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Anyone else feeling sad about not feeding the birds?

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PinkCatCushion · 10/04/2026 23:36

Anyone else feeling sad at not feeding the birds?
I understand the new advice, and can see the importance of removing bird feeders and only feeding in the winter, but I will miss feeding them so much.
Feeding and watching birds visit my feeders brings me genuine joy. It lifts my spirits. It’s got me interested in nature. I look forward to feeding them each day. I’m REALLY going to miss feeding them.

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Ileithyia · 13/04/2026 20:03

this was posted on Facebook by a wildlife rescue:

“The Truth About Canker: Stop the Panic, Start the Cleaning
The recent headlines regarding Trichomoniasis (canker) in wild birds have sparked a wave of "scaremongering" that might actually be doing more harm than good. The common knee-jerk advice—a blanket command to "stop feeding the birds"—is lazy, misleading, and dangerous, especially during the demanding breeding season.
The food isn't the problem. Poor hygiene is.
When we scare people into removing vital food sources without addressing the root cause, we leave birds vulnerable during their most physically taxing months. In an era of concrete jungles and plastic grass, wild birds rely on us more than ever. They don't need us to withdraw support; they need us to step up our standards.
The Real Culprits of Contamination
Disease doesn't thrive because of the seed; it thrives because of the environment. Trichomoniasis spreads when we allow our gardens to become "feathery versions of a grim service station toilet."
• Stagnant Water: Dirty bird baths are breeding grounds for bacteria.
• Contaminated Feeders: Moldy residue and bird droppings on perches.
• Ground Rot: Old, damp food left to decay on the soil.
• Overcrowding: Forcing too many birds into one static, filthy spot day after day.
How to Feed Safely (The Right Advice)
Instead of retreating in a panic, we should be pivoting toward responsible husbandry. If you want to help your local bird population, follow these common-sense rules:
• Sanitize Weekly: Clean feeders and baths with a weak disinfectant (or specialized bird-safe cleaner) and rinse thoroughly.
• Clear the Debris: Sweep up dropped food and old husks daily to prevent ground rot.
• Rotate Stations: Move your feeders around the garden to prevent pathogens from building up in one specific patch of soil.
• Freshness Matters: Only put out enough food for one or two days to ensure nothing sits around getting damp.
The "Mealworm Myth"
A common but misguided "fix" is swapping bird seed for dried mealworms. This is not a balanced staple diet. Dried mealworms have an inverted calcium-to-phosphorus ratio.
When growing chicks are fed a diet heavy in dried mealworms, it can lead to Metabolic Bone Disease, causing fractures, deformities, and immense suffering. Replacing proper nutrition with "crunchy nonsense" is not an act of kindness—it's a nutritional disaster.
The Bottom Line
Wild birds deserve better than watered-down advice dressed up as expertise. We must look at the bigger picture: our gardens are often the only "islands" of resources left for them.
The Golden Rule: If you see a localized outbreak of sick birds in your immediate area, then you should temporarily remove feeders to encourage the birds to disperse. Otherwise, the message is simple:
Keep feeding, but do it properly. Fresh food, fresh water, and a clean environment are the only ways to support birds through the risk of Trichomoniasis without starving them in the process. Be honest: are your feeders a five-star restaurant or a health hazard? It’s time to clean up our act.”

I have bought some brand new feeders and thrown away my old ones, and I’m going to fill them every couple of days. I already move them regularly, and have bought some sanitiser to clean them with. I am going with increased care and cleanliness and fewer feeders, rather than stopping completely

Seriestwo · 14/04/2026 08:25

O think the rspb makes a lot of money from their selling fees and feeders. If they say to stop there mist be some science behind it. I’m not sure where to get information from but I’m inclined to think the rspb must have considered washing feeders isn’t enough

SharonEllis · 14/04/2026 13:53

Seriestwo · 14/04/2026 08:25

O think the rspb makes a lot of money from their selling fees and feeders. If they say to stop there mist be some science behind it. I’m not sure where to get information from but I’m inclined to think the rspb must have considered washing feeders isn’t enough

Exactly. Only one infected bird will cause a problem. No idea why people think they know better than the experts?

InertBird · 14/04/2026 15:30

@Ileithyia thank you for sharing that info! I must confess I was labouring under the delusion that soaked mealworms were a 'safe' option.

