Is ds G&T or just a normal toddler?

[geordieminx]

Ok so I feel a bit of tw@t posting this, but as I only have ds I dont really know whats normal.

He is 2.2, and at present:

recognises and can name every make of car Ford SAAB Toyota etc.. not from the badge - just from looking at the side/front

Can count and recognise numbers up to 20

Knows all colours including acknowledging colours such as "greeny blue"

Knows all shapes inc heart/diamond/rectangle etc

Knows all letters of the alphabet, and with a lot of them can say "f for fan" or h for hat or whatever.

Now with the exception of the car thing, that we started to pass time on journeys down south the rest he has seemed to pick up himself?

I'm a SAHM, just me and him during the day - not sure if it makes any difference?

I genuinely think it's odd to want to label children at such a young age - and it appears lots of others on MN agree. My DTs are beautiful, bright, happy little girls, who know an awful lot. My Dad commented the other day that they seem to use a lot of long words (not sure what he was referring to, exacty, unless they'd been discussing Mary Poppins) and I think it's wonderful that they're curious, interested and gleeful about learning new things. However, I don't think that the label "G&T is helpful when we're discussing pre-schoolers. "G&T" is useful when children are at school, so that schools are aware that certain children have specific needs which must be met.
I'm quite sure, though, that in the majority of playgroups and nurseries, any mother (or father) stating that their child is "G&T" would just be met with slightly confused, indulgent smiles.
The OP was wanting to know whether or not her child is doign the same as others his age. And he is.

Sorry, that should have been "G&T"

DAL ~
~ if "G&T " isn't a label then what is it?
~ geordieminx' ds not seeming to be a genius sounds like a statement of fact ~what you based it on I don't know.

I've read your posts about your ds and they are actually quite arrogant.What some posters may or may not have said[about you being far too modest about your ds] is not relevant.The thing with maths is,once you grasp certain maths concepts you can understand nearly all the maths in primary level~not unusual or difficult.Now if your ds had solved a hitherto unsolved maths problem or invented a new theorem then we're talking G&T.

Also ~ don't refer to knickers in a twist in a post or conversation to a woman it sounds arrogant and misogynistic~I'm sure you wouldn't want that.

And keep your winks to yourself.

Advanced for his age but nothing out of the ordinary I would say.

Advanced for his age but nothing out of the ordinary I would say.
You can't say things like that, you'll upset coolpersephone

The thing with maths is,once you grasp certain maths concepts you can understand nearly all the maths in primary level~not unusual or difficult
That's been my point all along i.e. that DS doesn't have some rare gift. At Y2 he can do Y6 work in maths only because he combined an above average ability with a very keen interest obsession with maths.

Now if your ds had solved a hitherto unsolved maths problem or invented a new theorem then we're talking G&T.
Hmm, I think not. If he invented a new theorem he'd be a genius. If he's in the top 10% of ability he's in G&T. His Head and G&T coordinator have no doubt that he should be on the G&T register. To anyone who thinks he's not G&T, I'll say knickers to your opinion!

You seem to have lost the plot somewhat. This thread isn't about me and I suggest we move it on.

that in the majority of playgroups and nurseries, any mother (or father) stating that their child is "G&T" would just be met with slightly confused, indulgent smiles.
I agree. Bar the odd pushy parent, most parents I know with children on the G&T register don't go around telling strangers their child is gifted. To go by comments made in threads here it appears that some aren't even informed when their children are put on the register.

The term "gifted" is contentious and experts have been arguing for decades as to what it means. However, under the G&T program it has a very specific meaning - together with "talented" - and is used to refer to children on the register. The government does that with terms, like they call unemployment benefit "Job Seekers Allowance" and call speed cameras "Safety Cameras". Many schools just refer to "children on the register". Whether they use the term or not is not important in my opinion. What matters is whether they do everything else they need to for these children including providing adequately for them as described under the G&T program and keeping proper records to prove it.

"G&T" is useful when children are at school, so that schools are aware ...
100%

DAL~your posts are about oneupmanship all the time, I feel sorry for your ds having such a competitive dad.
Now "lets move on" ~ code for~ make way for more of DAL's statements and put downs and redirect those of us who have lost his plot.
No point in further comments because it looks like DAL is always right so I'll leave him to it.

OK, my DS is not G&T. Happy?

In your obsession with attacking me you've not made a single post about the OP's DS - that is whom this "plot" is about.

Geordieminx - I have a little one about the same age, so I do think your ds sounds advanced.

I was interested in the op's question.

However in attempting to read this thread I have lost the will to live.

DAL, but that's the nonsense isn't it? The top 10% of a cohort can't automatically be seen as G&T cos it's relative to their cohort. If you are in a very average cohort you're going to be seen as G&T when you really aren't, with all the pressure that label can then bring.

When the G&T register was first introduced it was supposed to be to identify the genuinely G&T. I taught primary for six years (2002-2008) in a good school and probably only encountered two genuinely G&T children.

He sounds like a bright little boy. You can never really tell though until they have been at school for a while and you see what their peers are doing (in my limited experience).

You sounds like you have the patience of a saint if you have been teaching the names of all of those cars though .

OP, your ds does seem advanced for his age. My ds is 2.6 and does everything your ds does (not the car thing, his interest is dinosaurs and planets) and I think he is advanced, as do most people who meet him.
Not wishing to get involved in a bun fight, but from previous experience on here, I would keep quiet about him, for fear of being absolutely slated for thinking your dc is clever.

Having worked with pre-schoolers I would say your ds is doing really well and is 'ahead' of many his age. He will probably go on to read earlier than most his peer group. Whether is will be g&t I have no idea . He seems to have an eye for detail and patterns (which words are basically). My ds is like this still at 6 yo. He is very bright but not g&t and sadly doesn't like reading .

he' sounds pretty smart OP
My ds2 is exactly the same too!
the cars thing, obsessive from a very young age
I know he is smart so I just let him be a boy, there are years ahead in which he can be assessed for cleverness. I just love the happy smart and funny kid he is

op, your dc sounds exactly just like my ds when he was that age, and my ds (now 9) has gone on to be registered g and t (for all its worth)

i say carry on what your doing because its sounds like your doing a great job!

agree about the reading, read at every opportunity!

all this talk of G&T is making me thirsty! I am obviously lurking on the wrong threads!!