1921 census - adresses?

[knittingaddict]

I've downloaded a handful of images of the 1921 census, but none of them have the address on there. Does anyone know if the transcripts will include an address? At £3.50 for an image and £2.50 for the transcript I don't want to waste any of my money getting both and still not having an address for them.

@Dogmum40

Sorry to hijack this thread but does anyone know how to find the history of a house? We live in a 200 year old quirky house and I’ve been desperate to search for the previous occupants and the actual history of the house, I don’t mind paying to get this info but like the OP you can’t search for addresses! I have absolutely no idea of the names of people who lived here or who built it, just obviously my address

If you choose advanced search on findmypast then you can enter the address

Yes it was on the 1921 Census, knittingaddict. I agree with you about the mis-spellings on the transcriptions. Several mistakes on my family record, but I had enough information to find them. It must be a hard job transcribing everyone's handwritten entries, though! I'd like to do more look-ups, but going to wait until it (hopefully) becomes free of charge to members!

@maximist

I have a membership. It still costs that much on top of the membership.

That's a con! I nearly subscribed to get access, it doesn't make it clear at all on the subscription pages. I'll wait till it gets onto Ancestry.

It's because it's all coming through find my past have been given exclusive publishing of it. So it's either pay findmypast £160 for a year's 'pro' access or pay as you go.

There is no date for if and when it will come onto other sites such as ancestry (I have paid subscription on there)

I'm considering finding a good 4 weeks where I know I can spend ages on the computer and paying for a month's full access of findmypast and gathering as many records, through downloads or screenshots, as I can in that time and then working through them after that. Not sure if it's possible but that's my plan if it is - just need to work out the how it might work.

I think even if you have whatever the top /premium membership is on Findmypast you still have to pay for the 1921 census. It does give you a 10% discount though.

Yes, you're right - just been checking.

I'll have to wait then. I can't justify the amount it would cost, on top of subscription costs, for what is a hobby/interest.

What info are you all seeking on 1921 census out of interest. I don't have gaps going backwards that aren't covered by 1911 or the 1939 register. But then maybe I am lucky to have found the info via family or otherwise.

If you pay for one entry you should be able to see all the details of the household which may be over more than one page. For example for my grandparent they are over 4 pages and I can page left and right until I get to the last page. There’s a little arrow (on iPad). I’ve drawn it in on the photo as it doesn’t show.

You can see better still on this one. Once you reach a page you don’t have access to it will ask for payment again.

The address will be on the last page.

What can you see for your £2.50? If I look up my grandmothers name will I se who lived in the house with her? Jobs? Address? Or just her details?

You will see all the occupants, birth year, birth place, age in years and months, marital status,occupation, employer.
In Wales you get languages spoken too (Welsh/English)

And address.

That’s fab. Thanks. I will do that tomorrow.

@MissAmbrosia

What info are you all seeking on 1921 census out of interest. I don't have gaps going backwards that aren't covered by 1911 or the 1939 register. But then maybe I am lucky to have found the info via family or otherwise.

I found out what happened to missing children.

I found out where my great grandparents met (i had always wondered as it made no sense from where I had known them to have been living)

DH's grandmother was born in 1920. I've found that her parents were living with her mother's family - her father was out of work.

And theres a couple of other bits and bobs. Just little gems that colour in details.

Ive also been able to check where certain people were born / what year they were born without purchasing a record which is helpful for tracking backward and double checking stuff too.

(Isolate a household by doing a blank search but put in a very narrow location and 'lived with household member' to restrict your returns. If you hover over a record without purchasing it you can see the names of 2 other people on the record plus how many more there are.

Example. I know Elizabeth Carbutt was born in Smithville in 1910. I can search for her. I can see she's now living in Jonestown. If I hover I can see she is living with Michael, Kate and 6 other people. I then can do a second advanced search. I leave both name fields blank, but put location Jonestown and lives with Elizabeth Carbutt. If Im lucky I will get just 8 returns - Michael Carbutt, Kate Carbutt, Simon Carbutt, Frank Carbutt, Fred Stone, Elsie Stone, Steve Thomas, Melissa Duke. Plus their age and where they were born.

I don't know their relationship nor jobs, but it gives me information I might not already have which I can then use to search other records. It might identify a new child - Frank Carbutt was born in 1919 and I didn't know about him. Or help identify a marriage I did not know about for example or narrows down options - I knew there was a record for an Elsie Carbutt marrying Fred Stone in 1919 but there was also knew there was one for Elsie Carbutt marrying Gary Flipper for example and I didn't know which was right)

I can't afford to buy records for every sibling of every branch of my family. One sibling I knew had married but i didn't know anything about him and he had a dead common name. Hes not on the 1939 register with her. I've been able to get the details and from that find out where he is in 39 and what his occupation was. He's interesting as it turned out he was 25 years her senior which I never knew!

