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Could I have [mild] ME?

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Christmastreedelivery · 14/12/2010 21:19

Hello.

have had a bit of a light bulb moment this week. I am starting to wonder if I might have ME, in a mild form?

I have noticed that I seem to go through cycles of being ok. When I am in a cycle of not being ok, I have the things in my list going on.

Aches. Mainly joints, it hurts to walk up and downstairs. My wrists ache, and I get shooting pains through my long bones. My back aches in a tired muscle sort of way. My pelvis and hips ache like I have been running, even when I am just sitting.

Tired: No matter how I catch up on sleep, or get a normal amount of sleep for me, I feel dog tired. Like jet lag, I feel myself nodding at traffic lights.

Words: I get them mxed up, and use the wrong ones. I start a sentence fine and then it runs away from me and I can't finish it without really concentrating and stumbling through.

Skin: Sore. That's the only way I can describe it, especially over my cheeks and arms.

Sweating: I have days [the bad days] where no matter what I do, I just pour sweat. Only my armpits, but still. Could do without it!

Palpitations: yes. These are there on the down days, at rest. I've had a 24hr tape, it was fine. Naturally I didn't have any during that 24 hrs!! Xmas Hmm

Treacle: Feels like I am wading through treacle. Not surprisingly on these down days I am grumpy and horrid mummy Sad

The thing is the cycle. That's what got me thinking. Yesterday I was great, baked, did crafts, did some plannning for work, tackled some jobs that needed doing [phoning for appointments and stuff like that]. I thought to myself last night, 'OOO you'll pay for this good day tomorrow' and that rang an alarm bell. I shouldn't be thinking like that should I?

I went to town for a 6 hour shopping trip, and seriously I had to go to bed for 2 days afterwards.

What do you think?

BTW, I am very unlikely to be anaemic, and I have had thyroid checked in the past.

Have Dr's appointment tomorrow. Will he think I'm a moaning bored mum who whould loose weight and get out more? I'm scared of getting the Hmm face!

OP posts:
belleshell · 17/05/2011 13:34

Norfolk, ((HUGS)) if you ever needed rest it is now...

Im just trying with the guilt of maybe going back to bed!!!!

NorfolkNChance · 17/05/2011 13:39

Hmm I wonder who Sid is and if he will do my housework? I meant to say sod the housework, stupid iPhone autocorrect!

magso · 17/05/2011 14:07

Ah Moose its fine - infact I'll join in with the lost (address book) and loosing touch with the organisational skills! I started to sort out winter clothes to put away (yes I know its a bit late really) but only got as far as making a big pile on the bed before giving up with achy arms. Dh will not be impressed!

Celestialstarlight · 17/05/2011 15:26

yes yes yes to lack of organisation and forgetting things even if it's in diary or written on calender. I once sent DS2 to school with his uniform on for a non uniform day and recently have been turning up to appointments an hour late or tooooo early and even on the wrong day Blush I have never been so disorganised or as forgetful as I am now.

Solo Just wondering if your headaches, sore throat, rubbish sleep pattern has more to do with recent hot cougar action rather than M.E flare up Wink Shock just a thought Grin

belleshell · 17/05/2011 16:52

id be lost with out my phone and reminders 24/7 that its pe or non uniform day or kids not in school, or get up!!!! hehehee oh the joys, ive just spent another afternoon in bed but justified it (in my own head that im in work rest of week and there is only me there)

also if im in bed weight watchers is soooooooooo much easier!

Could i be cheeky and ask if anyone gets DLA with their ME?

magso · 17/05/2011 17:38

Ah well yes I'd be lost without my phone - er I am lost! It was all in there and it froze and I had to have a new handset!! I thought all the stuff was on the sim - it wasn't so its all gone. So both electronic and natural memory on the blink!! Nearly phoned my DM to get DBs adress!!
Haven't asked about DLA but I have wondered.

belleshell · 20/05/2011 20:17

well im buggered and got the weekend to look ( survive) forward to....... tried to explain to 12 year old again tonight why 10.30 at weekends is late enough for bed, not only for his sake but for mine too, i figght going to sleep before then......... oh the joys

SoloIsAHotCougar · 21/05/2011 01:21

Celestial, there's no 'action' going on atm...we're going very slowly.

Belleshell, no. I tried for it in 2004; it took me 6 weeks to write it out as I was so ill...I gave them my best day scenario, not my worst.

