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Help with Border!

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Nottodaythankyou123 · 12/02/2025 21:00

Hi all

I’m an incredibly novice gardener, and have a border at the back of my garden (10m x 3m) which I have no idea what to do with.

I keep looking at lists of plants and shrubs and climbers and I’m honestly just baffled.

I can’t be dealing with anything requiring loads of maintenance, so I’m looking for relatively low maintenance (nothing that needs potting in a shed over winter) but that gives some colour and coverage all year round.

For context the garden is south facing but the border is adjoining a wall at the back and is always fairly shady.

If anyone could give me any tips that would be much appreciated!

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myvolvohasavulva · 13/02/2025 17:27

Not sure if it's been mentioned but it's just the beginning of 'seed swap' season (depending where you are in the country) often lots of donated seeds for free, sometimes plants too and plenty of gardeners who'd be keen to share their wisdom. Worth a google for seed swaps (happy to dig out links if that doesn't work). Might be a nice way to scatter some annuals (one season plants) so that you can buy yourself time to add more permanent planting.

Nottodaythankyou123 · 13/02/2025 18:21

I think part of my problem, as a PP has mentioned, is that I want instant gratification - I want to plant some plants now, they’ll grow by the end of spring and voila I’ll have a beautiful perfectly formed border. It would appear that those beautiful gardens take a little more time than that!

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biggreenapple24 · 13/02/2025 18:52

Instant gratification absolutely, and think worth setting some expectations on cost.

Those Sarah Raven borders feel expensive as it's a big outlay, but £200 for 48x 9cm isn't bad IMO, especially when it comes with the planting plan.

If your budget is smaller then seeds are a much more cost effective route, but take loads longer.

But I hear you OP! I too want Pinterest worthy borders, and I want them now, and I want them to cost £3.50 😂

Nottodaythankyou123 · 13/02/2025 19:13

biggreenapple24 · 13/02/2025 18:52

Instant gratification absolutely, and think worth setting some expectations on cost.

Those Sarah Raven borders feel expensive as it's a big outlay, but £200 for 48x 9cm isn't bad IMO, especially when it comes with the planting plan.

If your budget is smaller then seeds are a much more cost effective route, but take loads longer.

But I hear you OP! I too want Pinterest worthy borders, and I want them now, and I want them to cost £3.50 😂

Yeah, I agree with the cost - it’s similar to getting Hello Fresh when you could buy the ingredients cheaper but they give you the right amount and the recipes and generally idiot proof it.
I think having pondered it may be worth paying more for the convenience than winging it myself and inevitably having to rebuy and spend more than if I’d just used her collection in the first place!

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Yamadori · 13/02/2025 19:38

If you have one long border like that, you need it to give you something all year round. So you need permanent structural planting, like a couple of evergreen shrubs, a couple of flowering shrubs, maybe one spring-flowering and one that flowers in the summer, and maybe one that has lovely berries or the leaves go an amazing colour in the autumn. Then you can buy perennial flowering plants bit by bit for in between, and while they and the shrubs are getting bigger, you can plant summer bedding plants, or scatter seeds everywhere as fillers. You don't have to spend a lot at all.

One thing to remember @Nottodaythankyou123 is that gardening is a four-dimensional hobby. Not only do you need to think of height, depth and width, you also need to plan for time. Lovely mature gardens take years. Part of the pleasure of gardening is watching it all grow over the years and come together.

AlmostCutMyHairToday · 13/02/2025 19:40

I'm going through the same OP! Total novice, trying to figure out what to plant in a (much smaller) border. Head spinning!
I found it useful to go to the garden centre to just browse, and take pics of what I like. And browse on nursery websites (Hayloft / Jackson Nurseries / Knoll Gardens).
Then I've saved the ones I like to two Pinterest boards - one for Evergreens and one for Hardy Perennials. I find it easier to look at all the options visually, then narrow them down from there. (I also have a nerdy spreadsheet, but that's just me lol)

I read a nice quote which was something like 'think about the places in nature that you love, and have nice memories of, and let that be the inspiration for your garden'.

Koulibiak · 13/02/2025 20:12

@biggreenapple24 don’t we all 😂

@Nottodaythankyou123 , the reality is that herbaceous perennial borders take time and work to get right. Unless you’re prepared to pay a lot of money for mature plants and shrubs, and to buy a lot of them, you have to accept that it will take years for them to grow and form a planting mass.

The way I go about it is to do it in stages, starting with the structure - ie trees and shrubs - in the first year. Some shrubs grow very vigorously. Even a small fatsia japonica will grow to five or six foot tall in one season, and the evergreen leaves are beautiful. If you plant 3 of them at intervals in your border, you will enjoy them growing all spring and summer long. I would do the same with hydrangeas, skimmias, pachysandra, sambucus nigra black lace and daphnes - all these shrubs are happy in shade (or part shade) and are not fussy about soil. They will give you lots of different foliage colours and shapes to make your future perennial flowers pop. Plant the ones that grow tall (fatsia, sambucus), at the back, and the ones that are more petite (skimmia, pachysandra) towards the front.

