Meet the Other Phone. Child-safe in minutes.

Meet the Other Phone.
Child-safe in minutes.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Guest posts

Should we Lose The Lads' Mags?

104 replies

MumsnetGuestBlogs · 10/10/2013 14:37

There’s been a deeply damaging screw-up at the headquarters of the ‘big four’ supermarkets – and it’s been dragging on for years. Tesco, Sainsbury’s, Asda and Morrisons all have a policy of not selling pornographic or 'adult' magazines. And yet day after day, year upon year, these stores have been stocking their shelves with sexist porn mags like Nuts, Zoo, Loaded and Front.

Lawyers have told the retailers that selling them can violate equality legislation. Anti-violence organisations say they fuel attitudes underpinning violence against women. And yet, there they still are, lining the shelves. So just what’s going on when self-declared ‘family retailers’ are willing to breach their own rules and risk legal action in order to sell magazines known to fuel dangerous and misogynistic attitudes towards half the UK’s population?

That’s exactly what UK Feminista and Object tried to find out when we met representatives from one of these retail giants - Tesco - back in July. Tesco insisted they don’t stock magazines classified by the industry as pornographic, that Nuts and Zoo are ‘Men’s Lifestyle’ magazines. Customers writing to them on the issue were told much the same: “Please let me assure you that when selecting our magazine range, we always keep at the front of mind that we are a family retailer and that the product choice needs to be appropriate. We do not stock any publication that we deem would be not suitable to our customers, including any adult titles.”…and… “We do not stock any magazines classified by the industry as pornographic”. Interesting, because when we posted images from the current editions of Nuts and Zoo on Facebook, another corporate giant with a 'no porn' policy, they were removed. The social networking site issued a message stating the images "violated our Community Standards".

Even staunch lads’ mags defender Barry McIheney, CEO of the Professional Publishers Association, admits “these titles certainly contain adult imagery”. Barry should know. Back in the early 2000s, as CEO of EMAP Elan publishers, he was the man responsible for launching Zoo. We also commissioned legal advice on the pornographic nature of Nuts, Zoo, Loaded and Front from Hugh Southey, a leading QC at Matrix Chambers. His judgment: “..the images in the editions of Nuts, Zoo, Loaded and Front are plainly pornographic”. So why, then, are the ‘big four’ still actively choosing to stock the likes of Nuts and Zoo - in direct contravention of their own policies?

Could it be that the supermarkets have been getting some duff advice on magazine classifications from the industry? We contacted publishers and trade bodies to find out. Turns out, the only part of the industry that classifies Nuts and Zoo as ‘Men’s Lifestyle’ rather than ‘adult’ or pornographic are Nuts and Zoo themselves. It is a self-assigned classification. It’s really not hard to fathom why these magazines would describe themselves as ‘Men’s Lifestyle’. What’s harder to understand is why supermarkets would swallow it.

It's even more perplexing when you consider these stores are risking legal action by stocking Nuts and Zoo. Years ago society decided it unacceptable to have 'girlie calendar'- style images on workplace walls because they can create a hostile and degrading environment for women. The ‘big four’ supermarkets would never allow the 'girlie calendar'- style covers of lads' mags on their office walls, so why do they have them on their supermarket shelves? It's a question that's prompted 18 leading lawyers to write to retailers warning them that exposing both staff and customers to lads' mags could constitute sexual harassment or sex discrimination under the Equality Act.

Why does all this matter so much? Because as the Government- commissioned Sexualisation of Young People Review reported in 2010, “lads’ mags promote an idea of male sexuality as based on power and aggression, depicting women as sex objects and including articles that feature strategies for manipulating women.” The American Psychological Association has concluded that viewing media that portrays women as sex objects leads people to become more accepting of sexual harassment, interpersonal violence and rape myths. In essence, lads' mags fuel attitudes underpinning violence against women.

Right now, we have a crisis of violence against women in this country. Rape Crisis report that 85,000 women are raped every single year in England and Wales alone, while one in three girls has been subjected to sexual abuse from a boyfriend. If we're serious about tackling this, we need to join the dots between sexist violence and the cultures and attitudes in daily life that give rise to it. A society in which the biggest 'family' retailers deem it so normal and acceptable to view women as dehumanised sex objects that they choose to line their shelves with magazines dedicated to it is a society in which women and girls can never be safe.