SoloIsAHotCougar · 22/05/2011 21:58

I feel very unwell today. I took a Tramadol capsule yesterday and it made me feel spaced out! so I will not be taking another one. Anyone know how many paracetamol I can take in one hit to sort this limb pain? I'm not a tablet taker at all, but it's all getting too much atm.

belleshell · 23/05/2011 08:16

2 paracetamol every 4 hours no more than 8 in 24 hours, have you tried brufen too.....400mg every 6 hours. you can take 2 paracetamol then 3 hours later 2 brufen, then 3 hours later 2 paracetamol and so on......... see how you get on with that..........

good luck ive had limb pain all weekend its shit int it.............

SoloIsAHotCougar · 24/05/2011 00:56

Thanks belle. Yes it is! my arms now have it too which is new for me. Ho hum.

SoloIsAHotCougar · 24/05/2011 10:43

Been up all night in pain :(

magso · 24/05/2011 10:47

Well I think the epsom salt baths are helping along with the vit D3 and eating more nuts ( magnesium rich foods). I would rather be under the care of a good naturathpath doctor - why is it so hard to get more than a basic blood test!
Solo hope something helps you soon. Is it worth asking the pharmacist for advice re tramadol side effects?

SoloIsAHotCougar · 24/05/2011 11:12

Could do magso.

Don't think I mentioned on this thread about the 'indigestion' I had on Sunday; had it first thing before eating, then had it for about 5 hours in the afternoon, it was excruiciating and I think Mum thought I was having a heart attack! It wouldn't shift. I now think it could have been an effect of the Tramadol I took, because it is (I think) a similar type of pain killer as Tylex which gave me exactly the same chest pain some 20 years ago.

CFSKate · 24/05/2011 17:37

Hello again everyone. I'm sleeping a lot at the moment, and I'm not sure I'm really awake right now...

I hope it's not against the mumsnet rules to post this.

There's a facebook vote to win money for ME research happening right now, the vote closes Wednesday night USA time. All you need is a facebook account to vote, it doesn't cost you anything apart from two minutes, and you can be anywhere in the world.

I'm sure a lot of you know there's hardly any money spent on ME research, so anything we can get for free is great.

First you go to www.facebook.com/ChaseCommunityGiving and click "Like"

Then you go to apps.facebook.com/chasecommunitygiving/charities/205904991-whittemore-peterson-institute-fo and click the green vote button to vote for WHITTEMORE PETERSON INSTITUTE. The Whittemore Peterson Institute researches ME, autism, fibromyalgia and other related conditions. They are currently in 8th place, and the higher up they go, the more money they win. The top prize is $500,000.

Then you pass this info on to your friends for them to vote too!

clouty · 25/05/2011 14:33

Hi Kate, thanks for posting the Chase link - it's pretty easy to do. Hope everyone has voted for the Whittemore Peterson Institute by now - there's only fifteen hours left to go. I posted a thread on it elsewhere on mumsnet.

Celestial, Moose - this thread disappeared from my threads I'm on list too - I haven't been ignoring you, honest! Just lost the thread, as you do - mumsnet is a huge place! And C, I once turned up for an appointment a week early Blush Don't blame me, blame ME :o

Magso, your cream sounds awesome - you could have a winner there.

I've spent a couple of days in London last week at the Invest in ME conference with friends. I didn't really crash afterwards, either, yay! There was a lot of hopeful news about treatments they are testing for ME, one of which was a chemotherapy drug Rituximab, which seems to really help a lot of people. The understanding of ME is accelerating, and it really looks like we have HIV's wimpy hard to find baby brother in our systems - though there's been a lot of effort to bury the research, none of it has been of a high standard, and soon I believe the theory will be accepted generally. Roll on treatment that really works to make us better... people with HIV lead pretty normal lives now. So hang on in there everyone, we will get better one day soon - maybe this time next year the NHS will be forced to treat us properly.

xxx clouty xxx

SoloIsAHotCougar · 26/05/2011 00:31

Fingers crossed clouty! :)

NorfolkNChance · 26/05/2011 09:10

Everything crossed clouty

I'm having a few good days atm but I have a school residential coming up after half term that could set me back!

magso · 26/05/2011 21:48

Is there a write up for the conferance you attended Clouty. I thought the suppliments were helping but have had a difficult couple of days so feel a bit down now. Its half term next week too. Went to the local shop (by car) - and had to leave without getting anything as got wobbly. Had to get home whilst I still could.
I do hope your optimisum that we will get there one day is better founded Clouty.
I have found a product called magnesium oil that can be sprayed on the skin which is easier to control than rubbing on epsom dosed cream - although not as soft on the skin ( or as pretty since I put some B12 in it which turned it pink! I am uncomfortable dabbling in the dark. Does any one see an CFS specialist? Solo hope you are less achy. Good luck for your school residential Norflk.

moosemama · 28/05/2011 20:33

Thought I'd just bump us a bit as we'd dropped to the second page of threads in General Health.