I'm stopping with the feeders altogether. I won't keep on top of that hygiene regimen, so it's best not to risk it. For water I have a small barrel pond that the birds enjoy visiting and I might add another one this year. For food I'm going to focus on plants that are good food sources.

Ileithyia · 14/04/2026 16:11

InertBird · 14/04/2026 15:30

@Ileithyia thank you for sharing that info! I must confess I was labouring under the delusion that soaked mealworms were a 'safe' option.

I'm stopping with the feeders altogether. I won't keep on top of that hygiene regimen, so it's best not to risk it. For water I have a small barrel pond that the birds enjoy visiting and I might add another one this year. For food I'm going to focus on plants that are good food sources.

I wasn’t aware it was about hygiene until I read that, and sometimes having all the information allows you to make a proper decision. The fact that the rspb are saying feed mealworms made me doubt their ban, because I know they are nutritionally poor, for birds and hedgehogs.

Now that I understand how this disease is transmitted I’m able to continue to support the birds in my garden safely, I’ve got new bird feeders and will clean them and refill them regularly so there’s no stale mouldy food in them.

lessglittermoremud · 14/04/2026 18:17

I feed soaked calciworms here after being recommended to at this time of year.
The trouble is the birds have to get used to eating them and out of a choice of a 50/50 mix they pick out the mealworms and leave the calciworms

Moonlightfrog · 14/04/2026 19:30

I only really feed the birds in autumn and winter/early spring. The birds always come back. We do have a lot of natural food in our garden, I grow teasel and sunflowers which they eat in Autumn and winter. At the moment I still have peanuts up as we have a pair of woodpeckers still feeding and I have fat balls for the sparrows. The finches (which are what’s effected) have started disappearing anyway. We have had green finches, chaffinches and goldfinches over the winter. I am happy to remove my feeders in May, it also gives me a chance to get the rat situation under control 😬.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 14/04/2026 20:35

Ileithyia · 13/04/2026 20:03

this was posted on Facebook by a wildlife rescue:

“The Truth About Canker: Stop the Panic, Start the Cleaning
The recent headlines regarding Trichomoniasis (canker) in wild birds have sparked a wave of "scaremongering" that might actually be doing more harm than good. The common knee-jerk advice—a blanket command to "stop feeding the birds"—is lazy, misleading, and dangerous, especially during the demanding breeding season.
The food isn't the problem. Poor hygiene is.
When we scare people into removing vital food sources without addressing the root cause, we leave birds vulnerable during their most physically taxing months. In an era of concrete jungles and plastic grass, wild birds rely on us more than ever. They don't need us to withdraw support; they need us to step up our standards.
The Real Culprits of Contamination
Disease doesn't thrive because of the seed; it thrives because of the environment. Trichomoniasis spreads when we allow our gardens to become "feathery versions of a grim service station toilet."
• Stagnant Water: Dirty bird baths are breeding grounds for bacteria.
• Contaminated Feeders: Moldy residue and bird droppings on perches.
• Ground Rot: Old, damp food left to decay on the soil.
• Overcrowding: Forcing too many birds into one static, filthy spot day after day.
How to Feed Safely (The Right Advice)
Instead of retreating in a panic, we should be pivoting toward responsible husbandry. If you want to help your local bird population, follow these common-sense rules:
• Sanitize Weekly: Clean feeders and baths with a weak disinfectant (or specialized bird-safe cleaner) and rinse thoroughly.
• Clear the Debris: Sweep up dropped food and old husks daily to prevent ground rot.
• Rotate Stations: Move your feeders around the garden to prevent pathogens from building up in one specific patch of soil.
• Freshness Matters: Only put out enough food for one or two days to ensure nothing sits around getting damp.
The "Mealworm Myth"
A common but misguided "fix" is swapping bird seed for dried mealworms. This is not a balanced staple diet. Dried mealworms have an inverted calcium-to-phosphorus ratio.
When growing chicks are fed a diet heavy in dried mealworms, it can lead to Metabolic Bone Disease, causing fractures, deformities, and immense suffering. Replacing proper nutrition with "crunchy nonsense" is not an act of kindness—it's a nutritional disaster.
The Bottom Line
Wild birds deserve better than watered-down advice dressed up as expertise. We must look at the bigger picture: our gardens are often the only "islands" of resources left for them.
The Golden Rule: If you see a localized outbreak of sick birds in your immediate area, then you should temporarily remove feeders to encourage the birds to disperse. Otherwise, the message is simple:
Keep feeding, but do it properly. Fresh food, fresh water, and a clean environment are the only ways to support birds through the risk of Trichomoniasis without starving them in the process. Be honest: are your feeders a five-star restaurant or a health hazard? It’s time to clean up our act.”