My point being, you can make some use of the search if you use it well, without necessarily buying the actual record. As I say I have spent some money today, but i didn't need to buy records to find out useful bits too.

Addresses --- see if the town or city has a museum of local things and information. I found all kinds of information at the local museum about the houses and occupants across the ages.

Also, the Facebook page for the town sometimes have an historical FB page or group that have as members lots of people with information about the town and also old photographs 🙂🙂🙂

Can I ask a related question about census records? I'm interested in finding out who lived in my house. I have full access to Ancestry. If for example I'm looking at the 1911 census, I can find about 25 records for my road (e.g. Rose Lane) but in neither the front page of the record, nor the actual census page, is the postal address for any of the houses given as more detailed than 'Rose Lane, Littletown", i.e. no house names or house numbers are given, making it impossible to identify my house. Is this right or am I missing something?

We worked it out last night and I'm blaming FMP to some extent.

I was looking under "my records". Intuitively I think that should have somewhere under that heading for paid for records to go. It was just a list of all the records I have accessed through the search feature, so paid for content was in with other searches. If you click on the image icon it just downloaded the one image to the computer again.

If I do another search on the 1921 census I can click on the household I have paid for and view another page with the address on, by clicking on the right hand arrow.

I'm very surprised that there isn't a dedicated place on the website for these paid for 1921 census records.

At least I can see what I need to now. Thank you for all the replies and hopefully this will help others.

@MissAmbrosia

What info are you all seeking on 1921 census out of interest. I don't have gaps going backwards that aren't covered by 1911 or the 1939 register. But then maybe I am lucky to have found the info via family or otherwise.

We are trying to solve family history puzzles. The ones we sorted out yesterday were:

The employer of my husband's great grandfather. He had a theory and it proved to be correct.

Who my grandmother was living with. Her father died in the 1st World War and her mother remarried immediately, took her sons with her and left my grandmother with relatives. I now know for certain who those relatives were.

Also found out that my grandfather was in the army in 1921. No one knew that, not even my mum, who now has dementia.

One set of great grandparents seem to be living apart. There might be a simple explanation, but I'm intrigued.

My aunt''s late husband has always been a man of mystery. The 1939 register gave us some clues and I really thought the 1921 census would sort that out, but he doesn't appear to be there. There are some possibles, but I can't spend £2.50 a time to hunt him down. He will remain a man of mystery until the census is more cheaply available.

Personally I think every scrap of information adds to the story and sometimes throws up the unexpected. It's what I love about family history.

@Trodonplug

Can I ask a related question about census records? I'm interested in finding out who lived in my house. I have full access to Ancestry. If for example I'm looking at the 1911 census, I can find about 25 records for my road (e.g. Rose Lane) but in neither the front page of the record, nor the actual census page, is the postal address for any of the houses given as more detailed than 'Rose Lane, Littletown", i.e. no house names or house numbers are given, making it impossible to identify my house. Is this right or am I missing something?

On FMP, which is where I tend to look for census records, the house number is sometimes on the transcript, but not on the original form. I have both Ancestry and FMP subscriotions and use both equally. I much prefer FMP for the census.

@Trodonplug

Can I jump on and ask more about searching by address? I search by street name and location and I get '1 result'. I click on this and it comes up with '23 households" for that street. Is there no way of narrowing down these 23 households by house name/number. Or is it expected that I'll pay up to 23 x £2.50 to find the relevant house?

I have the same problem, just twenty records for my street with no indication of a house name or number (half of them definitely had names on the 1911 census). I'm wondering if there was a set route an enumerator would use I could use to figure it out? You know, up the left hand side and back down the right kind of thing.

It didn't work for me on the 1921 census but on the 1939 register I managed to find the people who were living next door in the 1911 census still living on my street, so if I assume the same house and I know their enumeration number is 207, then my house is probably 206 or 208.

It’s intriguing, I’ve found a mysterious person living with my great grandmother and grandmother and siblings. She shares a surname with my great great grandmother so it’s potentially a new lead.

@BestIsWest

It’s intriguing, I’ve found a mysterious person living with my great grandmother and grandmother and siblings. She shares a surname with my great great grandmother so it’s potentially a new lead.

For the Census - they might not necessarily live there - they could be visiting.

True @MissAmbrosia
fact I just checked again and it does indeed say Visitor. I hadn't noticed that. Probably a cousin or something.

@knittingaddict

Are the people saying that I can click backwards and forwrds through the pages talking about the 1921 census specifically?

I use FMP all the times and understand how to go through the census pages on the other census, but this new census works completely differently. You can pay for and view the one page/entry and that page doesn't appear to have the address on it.

If I try to view the page on the website under "my records" it downloads as a jpeg and is just the one page. It doesn't download additional pages with the address on.

On the 1921 census, go back to the link you were sent and open the image from that again. Across the bottom of the page is a 'filmstrip '. On there, you'll see "additional materials". You'll fine the page with the census address on there, and other useful info, such as a street map of the area.