Am not stopping, I have a humdinger of a cold/stomach virus thingy. Thought it was just a cold at first, but its decided to take over my whole body - unfortunately the rest of the family have all come down with it too, so our house isn't much fun this weekend.

Was supposed to be starting my low carb diet as well, but needless to say that hasn't happened. Have optimistically ordered a few low carbish snacks with this week's shopping in the hope I might feel like starting in a few days.

clouty · 30/05/2011 12:25

The only report on the Invest in Me conference that I know about is the one I wrote Grin I wonder if Mumsnet will allow such a long post? You can't have the graphics, I'm afraid, but they are not vital to the text.

All this is from my poor memory and limited notes. I hope I've reflected the presentations accurately, but I cannot guarantee it.

The evening before the conference, there was a presentation by Ian Gibson and Hilary Johnson at the Thistle Hotel in Victoria. About a hundred people attended, which was all the venue could hold, as we were seated at round tables spread with white cloths in preparation for the supper that was to follow the speeches.

Ian Gibson, the first speaker, talked about his career in Parliament and how the Labour Party re-started British science after 1997 . No mention of the expenses scandal that lost him his seat in Norwich, though.
Parliament is about personalities, he said, not evidence, which was a depressing thing to hear. He talked of the interface and conflict between science and politics.

He talked about the proposed ME clinic in Norwich, which is hitting some opposition, but he is still hopeful for. There was a presentation the next day, also about the clinic, which rang some alarm bells with me, which I will come to when I get to the conference report.

The take home from his presentation was that we need to win friends and influence people, and that a group of fifty electorates can make an MP sit up and listen. He told us how ignorant many neuro consultants are, and suggested that they could do with some education. Although it was not said in so many words, he implied that mass email campaigns are effective, if only to show the numbers of electors that are keen for policy on ME to change.

Hilary Johnson was a refreshing change. She said we had won over many allies since 2009, and she regretted the twenty years that have passed since DeFreitas, too, found a retrovirus, and importantly also the antibodies to a retrovirus, in pwME. That discovery was made at the dawn of the PCR system of finding bugs, and the implication was that DeFreitas's CAV may have been an HGRV, but the testing system was too crude at the time to be precise, Her samples were contaminated with Gibbon Leukemia Virus, another gamma retrovirus, later, while they were at the CDC.

Fortunately, Hilary said, Mikovits is not as naive as DeFreitas. The team that put the science study together donned CDC proof chainmail before publication. As you know, the Science study was in peer review for six months. In July 2009, about four months after it was submitted, John Coffin and Stuart LeGrice met up to discuss how to manage XMRV. Coffin was one of the peer reviewers. They were worried, and are worried, not so much about the CFS connection as by the lymphomas potentially cooking in 4% of the population. 10 million Americans. Hillary made that point a couple of times. She also said she sensed fear in Washington.

It was Anthony S. Fauci and Francis Collins who demanded the hold on the Alter/Lo paper. Hillary told us of a joke going round about Fauci, who has been pulling the strings at NIAIDS since 1984: It's Napoleon that has the Fauci complex! Fauci is a small, but very powerful man, and he is a lot of the reason for all the delays, lack of funding and misinformation we have seen in the ME/CFS field, according to Ms Johnson. And he is why ME/CFS has been confined to the funding, lab and manpower free zone that is the broom cupboard known as Women's Health.

I did not know that around the time DeFreitas made her retroviral findings, in 1991 in New Zealand similar discoveries were being made, and again, they found antibodies. Before the internet became universal, it was much easier to stifle research.

She warned us that HGRV's are more stable than Lentiviruses like HIV. They survive in low ph environments (think bleach, detergent) and may well be more contagious. Is this why Washington looks so nervous?

We should (well, the Americans should) demand a congressional investigation into Fauci and the relationship between HIV and XAND (or X-AIDS or...) which brings me to the next point - we need a new name. CFS is our slave-name, Hilary said, invented to belittle the disease, and ME looks selfish, or in the full version is an impossible mouthful. I asked Hilary what she had in mind, and it seems she thinks we should get our thinking caps on and agree on a new name. We need to reframe the disease, and break out of the straight-jacket that Wessely and the CDC put us into for all these decades.