I have bought some brand new feeders and thrown away my old ones, and I’m going to fill them every couple of days. I already move them regularly, and have bought some sanitiser to clean them with. I am going with increased care and cleanliness and fewer feeders, rather than stopping completely

I'm disinclined to take science advice from anyone who doesn't know the difference between trichomonosis, a recently-emerged disease of finches, and trichomoniasis, a long-established sexually-transmitted infection in humans.

FairViewRosie25 · 14/04/2026 20:46

I’m still feeding. Mealworms, suet pellets and sunflower hearts. Have window feeders I’m washing every day and refilling

italianlondongirl · 14/04/2026 20:46

HoraceCope · 11/04/2026 08:55

there are signs up normally at ponds saying do not feed bread.
use the right food for ducks

And yet in the 1970s the ducks fed on bread on a daily basis in our local park lasted for YEARS! ( And I knew them as a child by their individual markings)
Obviously they had access to pond weed etc

daisychain01 · 14/04/2026 20:54

ThatFairy · 10/04/2026 23:38

Oh, just feed them

Absolutely!

I keep our bird feeders scrupulously clean. we try to balance seed with other foods like apple and banana chopped up small,

We had a lovely little robin bouncing along our border yesterday full of the joys of Spring because I'd put a load of bark chips down which were full of worms and it was joyful to see him.

LughLongArm · 14/04/2026 21:02

LameBorzoi · 11/04/2026 07:59

If you really want birds, plant local plants, minimise pesticides and herbicides, and keep cats out.

Any advice on keeping cats out, anyone? I’m making a garden from scratch and planting bird-friendly things, but my garden seems to be a through-route for all the neighbourhood cats.

SharonEllis · 14/04/2026 21:03

daisychain01 · 14/04/2026 20:54

Absolutely!

I keep our bird feeders scrupulously clean. we try to balance seed with other foods like apple and banana chopped up small,

We had a lovely little robin bouncing along our border yesterday full of the joys of Spring because I'd put a load of bark chips down which were full of worms and it was joyful to see him.

How often do you clean them?

Ileithyia · 15/04/2026 17:48

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 14/04/2026 20:35

I'm disinclined to take science advice from anyone who doesn't know the difference between trichomonosis, a recently-emerged disease of finches, and trichomoniasis, a long-established sexually-transmitted infection in humans.

Wow, that is a hell of a typo! Blush

SingtotheCat · 15/04/2026 23:17

Scrowy · 10/04/2026 23:44

You mean with bird friendly plants as advised in the link?

Bird feeders full of peanuts are the bird equivalent of a really filthy McDonalds

Chickhood obesity! Shock

SingtotheCat · 15/04/2026 23:20

Not sure I can’t be arsed cleaning bird feeders. Shall I put them in the dishwasher or shall I just chuck (see what I did there?)them and get new ones?
I know, I won’t really put them in the dishwasher, but I can’t be arsed with chiseling hard bird shit of a feeder with the butter knife!

SharonEllis · 16/04/2026 08:49

SingtotheCat · 15/04/2026 23:20

Not sure I can’t be arsed cleaning bird feeders. Shall I put them in the dishwasher or shall I just chuck (see what I did there?)them and get new ones?
I know, I won’t really put them in the dishwasher, but I can’t be arsed with chiseling hard bird shit of a feeder with the butter knife!

If you buy new ones you'll still have to clean them all the time if you put seeds in. For suet probably weekly is ok. But cleaning feeders is not new advice. You should have been cleaning them regularly anyway, and moving them around regularly as a matter of course. If your feeders are in such a state that you've been chiselling hard bird food off them you've been endangering the birds for a long time.

CrotchetyQuaver · 16/04/2026 12:02

I stopped feeding the birds a very long time ago after I saw rats helping themselves to the bird food. The birds are still here amusing themselves and fiddling about in my garden even without the all you can eat buffet. Not feeding them really isn't the end of everything

CarolinaLiar · 16/04/2026 12:13

My husband is still feeding them.

