Not sure about the 'worthiness' aspect. But I think having some more realistic looking female action figures is good.

Earlier poster mentioned She-Ra - she had more powers than He-Man, was also a leader in her secret identity and dished out the trademark comic hero witty comebacks. The dolls were 'girly' with rooted hair and some fabric elements to costume, but they were also more realistic in physique than most female action figures from "boys" lines.

MummyMcThrifty · 03/08/2014 22:45

I was wondering about that too, I'm in Scotland, how much is $65 in pounds sterling? How much to ship to the UK?

Purpleflamingos · 04/08/2014 08:34

Agree with others about the names and backstory.

ProbablyJustGas · 04/08/2014 12:20

I really don't think my DSD would play with these, and I don't think I could drum up the enthusiasm for her - where are the interesting stories behind these action figures? So one is honest. So what? Sorry.

The My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic series has been promoting a similar storyline for years - emphasizing qualities like generosity, loyalty, etc, and examining what makes a good friend. Is my DSD still interested in the sexualized Equestria dolls? Yes, unfortunately. But she doesn't get that they're sexualized - I'm the one that sees that. And that doesn't stop her from adoring the original series, where the ponies are just ponies.

WRT the Barbie study you linked to, it doesn't seem to be nearly in-depth enough to draw such sweeping conclusions about one single toy. My DSD is a total Barbie girl, which is strongly encouraged by my DH's family, and yes, my DH and I have had to have a lot of discussion with her to balance out that influence (i.e., tame her obsession with high heels). But that frivolous influence isn't strong because DSD plays with Barbie dolls. The influence is strong because DSD is a people pleaser and some of her more strong-willed, opinionated family members really push the "Pretty" thing - not just with Barbie dolls, but with Barbie DVDs, Barbie clothes, Barbie memorabilia, and most of all, their attitudes. They carry it way further than dolls and go crazy if DSD scuffs her shoes, or doesn't brush her hair, or puts a hole in her leggings, or wears a worn-out, fuzzy-looking winter hat. She gets loads of praise when she wears a pretty dress, and no comment when she wears a t-shirt and jeans. DSD, being desperate to make everyone happy with her, does whatever it takes to win approval.

I loved 90s X-Men (favorite was Rogue, second favorite was Jubilee). But I also played with loads of Barbies, for years. I did not grow up with an obsession with high heels, nor did it ever occur to me to limit my career aspirations based on gender. My family - in particular, the women in my family - were not obsessed with looks. I was not encouraged to wear makeup from the age of 12. I was not put into high heels at the age of six. I was not pushed into wearing dresses when I went through a phase of hating them. And I was not yelled at when I scuffed my shoes.

PurpleSwampHen · 04/08/2014 13:01

The spare rib generation weren't short of heros, neither were the Land Girls or the women of India today and so on. The mass of heroes that have the greatest affect are mothers and fathers who realise that commercial intrusiveness doesn't have as great an influence on their children over their love and guidance in knowing and seeing and showing what heroism means by example, education and play.

BomChickaMeowMeow · 05/08/2014 17:59

I don't like the Pink Stinks agenda. I do like Let Toys Be Toys.

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