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Really worried 4 year old starting Reception.

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mandyemma13 · 03/09/2016 09:49

I am running out of ideas to teach my 4 year old. She can read pretty much anything. She was assessed last year in Nursery reading at an age 10 level. She excels in Maths and can count to over 100, add, subtract and divide. She is currently learning her times tables and how to multiply.
She loves science and understands biology of plants, animals and the human body. She has an app which teaches her the alchemy and chemistry. She knows most of the elements table.

In her nursery school she was getting very upset because the other children kept getting stickers and she wasn't. I asked them why and they had no reason and the next day she came home with 5 stickers. They was giving her books with no words in and after her being assessed they told me they can not go out of the curriculum to suit one child who can read.

I know she isn't a 'normal' child for 4. She plays Minecraft and watches you tube videos. She enjoys reading about dinosaurs and history. She teaches me things that I didn't even know.

Everyone tells me how good she is at speaking. She sounds posh the way she talks.

She is also learning Spanish and Geography. She understands the world map and knows all the capital cities. She goes on Google Earth. Currently she is very interested in China and wants to know why she can't see China on Google earth.

Here are some of the questions she asked me last night:

What is the world temperature in China.
Why do Americans have wooden houses and we have brick.
She wanted to know how the Romans built roads and walls.
She then asked about world food and how it was made. Asking me what people eat in China and New Zealand.
She then asked me about natural disasters and told me about volcanoes, earthquakes, floods and hurricanes.

I was not this bright at 4. I think I knew my colours and how to count to 10.

Anyhoo.. I am very worried about her starting another new school (due to the bidding system). I took her out of her old school as she seemed to be regressing and coming home crying or with an attitude. She kept telling me she hated me. And became a different child. Over the past 3 months she has now become back to her lovely and inquisitive self again and has not told me she hates me once.

I am worried the teachers won't be able to answer her questions she has and that she won't get the attention she needs. She gets very upset if people don't listen to her when she is telling them information.

Should I just see how this school goes without telling the teachers her needs or should I home school her? I am at home all day anyway with my 8 month old.

Thanks.

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catkind · 04/09/2016 16:30

Mandy, I think that's quite normal and good that they start learning from other sources than you. One of the joys of early reading is that you can hand a load of the responsibility for providing input over to the library. Don't know that I teach them much really. And I'm very clever indeed Wink.

We do have some mathsy toys around as I love that sort of thing. More often I find a learning app/game or book or DVD for whatever they're interested in. If you did want to add algebra to the physics and chemistry, Dragonbox is rather fun.

user789653241 · 04/09/2016 18:33

Agree with dragon box.
I think you just have to follow her lead/interest and provide resources for her to progress.
My ds is learning from website/ you tube mainly as well.

JustRichmal · 04/09/2016 20:44

I would recommend Khan Academy. It will assess their level and then set work. And it has the bonus of being free.

EarthboundMisfit · 04/09/2016 20:49

Khan Academy is very good, I agree.

user789653241 · 04/09/2016 21:22

Khan....my/ds's life saviour, literally.

user789653241 · 04/09/2016 21:40

I dicovered MN when my ds was almost end of yr1.
These are the sites I wish I discovered earlier.

www.khanacademy.org/ obviously from all the recommendation.

www.duolingo.com/

www.readtheory.org/

www.mangahigh.com/en-gb/

LuchiMangsho · 05/09/2016 07:54

I think it all depends on how confident you feel about teaching her. We are a mostly no-screen family BUT I am an academic in the humanities/social sciences and DH is a medic/scientist and between us we can teach pretty much most things a 4 year old would want to know. I am reasonably sure I can teach pretty much anything (except some bits of science) at primary level. So for us the strategy that works is we let him lead. Sometimes he is into multiple things at once and sometimes the same thing over a period of time but whatever he wants to know, we try and do thoroughly. So instead of just memorising capital cities for example we try and find out one thing about that capital city in addition to that, and (just an example) how to say hello and goodbye in that language. And because we live under the Heathrow flight path, what the airlines of that country looks like. I don't want him to just accumulate trivia but be able to connect what he knows.