Monolithique · 17/04/2026 00:14

DH is the bird feeder of our house.
He takes the RSPB very seriously, so he will cease feeding the birds until November.

GhoulWithADragonTattoo · 17/04/2026 00:46

This reminds when people were told not to feeds ducks with bread and the number of feeding them when down markedly and now feeding anything is better than nothing as they were underfed…

daisychain01 · 17/04/2026 06:20

SharonEllis · 14/04/2026 21:03

How often do you clean them?

My bird feeder has a mesh tray for chopped fruit which I hose down every weekend because they'll eat a chopped apple or pear within a day. The nut and seed feeders I just keep an eye on them, when I'm out on the patio, as it involves dismantling the units and sanitising them, so I can see if the other food in there is in good condition. Through the winter they need more cleaning because the rain and elements degrade the food more than in the summer. Through the summer I don't tend to fill up the seed hoppers just because it's better for the birds to find their own food sources, and there are lots of options in our garden.

With the mealy worms, I just throw a handful of them in the border when I see the robins are about and they grub around and pick up a few worms at the same time, with the blackbirds.

SharonEllis · 17/04/2026 06:47

daisychain01 · 17/04/2026 06:20

My bird feeder has a mesh tray for chopped fruit which I hose down every weekend because they'll eat a chopped apple or pear within a day. The nut and seed feeders I just keep an eye on them, when I'm out on the patio, as it involves dismantling the units and sanitising them, so I can see if the other food in there is in good condition. Through the winter they need more cleaning because the rain and elements degrade the food more than in the summer. Through the summer I don't tend to fill up the seed hoppers just because it's better for the birds to find their own food sources, and there are lots of options in our garden.

With the mealy worms, I just throw a handful of them in the border when I see the robins are about and they grub around and pick up a few worms at the same time, with the blackbirds.

Trouble us you can't see germs so keeping an eye on the seed feeders is not going to help. You only need one infected bird. Edited to add. But if you're going to stop using those over the summer that is following the advice

Phyllisdelphia · 26/04/2026 18:18

Yes, a landlord entering your garden without permission to remove your personal property (bird feeders) is likely a breach of your right to "quiet enjoyment" of your property.
LettingaProperty.com +1
In the UK, the right to quiet enjoyment is an implied term in all tenancy agreements, meaning you have the right to live in your home—including the garden—without unannounced or unnecessary interference from the landlord.
LettingaProperty.com +1
Here is a breakdown of why this is likely a breach:

  • Unauthorised Access: Landlords must give at least 24 hours' written notice before accessing any part of the property (including the garden), and you must give your permission for them to enter. Entering without consent is considered trespassing and a violation of quiet enjoyment.
  • Removal of Items: Removing your personal property (bird feeders) constitutes further interference with your use of the property.
  • Harassment: If these entries are unannounced, repeated, or designed to interfere with your comfort, it can be considered harassment.
  • LettingaProperty.com +4
What You Can Do:
  1. Document everything: Record the dates and times the landlord entered and take photos of the missing feeders.
  2. Send a formal letter/email: Remind the landlord of your right to quiet enjoyment, state that they are breaching this right, and request that they stop entering without permission.
  3. Check your tenancy agreement: Look for any clauses regarding the garden. While they might restrict certain types of bird feeding (if it causes damage or sanitation issues), they do not entitle the landlord to trespass or remove property without notice.
  4. Contact local authorities: If the behaviour continues, you can contact your local council's private renting team, as this may constitute illegal harassment.
  5. Hiscox UK +4
Disclaimer: This information is based on general UK law (specifically England and Wales) and does not constitute legal advice. You should seek independent advice from a solicitor or housing charity like Shelter.
Tontostitis · 26/04/2026 18:34

I have far more birds now than ever before and it's because I stopped feeding 'birds'. I was actually encouraging a large pigeon colony with my lovely feeders and that colony was decimating trees and berry bushes other birds could enjoy. My Merlin App shows a far greater variety visiting now I focus on flowers shrubs and trees that song birds and insects love. I have a little bee friendly plot and that gets lots of attention. I still lose cherries to the now shrinking pigeon army and the squirrels dig up bulbs but that's ok. I think feeding birds is counterproductive and has been sold to us by garden centres as a money making exercise.

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