The conference proper was held at No.1 Birdcage Walk, on the edge of Regent's Park The building was redolent of Victorian patrimony, magnificent and full of marble. We were seated in the lecture theatre, with its terraced bank of cramped red velvet cinema seats.

Annette Whittemore gave the opening address. She pointed out the funding discrepancies between ME/CFS and MS, with in one year MS getting $135 million, while ME got $6 million. No illness group gets less than us! Annette then said there were many parallels between HIV and ME, and MS and ME, and while HIV is harder to catch, it gets something like $16 billion a year.

The WPI originally went looking for a Herpes virus, and they have an open mind about ME/CFS causation.

David Bell (the darling) spoke next. Imagine a fit Father Christmas in mufti. He told us that there are ten good physical tests for ME that have existed for a long time. He then went on to talk about a recent follow up study he did on the Lyndonville cohort, mostly children and adolescents at the time of getting sick, since 1984.

Of the 210 people he assessed, when asked the simple question "are you still ill?" 80% said no, and 20% said they were. But when he looked more closely at the 80%, and used some objective measures of health, such as how long each day they remained active, he found that half were managing their energy carefully, and had obviously learned to cope with the disease. The 20% who said they were still sick, were really poorly. In all, of the original cohort, 72% were still suffering with ME/CFS, only 8% had truly recovered, and 20% were coping well, but still symptomatic to some degree.
David told us that ME is a biphasic illness, which starts severely and suddenly, slowly improves over five years, then gradually gets worse again...
I'm not sure if it was David or the next speaker, Dr Andreas Koglenik, that talked of the causation triangle:

----genetics

environment------vectors

Vectors being external pathogens like bacteria, viruses, poisons etc.

Dr Koglenick was a smart young man (anyone under 40 is young, to me) who was keen to tell us about his Open Medicine Institute, which is working with the WPI and others as a sort of database and clearing house for information of all kinds on ME/CFS. He's been working in the field for six or seven years, and is trying to help create a research/clinic reconnect. OMI is a data/network hub.

The problem with medicine today, he said, is that there is a cookie-cutter approach. While guidelines-based medicine appears to be effective and economical on the surface, it fails to find a cure, or be much help at all in many diseases, and therefore he believes that current and future technology will create better and cheaper pathways to treatment, using molecular medicine to accurately diagnose and prescribe for the individual.

There are unique dynamic response expression signatures available to define disease and test susceptibility to treatment. But we need to be aware that cytokines, for example, are difficult to isolate correctly. Poor sample handling can ruin results. My thoughts were that we are in the early days for a new system of diagnosis and treatment that may give brilliant results in the future. I was heartened by the enthusiasm of Dr. Koglenick, and his obvious skill using new technology to unscramble the puzzle that is neuro-immune disease.

John Chia was the next speaker, focussing on enteroviruses. Apparently, 35% of pwME are Enterovirus Positive. The more EV's in one's body, the more sick one is. He went on to talk about the TH1/TH2 immune profile seesaw. pwME are TH2 biased, and for that reason find fighting pathogens difficult. TH1 bias is more effective at resisting disease, but in the process creates pain and inflammation. I was pleased to hear him include herbal immune boosters in his list of useful treatments, as I have found Allicin and Cats Claw very helpful in reducing pain and improving cognition, although many find they get an adverse reaction, at least to start with. Other treatments he spoke of included immunoglobulin, which can ameliorate inflammatory symptoms in less than 1/3 of adults patients, but may be more effective in pediatric patients and those with severe myalgia. Alpha and Gamma interferon combined can induce short-term remission in about 45% of debilitating myalgic ME, but is expensive and often poorly tolerated. Oxymatrine or Equilibrant helped 52% or 700 ME/CFS patients, but most suffered temporary worsening at the start of treatment. It is helpful to start low and build up with these two therapies.

Professor Geoffry Burnstock was next. His talk was on Purinergic Signalling, and I must admit most of it went right over my head I was particularly confused with the frequent mention of ATP, which I had understood was the energy molecule sent out by the mitochondria, but Burnstock said it came from many different cell types. He talked of rats, and how their tumors reduced in the presence of ATP. His wife wrote this poem:
A busy bee called ATP
Whose wings were full of energy
who worked and built inside the cell
emerged to see what he could tell.