If possible, try and buy shrubs that are larger than the smallest, 9cm pots, or you may have a shock when you get delivered a box of twiglets 😮.

You may also want to add some Japanese maples (acer palmatum), as a lot of them don’t like too much sun.

B&Q often have a good stock of good sized trees and shrubs at reasonable prices.

I would also add some ferns, because I love them - they’re not expensive and look dreamy in a shady border.

Then you can sit back and admire your work - your work is done for the year. Anything else you decide to plant this year is icing on the cake. Maybe buy a few packs of impatiens or begonias and fill some gaps - they both do well in the shade.

Now you have a year to leaf through catalogues and watch YouTube and decide what perennial flowers you want to plant next year.

Remember also that planting is rarely permanent. Obviously you’re not going to want to move mature oak trees, but gardeners are always moving things around in their gardens - if something isn’t right in its location, dig it up and move it somewhere else (or offer it to neighbours). So you don’t need to worry about making mistakes - it’s all part of the process.

The only thing I would avoid is any plants that are susceptible to slugs and snails, like hostas. It’s a bit heartbreaking when a plant gets razed to the ground.

Koulibiak · 13/02/2025 20:14

Or just what @Yamadori said, more succinctly and eloquently 😂

Nottodaythankyou123 · 13/02/2025 20:35

Koulibiak · 13/02/2025 20:14

Or just what @Yamadori said, more succinctly and eloquently 😂

Haha the detail is very helpful don’t worry!!

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Yamadori · 13/02/2025 20:41

Koulibiak · 13/02/2025 20:14

Or just what @Yamadori said, more succinctly and eloquently 😂

Too kind!😁

Another thing to remember, OP and others, is that when you buy online they tell you the size of the pot the plant comes in, not the size of the plant, which is probably a tiddler.

Labraradabrador · 13/02/2025 20:59

You could also probably source the plants yourself from a garden centre - most of them aren’t particularly unusual, and would have the added bonus of being able to select healthy plants and minimising transport time.

lots of herbaceous perennials will grow absolutely massive in just one season so you don’t really need bigger plants- it is amazing how much volume they produce in such a short amount of time. We completely replaced our borders last year and everything we planted was teeny tiny, but it really filled out by the end of the summer. Some plants like Roses and peonies will need some time to establish, but the salvias and Achillea were lush in the first year.

ipredictariot5 · 13/02/2025 21:23

I started gardening as a novice in 2020. I love the mixed herbaceous perennial border look. some things I have learnt:
if you find a garden centre that sells plants to grow on you can save a fortune - 10 pots for £40 whereas 8 weeks later you would get 4 of the same plant.
do not buy too many different plants, work out what grows well and then put in lots of it - always plant in 3s/5s so you get the best look.
somethings just won't grow. lupins get eaten and hollyhocks get rust in my garden but I waste money and the same happens year on year
dahlias are fantastic for sept/oct even early November but need staking and I always do it too late
fennel grows like wildfire and is tall and wavy and fills gaps until other plants come through when you can cut it back. I find salvia is the same
annuals like cosmos and strawflowers are super easy to grow and provide colour and height for weeks. cosmos from garden centres never as good as ones I grow from seed
Bare root roses can be planted now and. I placed a few of these round the borders, I didn't know that not all roses are scented so only buy these now
put in tons of bulbs in autumn - daffs/tulips/irises/alliums come sequentially March/April/May
plant catnip if you have a cat - keeps them off everything else
Hostas are my favourite plants but unless you can be on 24/7 snail/slug duty save yourself a lot of ££
and read up what butterflies/bees/insects like and plant those. watching them enjoy your borders is bliss

AlmostCutMyHairToday · 13/02/2025 21:33

@ipredictariot5 I love cosmos. Do you start your seeds indoors then plant out? Or is it easy to just plant directly in the ground when its spring? Wasnt sure if the slugs will eat up the little shoots

ipredictariot5 · 13/02/2025 23:12

AlmostCutMyHairToday · 13/02/2025 21:33

@ipredictariot5 I love cosmos. Do you start your seeds indoors then plant out? Or is it easy to just plant directly in the ground when its spring? Wasnt sure if the slugs will eat up the little shoots

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yes start inside but have just sown directly other years and they have been just as good

AnxiouslyAwaitingSpring · 14/02/2025 01:16

Here you go op, a selection of ready made borders! www.gardenonaroll.com

EBearhug · 14/02/2025 01:22

I would plant some snowdrops in the green (I.e. live plants) now and perhaps a couple if hellebore for winter interest. Then in autumn, I'd plant loads of spring bulbs. The first flowers in spring are so important.

Lurkingandlearning · 14/02/2025 02:48

Nottodaythankyou123 · 12/02/2025 23:11

@AndThereSheGoes I haven’t even heard of half of them - the sheer choice is so overwhelming I start googling and immediately just panic 😂😅

@Borris thank you; I didn’t consider just putting them in pots for now 🤦🏼‍♀️ it all adds up doesn’t it?! Trying to do it on a budget and getting sidetracked my incredible Pinterest boards

The choices still overwhelm me after many years. I think I just haven’t made enough effort to learn about plants- the what, where and why.

