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Early developer/gifted/ASD? How best to support

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SoloMumJustMuddlingThrough · 08/12/2025 22:41

I'm not sure how best to support DD (21 months). She has was an early walker & talker with over 100 words by 13 months and now talking in full sentences. I've always thought she is just bright but increasingly has been showing some red flags to suggest something else may be going on. Looking for advice - should I chill and wait it out? Is there anything I should be doing?

She is obsessed with letters and, more recently numbers. She knows the alphabet, has been able to recognise letters for months and has started sounding out simple words eg. Cat, hat, ball etc. She also knows some words from sight such as likes, said etc. She is actively reading from books/signs etc she has not seen before, not simply memorising.

She can count to a hundred, recognise 2 digit numbers eg. She will read 46 - forty six. (For a while she would say the inverse is. 64 but has stopped doing that now.). She knows her odd numbers from her evens, her left from her right etc. Has started learning timetables. I (stupidly) gave her a timetable CD because it had numbers on the cover. She listens to it all the time (😭) and is picking up on some of the songs.

She knows colours, shapes etc. A couple of always ago she pointed to a bit of cardboard on the floor that had been bent and said "look mummy, a trapezium". She is very particular about colours too - it's not blue but turquoise. She has lilac shoes and the bin is "maroon".

I've tried to expand her interests as much as possible. We do toddler football, dancing, music, going swimming together, walks and two or three play dates a week. But honestly she would be more happy, talking to a deck of playing cars, sorting out her number tiles and doing puzzles (she can do a 24 piece puzzle by herself in a couple of mins).

Red flags.
Spinning for a couple of hours a day on a spinning chair.

Arm flapping - mostly when excited.

She repeats the same phrases, does exactly the same thing when playing every time, with no deviation (pick up green sticks and puts them in the milk jug from her tea set. Then "puts some yellow in there" adds the yellow stick. The lines up the pink sticks etc. etc. Everything is always EXACTLY the same. When she lines up number blocks the brown and white ones have to go to one side (they are the "mean ones")

Some sensory issues (complete meltdown when a piece of mud touched her skin)
Lining things up (in a very particular way).

I was chatting with a friend who has a toddler the same age who made a comment that toddlers like to copy parents eg. Pretend to cook, or clean, or play mummy. The closest DD has ever got to that sort of thing is pretending to be a digger or a leaf bower (she was the leaf blower). Zero interest in what I am doing. She wants me to come into her world when we play.

She also has no off switch when it comes to food. She eats everything (apart from egg). People say toddlers stop when they are full...she doesn't!

Acutely aware if right and wrong, good and naughty and talks about it a lot.

Family history of ASD. My brother high functioning autism, same for her half brother.

This is not a braggy post, hence why I've posted in this corner of mumsnet. It's not something I can really talk about on real life. Are the red flags I've identified actually red flags or am I worrying over nothing?

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skybluestars · 09/12/2025 20:35

She sounds exactly my DS at that age. Autism never occurred to me or his nursery, he was just super bright. He was quite social and didn’t show any sensory issues etc so nothing glaringly obvious except for his extreme early language and use of language.

He started to struggle more and more in KS1 with social communication and sensory demands of school and by year 3 he was having violent meltdowns and being excluded from school. It was awful. Endless tests and people telling us it can’t be autism, it’s bad behaviour and he’s so bright he knows what he’s doing, he’s badly behaved etc.

He’s now 15 and has been at an autism specialist school since he was in year 4. It’s been the best thing ever for him as he’s learnt about autism, acceptance and succeeding instead of struggling. He has a highly gifted IQ and is phenomenal at learning but struggles to execute in a meaningful way for ‘exams’. Not sure what the future holds, he has horrendous anxiety etc but it’s been quite the ride. I wish we’d known before he started school as I would have done a lot of things differently.

Muu9 · 10/12/2025 11:05

SoloMumJustMuddlingThrough · 09/12/2025 18:00

@HarryVanderspeigle honestly I feel a bit out of my depth. There's a few subtle signs of ASD, enough for it to be in my radar. But I don't know whether I would be best to follow her interests or try and direct her to other things. What I don't want to do is teach her something differently to how school may teach, or do too much with her so she is bored at school. At the same time I think it's right to follow her interests. So honestly I feel a bit stuck

Oh she's definitely going to be bored at school unless he teacher lets her go at her own pace / work on more advanced/challenging stuff sent by you. The question is whether she will be bored at home and whether she will learn the value of putting in effort to solve problems that challenge her. The latter will fall to you, as just about every primary school is going to be unable or unwilling to do so.

For reading, see if your local library has decodable readers. Progressive phonics is a free phonics curriculum but American. Jolly phonics is UK oriented but might be expensive/overkill. https://www.readingbear.org/ was originally made to be watched by young children (<3 years). Books are often the only salvation for gifted kids stuck in developmentally inappropriate lessons, so being able to read independently is an important coping skill.

