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books for 8yo DS with reading age of 15

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darleneoconnor · 11/05/2011 23:45

DS had his reading assessed at school and he's done much better then I had expected. I knew he was a bit ahead but he doesn't like 'language' so I didn't expect too much. he prefers non-fiction to fiction but I'd welcome some appropriate suggestions on either. I dont mind him reading some things tht are a bit above his age as he is quite streetwise and pre-teenish in his behaviour/outlook but I'd imagine that 15+ books would have unsuitable themes in them.

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seeker · 13/05/2011 13:09

But don't be disappointed if the child concerned isn;t interested in any of the books from your childhood. "The past is another country, they do things differently there"!

suzikettles · 13/05/2011 13:16

Garth Nix - Keys to the Kingdom series might be worth looking at. He's written some others as well which are excellent, aimed at teenagers, pretty scary but depends on the child.

lljkk · 13/05/2011 14:31

I tried 9yo DS on Tom Sawyer. He managed about 3 pages before giving up; then I re-read it & realised how incredibly old-fashioned the language was. Wonderful period colloquisms, but my bookworm modern boy had no patience for decoding them.

I'll get him to watch the movie, some time Wink.

Swarski · 13/05/2011 19:39

I guess every child is different, but my DD has read Great Expectations (aged 9) and loved it. She loved the Hobbit, but hated treasure island.

She also loves re-reading books and has read Matilda and The Witches numerous times.

Loves the Arthur Ransome books too although says that the language is 'funny'.

darleneoconnor · 13/05/2011 21:49

I went to a bargain book shop but a lot of the suggested books had tiny print which I knew would put DS off. I didn't want to give him books he wouldn't read so took him there after school. He picked out Jack Higgins's Surefire and Edgar Hyde's Soul Harvest.

I wanted a bit more variety so ended up in Waterstones and WHSmith where he picked out Adam Slater's The Shadowing Hunted (which has a very scary cover) and 2 Naruto Manga books. Certainly different from what I would have picked for him!

I'm happy that he's willing to try out new things, as he was quite a reluctant reader for a while. He's up for some of the classics too but I'll wait until I can find some easier to read editions.

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PrettyCandles · 13/05/2011 22:00

Get a subscription to National Geographic. Our whole family thoroughly enjoys it, from the adults, through the similarly advanced readers currently aged 10 and 8, right down to the 4yo pre-reader.

Not everyone reads every page of every issue, but there's always something for each of us, and whenever an article piques a child's interest they choose to read the text. And then they are also an excellent source of pictures to cut out.

JemimaMop · 14/05/2011 05:49

I actually chose to read quite a lot of Dickens when I was still at primary school, although certainly not as young as 8. I was at a small village primary school and was quite a precocious reader, the Head used to bring me books of her own from home for me to read and there were several Dickens novels amongst them. I remember really liking Great Expectations when I was about 10, however looking back I'm not sure that I really understood a lot of what was going on.

Strangely, although I have always read a lot, I don't think I've read any Dickens apart from Christmas Books since leaving primary school. Maybe the early over exposure ruined it for me!

bibifrida · 14/05/2011 10:42

It definitely depends on the child whether or not they'll enjoy the classics!

I read Tolkien when I was seven (not G & T, just precocious reader), Dickens when I was 7 or 8. I didn't like Oliver Twist, but I loved David Copperfield; and some of those strong images and remembrances of the effects those scenes had as a child bring back fond memories indeed.

I also loved Brontes as an early teenager 12/13 (all that angst and despair), and dd does too. Jane Austen is lovely to read as an early teen. Northanger Abbey was my favourite.

singersgirl · 14/05/2011 16:48

I'm not saying that no 8 year olds would read the classics ( I did too, and Jane Austen at 11 etc). I'm just saying that I think that they are odd choices as recommendations as there are so many other books more suited to almost all 8 year olds, even the precocious readers. Nobody recommended them to me - I picked them up off our shelves at home. My mum didn't specifically think that it would be a good idea to give me Dickens to read.

quirrelquarrel · 14/05/2011 19:50

At that age, I had a very specific and focused Aspie interest, so even though my parents wanted to and did control my reading, it was something of a hard decision to make for them, because on one hand, ploughing through these fairly esoteric and wordy books at age eight- fantastic, lots of vocab, at that age it really does soak in easily- but it wasn't great subject matter (the Holocaust). Then again, although I was fascinated, I didn't always get it, it didn't sink in. I think you can count on the nature of an average 8 year old's maturity to shield them from a lot of that kind of thing. Swear words can be discussed- steer clear of the more explicit books, obviously, but access to that kind of genres can be more easily restricted anyway.

When I grew out of that, I moved on to the classics like Wuthering Heights etc. You could try him on those- some really beautiful passages. Again, a lot of it will go right over his head, but in terms of language acquisition, breadth of reading, those sorts are great. I reread and reread my old Enid Blytons for comfort reads. I also didn't consider my Babysitters Club books a guilty pleasure!
Adrian Mole is the kind of thing you can read whether or not you're clued in. I practically was Adrian at 14 and I took him very seriously :o but I still enjoyed it!
If he is motivated and has high concentration skills- start him on the Russians, why not. No long and intricate sentences to trip you up, very clear, again enjoyable without thinking about any hidden meanings- try short ones- maybe some of Chekov's funnier short stories. If he's willing, why not go for gold and set him loose on War and Peace.
Whenever someone asks for a book recommendation, I will invariably put Chaim Potok forward- I think he's fantastic- and novels like "Davita's Harp" and "In the Beginning" or "My Name is Asher Lev" might interest him because the narrators are children for a good deal of the way through (in fact, gifted children, which could also be interesting for him).