And no, I don't know what that means, either. Sorry.

Dr James Baraniuk spoke before lunch. By now my brain was dying, and I am ashamed to say I skived out for a lay down. Those seats were far too cramped!

From the Journal of IinME, I can tell you he is studying proteomic (protein) differences between veterans with Gulf War Illness (GWI) and healthy veterans. Of the 750,000 GI's that went to the first Gulf War, 1/3rd, or 250,000 now have GWI . The theory is that GWI may be realated to a certain genotype for an enzyme that degrades two of the body's important antioxidants, one of which is Carnosine.

They are conducting a CFS study also, similar to the GWI one, but including spinal taps because they believe that increased spinal pressure could be associated with CFS symptoms, and so they are measuring spinal fluid pressure.

The current hypothesis is that specific proteins are seen in the spinal fluid of CFS and GWI patients but not in healthy controls.

We all trouped out to feed our needs at lunch, some catching time laying flat in the rest room, others straight to queue for their meal, all queuing for the loos. There were only few places to sit down to eat, which posed a problem for many poorly people. The food was OK. The last piece of cheesecake was nabbed by a person who turned out to be the last speaker of the day, the representative from the BMJ.

The first post-prandial lecture was from Simon Carding and Tom Wileman from the University of East Anglia. They divided their explanation of the involvement of the gut in the immune system between them. The GI tract walls are our first line of defence against pathogens. The importance of a flora balance in the gut was explained, and the connection to emotional feeling that are in part due to the situation in the gut. The term 'gut feeling' is based in fact, they said.

Oystein Fluge and Olaf Mella gave the next presentation. They are Norwegian oncologists, cancer specialists, and are conducting a trial with a modified chemotherapy regime. I personally have heard of two people who's ME has gone into remission after chemotherapy. And I have an acquaintance taking Rituximab, another auto-immune disease, Arthritis. I have removed the details of this talk, for confidentiality reasons.

Kenny DeMeirler spoke next. He began with a long list of the biomedical tests that show abnormalities in ME/CFS. I list the ones I made legible notes on here.

Blood sedimentation rate is 1-2mm per hour (normal range 12-23mm/hour)
Thrombositosis
Eosinophilia - whatever that is
Low Uric acid indicating a shift to a TH2 immune profile
Copper/ceruloplasmin raised
AST/ALT raised (indicating immune activation)
Gamma GT
D3 levels abnormal
Alcaline phosphates lowered
abnormal Ferratin - can be raised or lowered
Ig1/Ig3 lowered
Abnormal protein electrophoresis
Lymphocytes down to half normal
CD4++ lowered
NK cells altered
B cells can be up or down from normal
CD14 raised in 90% of cases (correlates to severity)
C4a up in 80%
Perforin mRNA abnormal
Low stool IgA in 98%

A large number of ME/CFS early morning urine samples were tested, and the results showed 80% with a TH2+ or ++ profile.

Anything you are curious about here, Google can help with. Phew!

Kenny went on to talk about the ongoing GcMAF trial, where some patients are responding favourably and some find no change. GcMAF/redox is a cryptic note I made myself that I cannot decipher now. We await the final results.

Next, the star of the show, Judy Mikovits in person. Also known affectionately as motormouth, Judy speaks at a rate only a top shorthand reporter could keep up with. XMRV is a simple retrovirus, with more in common with HTLV. Judy worked on HTLV at one time. 5 to 8% of people infected with HTLV go on to develop disease. XMRV preferentially integrates in CpG islands, it is the first RV to be known to do so. It activates microglia and creates a different cytokine signature than PMuLV's, a closely related RV. B cells (again) may well be the reservoir of XMRV.

Hormones and inflammation upregulate XMRV. Perhaps more than 20 million Americans are infected (at 8% developing disease, if it is the same as HTLV, thats 1.6 million ill with XMRV related illness - my extrapolation).

I wish I'd managed to capture more from Judy's stunning presentation. I believe it was very similar to her presentation in Belfast a couple of days later, that is reported on Dr. Speedy's blog. So as a way to cover my inadequacies, here's a link to the photo journal report
niceguidelines.blogspot.com/2...erday-was.html

Next was Dr Beiger's presentation of an XMRV study in Germany. As this is not yet published, we were asked not to reveal the details. It is not certain that this is a positive, or a negative study from the information we were given. I have to end this bit here.