I’m in the south so my choices have been whittled down to drought resistant plants as watering the garden every day during what now seems to be an annual heat wave sends my water bill through the roof.

If you are in the south you might want to do the same.

Nottodaythankyou123 · 14/02/2025 06:30

AnxiouslyAwaitingSpring · 14/02/2025 01:16

Here you go op, a selection of ready made borders! www.gardenonaroll.com

Perfect! Although at £530 not cheap 😬

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Harrysmummy246 · 14/02/2025 13:13

Nottodaythankyou123 · 12/02/2025 23:11

@AndThereSheGoes I haven’t even heard of half of them - the sheer choice is so overwhelming I start googling and immediately just panic 😂😅

@Borris thank you; I didn’t consider just putting them in pots for now 🤦🏼‍♀️ it all adds up doesn’t it?! Trying to do it on a budget and getting sidetracked my incredible Pinterest boards

Sorry to only just get to reading- RHS exam yesterday had far more of my time than I'd have liked.
I help gardeners design their borders based on garden and budget, whether local to me or not. Often, with a new build, the 'soil' is very poor so it's worth having a dig and a look into improving that before spending on plants. It will be very possible to build a shaded border that looks good all year round and in a way that, with a bit of time, doesn't have to be so costly
If you want to drop me a DM, feel free.

Harrysmummy246 · 14/02/2025 13:13

Nottodaythankyou123 · 14/02/2025 06:30

Perfect! Although at £530 not cheap 😬

For a 30m2 border, that really isn't too bad at all. But it is an all in one go expense.

Harrysmummy246 · 14/02/2025 13:15

AlmostCutMyHairToday · 13/02/2025 21:33

@ipredictariot5 I love cosmos. Do you start your seeds indoors then plant out? Or is it easy to just plant directly in the ground when its spring? Wasnt sure if the slugs will eat up the little shoots

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Slugs most certainly will, especially if it is as wet as last summer
My 1000s of bedding cosmos for sale at work were frequently very slimy and nibbled

JaninaDuszejko · 14/02/2025 13:44

If the flowerbed is raised I'd be tempted just add a layer of compost then mix together some annual seeds, plant in rows and enjoy the show*. That gives you time to plan the bigger plants. You can still get bare root perennials between now and the end of March but waiting till next winter and playing with low cost seeds is a reasonable first year. Although as a PP said, buying three trees now is a good plan too.

The border being shady provides a useful restriction on what will grow well there.

*Assuming you use either slug pellets or nematodes.

PixieandDelilahsmum · 14/02/2025 14:00

I would go for shrubs against the wall/fence to give a nice backdrop that would have year-round interest. My favourites are: Viburnum, Rhododendron, Bay (does not flower but lovely all year round), Camellia (prefers shade, very slow growing), Photinia Red Robin (lovely shades of green and red all year round), Hebe (check size as some do not grow very tall) and Hydrangea (again, check size as some do not grow that tall). Then in front of the shrubs you can just add some smaller herbaceous perennials, bulbs, bedding plants as you fancy. I have owned a garden for many years and I find that it is really trial and error as to what grows and what works. If there is a local market nearby, there might be a plant seller, I find these are the best places to buy shrubs etc..

Something else that I have had in a garden is this kind of idea which I LOVE but needed maintenance!: https://uk.images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;ylt=Awriid4KTK9naX8Iv49NBQx.;ylu=c2VjA3NlYXJjaARzbGsDYnV0dG9u;ylc=X1MDMjExNDcxNzAwNQRfcgMyBGZyA21jYWZlZQRmcjIDcDpzLHY6aSxtOnNiLXRvcARncHJpZANzc1dFWUc5ZlJpLlNIbnI5NVdCVTNBBG5fcnNsdAMwBG5fc3VnZwM5BG9yaWdpbgN1ay5pbWFnZXMuc2VhcmNoLnlhaG9vLmNvbQRwb3MDMARwcXN0cgMEcHFzdHJsAzAEcXN0cmwDMjkEcXVlcnkDdHJlZSUyMGZlbmNlJTIwcGFsbGlzYWRlJTIwcGxhbnRpbmcEdF9zdG1wAzE3Mzk1NDE1NjE-?p=tree+fence+pallisade+planting&fr=mcafee&fr2=p%3As%2Cv%3Ai%2Cm%3Asb-top&ei=UTF-8&x=wrt&type=E210GB1357G0#id=3&iurl=https%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2Foriginals%2F40%2F90%2F8d%2F40908db538616f0b439b07456335b8ed.jpg&action=click

EmmaMaria · 14/02/2025 14:01

How about these? They are called Ted's Trump. Sorry, couldn't resist it when I saw that you wanted help with your Borders!!!

Help with Border!
GreenCandleWax · 14/02/2025 14:12

Get an idea of what type of soil you have. If it is alkaline plants that like an acid soil will never do well, and vice versa. You can get a cheap soil testing kit. Or look at neighbouring gardens and see the common plants in your neighbourhood - rhododendron, azaleas and heathers are acid-lovers, for example. There is lots of advice online about plant choices for different environments, including BBC Gardeners World, etc.🌺