We read to him a LOT even though he can obviously read. Up to an hour of reading a day. And then if he's read or heard about something he finds interesting (currently the Great Fire of London for obvious reasons) then we help him explore that. So as a historian I took him to the archives to show him some of the documents (also exciting to see what Mummy does at work!) and went for a walk around Monument and so on. Obviously I understand that this may not be possible and there is stuff I don't know but when he is interested in things I don't have a clue about (how diesel trains work eg) I will sit down and find out with him, IYKWIM.

Tiggles · 05/09/2016 14:50

If she can read pretty much anything, then the school is bound to have lots of reference books. Teach her how to use an index and she can look up her own answers to questions. Then the only question she needs to bother a teacher with is can she go to the library. Hope this doesn't come across as snipy, it isn't meant to be.
The teacher will soon pick up what your DD can/can't do, that is the joy of learning through play IMO, and pitch stuff accordingly.

catkind · 06/09/2016 00:41

If only it was that simple tiggles, unfortunately they don't actually send kids off to the library on demand (or DS would have taken up residence there by now...).

I really hope they will pick up where DD is and pitch stuff accordingly. I'm not clear yet how that works really when the whole classroom is set up with wall displays and resources and activities to teach them counting and basic phonics. Also, DD's a child who will want to play with people, so she's kind of limited to what the others can keep up with.

And that probably sounds like I'm being dreadfully rude to the others in her preschool class, which is not fair - they're a lovely bunch and DD is very fond of them. They just seem very young. You see whole different dimensions of play emerge when she's playing with slightly older friends.

user789653241 · 06/09/2016 07:19

IME, reception was fine.
The reception teacher was great, she asked me to bring in books he read at home, work books he did, diary he was doing during summer. Also the nursery provided detailed report about what he can do.
He was allowed to bring home reading book + 2 extra everyday. He was tested on spelling from the start. Homework was totally differentiated. He was sent to yr2 for numeracy and literacy.
Problem only started in yr1, when he had a teacher who wasn't interested.

Tiggles · 06/09/2016 07:44

Smile I guess that is where having the boys at a little village school is useful. Probably much more free flow than a big school. And teachers ask children what they want to learn about relating to the broad topic area then help them learn to investigate and research the answers so lots of access not just to books but practical experiments too.

catkind · 06/09/2016 09:16

That sounds fab Tiggles. Irvine, I think that's it, it's very teacher dependent. Slightly worried head teacher could also be a barrier to anything as unusual as sending to different classes in our case, from what I know of him.

user789653241 · 06/09/2016 12:47

To be honest, I think it worked so well only because of free play nature of reception.
Sending different classes in different year group didn't work so well later on, due to time tabling issues any way, and stopped in the end.
Also he was getting too much negative attention from older children, which was not so great.
I think these can only work if the school as a whole is willing to do it.

AndNowItsSeven · 06/09/2016 12:51

If she was my child I would be looking at a scholorship for a private school, possibly in year one if she is nearly five.

catkind · 06/09/2016 23:04

Significant scholarships for 4-5 yr olds is not a thing. Is it? Even for secondary round here scholarship means 10% or so off. For us, the nearest is in a different town anyway, we'd have to have a SAHP to do it logistically, at which point may as well home ed.

yoyo1234 · 09/09/2016 07:24

As Richmal said. School relationships can be complicated.

If you can home school I really would-especially if she ends up unhappy. There are lots of groups for children to join in that are also at far more socially and developmentally correct ratios of children to adults.

Drivingforpeace · 09/09/2016 22:26

Just a couple more ideas, my DS age 4 is similar. At the moment he loves Sudoku (started on easy ones, doing adult ones now) dot to dots (although beware of the competitiveness, they soon want ones that go up to 500 dots and don't print out well!), Maths frogs app is good. Also we haven't done any board games yet so for upcoming birthday I have bought a Brain box memory game one which looks fun, another one called Qwirkle, I'm hoping these will be a new sort of learning to keep him satisfied. A where's wally jigsaw too. I find Pinterest helpful sometimes when I'm running out of ideas. It is worrying, I will watch with interest as mine has just started school too. also I heard the other day that if your head teacher agrees to it, you can ask to homeschool just one day a week.

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