That's why Women's Aid, Imkaan and the End Violence Against Women coalition are among the organisations urging the ‘big four’ supermarkets to stop selling sexist lads’ mags like Nuts and Zoo. They’re joined by 1.3 million member strong trade union, Unison, the Association of Teachers and Lecturers, 18 top lawyers and thousands of customers. Together we're not asking for any new laws or regulations. Tesco, Morrisons, Asda and Sainsbury's already have policies in place (and legal responsibilities) that mean harmful lads' mags like Nuts and Zoo should never have been added to their product order lists in the first place.

So far, only the Co-operative has taken significant action. As a result of lads' mags failing to meet the retailer’s new packaging demands, Nuts, Zoo and Front are no longer sold in the Co-operative's 4000 stores. It's now vital the ‘big four’ listen to the anti-violence organisations, shareholders, customers, lawyers, trade unionists and teachers all urging them to lose the lads' mags.

Do you think the 'big four' supermarket chains should stop selling lads' mags? Tell us what you think here on the thread.

OP posts:
SagaciousOne · 24/10/2013 19:42

I'd really like to address the fallacy of a domestic violence culture perpetrated by men as the inevitable consequence of things such as lads mags.

I'd like to draw peoples attention this article in the Guardian Newspaper which shows Home Office records showing that more than 40% of domestic violence victims are men being assaulted by wives and girlfriends. www.theguardian.com/society/2010/sep/05/men-victims-domestic-violence

Now when you think that's only recorded crime (how many men are likely to report they get slapped around by their wives girlfriends) you realise that in all likelihood men are at least as likely to be victims as women and it is a false point to make out that domestic violence is a male crime perpetrated on females.

Please I urge you to read.

ulyssesjj · 28/10/2013 07:55

Losing Lad's Mags for the sake of limiting exposure to kids is a good idea and should be done as soon as possible. This will not contribute much to resolving the issue of why there is a demand for these publications in the first place and there is no quick fix. A generation or two of better education, parenting and instilling sound values into our children and young adults has no substitute.

TangleCat · 03/08/2018 20:39

I'm sorry this has come so late. And it's heartening to see so many people realising how awful the "chat mags" really are. But now, there is a campaign called "Curb The Chat Mags" which seeks to have these obnoxious chat mags treated as adult content like the lad's mags.

We have several weekly women's chat mags for sale in the UK, including "Chat", "Take a Break", "Pick Me Up", "That's Life" and "Love It". They all publish horrific, nightmare headlines of domestic sexual violence, incest, rape, murders, paedophiles, torture, mutilation and child abuse, trivialising the subjects and turning them into casual entertainment for women. They carry a relentless stream of sexually violent stories, deliberately selected to depict men as evil monsters who prey on helpless women and children. Headlines such as these are very typical for these women’s chat magazines and are extremely corrosive in how our children see the society they live in. They are displayed on the low shelves in newsagents, often right next to the children's comics. They sell millions of copies every year in the UK.

In May 2017, the front page headlines on these weekly publications included subjects such as sex abuse, incest, paedophiles, murders, rapists and dead babies. Previous prominent headlines have been on cannibalism, child killers, brutal rapes and feeding dead bodies to pigs as a means of corpse disposal. I'm sure you agree that these magazines are as bad as the Lad's Mags.

They should be classed as adult material, put in sealed bags and moved to the top shelves of newsagents. There's a website for the campaign at www.CurbTheChatMags.com which has a lot more lurid more details and calls to action.

Subjecting impressionable minds with a constant stream of material like this will inevitably have a detrimental effect on a child's world view. That's what was said about the lad's mags and the same is true, here. These chat magazines are extremely corrosive and they will undoubtedly have an influence on how children grow up to see the world they live in.

Child’s Eye Line UK (www.childseyeline.org) is also campaigning to stop sexualised, sexist and damaging material being displayed at child height in shops and public spaces.

New posts on this thread. Refresh page