Or what about those Penguin 'adventure' or 'travelling' reissued books- the very thin books with the khaki covers, written by the original adventurers?

At that age, it doesn't really matter how great comprehension is- the important thing is to keep him reading. If he's bored with a self-chosen book, make sure he perseveres. Bring him to a higgeldy-piggeldy and spend a while in there just talking about books and let him choose a few.
There's nothing as lovely as rereading a book you read during your childhood, all nostalgic but discovering new things, see how much your perceptions have changed...

quirrelquarrel · 14/05/2011 19:53
  • those kind

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quirrelquarrel · 14/05/2011 19:54
  • kinds!

gosh, do I know English?

Sorry for triple post! People seem to be very conscientious about grammar on here.

mrsvwoolf · 14/05/2011 20:04

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MrsSnaplegs · 14/05/2011 20:18

Rick riordan - kids books my dh and I love!!
Matthew Reilly but only the seven ancient wonders series as the others are a bit graphic
Clive cussler - a few adult relationships but nothing risqué
Trudi canavan
Anne mcaffrey dragon series
Bill Bryson - very funny
Patrick obrien who wrote the books the film master and commander is based on

I was reading at his level at that age, the local library hated me!! I was there every day in the school holidaysGrin

You may want to scan some of these authors first and check his understanding of some of the adult themes

MrsSnaplegs · 14/05/2011 20:19

Sir Arthur Conan Doyle - Sherlock Holmes!

letthembe · 14/05/2011 21:35

Journey to the River Sea and others by the eva ibbotson, such rich figurative language

seeker · 15/05/2011 00:30

Yhe significant think I'm picking up form posters on her ethat tha Classics work if the child chooses them hfor him or herself. They should be available - I'm assumingthat some at least will eb in any reasonably bookish household, but I don;t think that they should be suggested to a child as young as 8. I think it was different in our day. Tere were far fewer books intended for children - particularly good ones, and ther was far less to do. For many of us it was read or nothing, and once we had read all the available children's books we had no choice but to move on to adult ones. I'm sure many of us read our way throug the hchildren's section of the library - I would be surprised if amny children ahve done that nowadays. Far mor books, lots of other interesting things to do!

Swarski · 15/05/2011 07:57

Also Michael Morpego books - my DD's friends really love them. Funnily she does not- says that the sentences structure is odd, but I have read a few and they explore lots of interesting areas and worth a look..

WidowWadman · 15/05/2011 08:13

Maybe something like Jon Krakauer or Joe Simpson - both mountaineering non-fiction and very good reads

herecomesthsun · 15/05/2011 08:18

Stuff like The Day of the Triffids? Jules Verne?

seeker · 15/05/2011 08:29

He's 8! Jules Verne? Really?

Honestly you don't have to read Really Hard Books just because you can. I can read Really Hard Books too - but I usually don't.

exoticfruits · 15/05/2011 08:42

I don't see the problem. Take him to the library every week and let him have a free choice.
I thought that you read for pleasure -one sure way to put him off is to make it all terribly worthy-there are lots of books that I am quite capable of reading but I don't. I have a complete mix-I don't see why an 8yr old is any different.
I expect that my reading age was high at 8yrs, but I had the joy of a public library.

Himalaya · 15/05/2011 08:57

Currently Reading the Frank Cotrell Boyce books, Framed, Millions and Cosmic to 8 year old DS who is dyslexic so reading age much less than comprehension age. Good books, I am enjoying reading them!

As a kid I loved Leon Garfield's historic fiction, but it doesn't seem so popular now. I wonder if I went back and read them now they would seem to wordy and slow for today's pacier expectations?

love Goodnight Mister Tom but haven't yet pursuaded my kids to read it yet.

exoticfruits · 15/05/2011 09:07

There are some books that you will simply spoil if you read too early. My DS loved Mister Tom, and so did I, but I really don't think that you want to read it at 8yrs-better to wait a couple of years.
The library is the best option. The aim is to get the DC to read for pleasure and not to get obsessed with decoding. Leave him ina library for half and hour and he will find books that he likes!

PrettyCandles · 15/05/2011 09:10

Make more challenging books available. Read the first chapter or two to them to pique their interest and, if necessary, get them over the often slower start than many modern books have, and then let them decide whether they want to continue reading that book, or try other similar books, or even have you read it to them.

Seeker, ds1 read 20,000 Leagues aged 8y. It was his favourite book for 2y until he came across some modern authors writing adventures for young teens. 20,000L spawned some interesting discussions, because I had to explain that, at the time it was written, it was a sic-fi fantasy, and that neither the science nor the marine biology were accurate, not forgetting, of course, the societal and racial relationships.

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