For math, numberblocks is very popular, and you can find manipulatives (toys) to play along with, although the unit blocks might pose a choking hazard. You can also check out the book "kitchen table math" - it covers ways to make math fun and young-child-appropriate (e.g. playing with blocks rather than doing worksheets) and the first book goes up to age 8. When she's a little older you could check out Beast Academy - it's the best (only?) elementary math program for gifted kids, but you have to choose between an online program or paying to ship the books from the US.

When she's the right age, see if you can get her in a tumbling, gymnastics, or Judo class to develop gross motor skills.

Reading Bear

Reading Bear is a collection of free, well-made, multimedia phonics presentations. Your child can learn to read with Reading Bear.

https://www.readingbear.org

SoloMumJustMuddlingThrough · 10/12/2025 12:37

@Muu9 thank you. This is very helpful & practical advice. I just bought a membership for Hamilton - lesson plans and resources for reception to year 6 - which has given me some ideas to challenge her while still playing. I will definitely check out your suggestions

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GrannyTeapot · 10/12/2025 13:51

I really recommend building a good relationship with your health visitor. Be led by your DD’s innate curiosity and what grabs her - my youngest is gifted, ASD and a wheelchair user…so physically I went with horse riding, swimming and yoga, maths has always been a huge comfort to her and she loved Numberblocks/Colourblicks etc when young. The maths showed up in her becoming obsessed with music and piano in particular, so I supported that, she became obsessed with New Zealand bless her so I got her toys/books based on that, school came and asked me to support her learning French as she somehow had the understanding of a Year 6 when she was only Year 1…none of these things were pushed towards her we’ve just loved and appreciated her in every way.
Other kids at school completely accept her btw, and her big sisters ask her for answers regularly 😂.

You’ll both be grand, make sure school see her as a blessing not a nuisance though.

Lookingforthejoy · 10/12/2025 14:08

I would say a lot of her amazing achievements are red flags too.

She sounds like an awesome girl!

I would follow her interests. I am probably very bias in my advice because I have a 9 year old with autistic burn out, very common in high achieving autistic women and girls. Be very careful to listen to what she says about how she feels and reacts in different situations. Read up on masking, teaching emotional regulation, interoception and how to recognise emotions in others and how to work out social situations. You sound like an engaged parent so you will be doing that but autistic children often need more support with this and if she isn’t autistic these are all great skills.

Find a school with excellent reputation for autistic girls.

flatfootedfred · 10/12/2025 18:18

SoloMumJustMuddlingThrough · 09/12/2025 15:22

I do hear what you are saying but honestly wouldn't describe her as having severe sensory issues at all.

She does make cups of teas for her toys (not me though! 😉), she plays with her soft toys and creates quite elaborate story lines. She understands facial expressions very well, for example she'll point to pictures and say "the rabbits sad", "he's thinking" etc. she can also make facial expressions on demand. If I say can you show me you happy face we get the biggest open mouth smile. Can you show me your dad face and she will do some Oscar worthy pretend crying. BUT at the same time she also does a lot of repetitive play - I don't know if that is typical or not.

She is happy to get dirty with paint, sand etc. It is just mud she doesn't like. I can count on two hands the number of times she's had a meltdown. She has always been very contented, barely cried as a baby (I was so so lucky!)

I would say she is good with playing with her peers. She says hello, likes to hold hands, happy to share her toys and take turns etc.

She flaps only when she is very excited.

She is okay happy in classes when there is a lot of noise, people etc.

There is autism in my family so I do know what to look fod. Nothing screams ASD to me, but there are a few flags. It seems to be more her preferences rather than needs at the moment.

Honestly my ASD-diagnosed DS was pretty similar, no particularly evident social issues at that age at all - it's definitely a bit more obvious now (he's 10) but it's not absolutely glaringly apparent.

I think the spinning and things sounds like sensory-seeking behaviour - I wouldn't call it "severe" - "pronounced" maybe - and as an aside, I really hate the term 'red flags' - it's just very negative and as others have said the "positive" things like precocious reading ability etc are just as much flags as anything challenging like meltdowns.

Many of my DS's ASD flags are just little features that make him unique, they're neither positive or negative.

AirMaster · 19/02/2026 23:54

Just came across this thread and your DD sounds IDENTICAL to mine at that age. Your red flags are indeed red flags - my daughter had the same (as well as virtually identical interests/skills!).

Mine is now 5.5 and is academically very very ahead. She was diagnosed autistic at 4.5.

My advice:

  1. Start an autism referral now. It will likely take many years and if you no longer suspect ASD you don't have to have the assessment at that point. I asked for an autism referral at her 2 year health visitor check and it took 2.5y. But based on what you said (and I know I'm just an internet random, but I'm also an autism mum and former teacher and autism has been the main focus of my life for the past 4 years!) your daughter is 100% autistic.

  2. The academic side will take care of itself - whether she is just gifted or gifted and autistic, she clearly absorbs knowledge and she will do this whatever you do. Enjoy it! But don't stress about it.

  3. Instead focus on social stuff, emotional regulation, sensory needs (the spinning is a sensory need - mine was like that at that age and her sensory needs have grown more pronounced as she has got older).

Sounds like you are doing a magnificent job and your daughter is a real joy. Feel free to PM me if you want to chat to someone who has been there!

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