Finally there was a question and answer session with all the days speakers on stage. In response to a question about definitions, Kenny DeM told us that a new version of the Canadian Consensus Criteria has been written, and is about to be published. Right at the end of the long dias table, as far away from Richard of IinME's podium as it was possible to be, sat a face we had not seen before.

Invest in ME always send out invites to medical journals like the Lancet and the BMJ, and they usually decline but the BMJ this time were kind enough to send as their representative the Deputy Editor. After a few written questions, which were forgettable enough, she stood up to speak. She introduced herself as Dr Trish Groves, a psychiatrist.

She said she thought our conference was concentrating on the wrong field, and that the presentations were too complex to follow. She asked if she was the only one with this problem, and the audience responded in the affirmative. She said we would get more papers published if we followed a few rules, and that she would be happy to come back next year to tell us how to do it. Well thank you ma'am!

Well. I was gobsmacked, though in hindsight it is progress to get one of the medical journal's editors to the conference at all. And many in the audience were angry. There were some lively comments, as you might imagine, and then Annette Whittemore managed to close the conference on a positive note. What a star she is!

resources.bmj.com/bmj/about-bmj/about-bmj/editorial-staff/trish-groves

clouty · 30/05/2011 12:39

Hi magso, sorry to hear you've had a turn for the worse. This illness is relapsing and remitting, and we just have to find a way to cope. I gave up driving a couple of years ago - I found that the concentration required, while I could do it, made me ill afterwards - the old Post Exertional Malaise. I am so green now lol - anyone want to buy carbon footprint brownie points? I sometimes set out to shop, and turn back 50 yards down the road (or less) when I realize I'm not going to make it Confused

Hi moose thanks for bumping the thread. Re diet, a lot of us find we do best on a fruit 'n veg rich diet, with plenty of protein and a reasonable amount of good fats. Please avoid Aspartame, it's not good for us (or anyone, really) and there's lots of convincing info on that online. Sorry you have had that worst of family nightmares, everyone sick including mum, at the same time - I hope the bug is subsiding now.

moosemama · 30/05/2011 13:20

Hi Clouty, will have a read of that when I manage to get a bit of my brain function back. Its lots in a horrible mix of brain fog and snottiness at the moment! Everyone else seems to be improving, but I seem to be stuck at the same point in the bug as I was last Friday. Hmm

I avoid all artificial sweetners already - aspartame is the devils work imho.

I have been having an think and have decided not to do the whole low carb plan, but to significantly reduce refined carbs and go for a basic simple diet instead. Last time I did the severe carb restriction I was ill for weeks afterwards. So I am going for porridge and fruit or probiotic yoghurt and fruit for breakfast, salad and a protein source for lunch and something like a veggie protein source (tofu, quorn, tvp) and steamed veg for evening meal. I will however keep my snacks high protein rather than carb and will be going for six small intakes rather than three large ones every day. I do know how to do it, but I'd dreadful for giving in to comfort food cravings.

Having said all that, the diet can wait until I'm over this blasted virus - can't face cooking at the moment. I have been good and made sure there's no sugary or junk food in the house though, so not all bad. neglects to mention the Haagen Daz she ate (purely medicinal you understand, for her sore throat) the other day. Blush

alypaly · 30/05/2011 23:35

Hello you guys.........sorry i havent been around for a while. I have been so tired after work that i have hardly used my computer. My eyes which are already so dry get even more sore,the longer i spend on the computer. Sorry to hear you are not so good moose and magso
Have ended up doing even more hours at work now. Did 29 hours overtime last month. Im jiggered,but need the money.=(

Got a shock last week and i am now going in for an angiogram next week on the 6th June. I am a bit scared incase they find something wrong. Blood pressure has been ridiculously high and have had really bad headaches. Dont think job is helping too much!!!!!!

Havent had chance to read you mammoth post yet clouty. will do soon

magso · 31/05/2011 16:32

Thank you clouty for you long post. I need to read it properly. Wow that must have taken you a while to post!
Eosinophilia is when there are more eosinophils in the blood than is usual. (they are not common normally)Eosinophils are a type of White blood cell with the job of killing off parasites but they seem to get sidetracked in some of us and cause damage and destruction to their own body. Eosinophils behaving badly are involved in asthma and lots of immune disorders. I had a high count when in hospital with pneumonia. Thought it was interesting that eosinophilia can occur in CSFS too. Hope all that information will help with treatments that work.
Alypaly hope the tests are helpful but your. BP puts itself right. It's so hard to not overdo it in a new job but I should gently flame you for it! Hope you are enjoying the new job even if it is wearing you out.

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