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Bee friendly weed & feed for lawns?

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HuminaHuminaHumina · 14/04/2024 20:10

Is there one? I can find bee friendly lawn feeder and bee friendly path weed killer but not a weed and feed for lawns. Actually I’d settle for just a weed killer for lawns. I’ve tried avoiding weed killers altogether but now my lawn is getting to be mostly daisy, creeping buttercups, dandelions and moss! There is just too much for me to be able to dig out. Any suggestions/recommendations?
TIA.

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ungarden · 16/04/2024 16:21

@HuminaHuminaHumina I do wish there was another solution but it was completely out of control, I'm not even particularly lawn proud - it looks scruffy and unkept, I might as well have finished it off with a fridge in my front garden.

Sewfrickinamazeballs · 16/04/2024 17:59

ErrolTheDragon · 16/04/2024 15:21

I don't know how it distinguishes the weeds from the grass, I admit.

I think some selective weed killers kill dicot plants but not monocots (which includes all grasses). How, I don't know but they're the two big fundamental plant types.

This looks like a good source of info/ideas

www.rhs.org.uk/lawns/selecting-weedkillers

Correct. Herbicide target specific enzymes in plants, which can be highly specific to grasses or dicots or just to a few plants.

Also, in response to another poster. Glyphosate has not been classified as carcinogenic. In fact, the EU has just extended its registration. A few law suits in the US which triggered a response from WHO did not change its classification.

HuminaHuminaHumina · 17/04/2024 09:09

I might as well have finished it off with a fridge in my front garden.
😂
@ungarden Thats kind of the vibe I feel my garden gives too!

Thank you @PuppetQueen I will look into those products.

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ErrolTheDragon · 17/04/2024 09:19

I've just remembered that decades ago in our first house, DH got fed up with the invasion of the front lawn by speedwell. The selective weedkiller didn't seem to be making much of an impact so he doused it and the surrounding area in something like glyphosate (actually, back then it might have been something worse that's now banned). Got rid of the debris, reseeded etc.... the speedwell was back and thriving before the grass recovered.

He has more sense nowadays!

DrNo007 · 23/04/2024 14:04

@Sewfrickinamazeballs what you say about glyphosate not being classed as carcinogenic is false. In 2015 the IARC ( cancer research arm of WHO) classified glyphosate as a probable human carcinogen. They even published their verdict in The Lancet. It makes interesting reading. They had no doubt about its carcinogenicity in lab rodents, accepted in regulatory circles as a model for human carcinogenicity. Yes regulatory agencies have continued to reapprove it but almost every decision of this nature has been strongly opposed by independent health and scientific groups.

The IARC classification has been used as the basis for many lawsuits in the US brought by cancer sufferers who blame Roundup (glyphosate based) for their illness. The verdict in several high profile cases has gone with the plaintiffs and Bayer (manufacturer of glyphosate herbicide) is on its knees with liabilities and debt as a result. Not sure how you could have missed these scandals— they have got a lot of press coverage.

DrNo007 · 23/04/2024 14:09

The knock on effects of the Roundup cancer litigation here in the UK is that several garden centres and supermarkets have removed Roundup from their shelves and several councils no longer use it. You can now buy ‘Roundup’ based on acetic acid instead of glyphosate. Top tip: if you want to use weed killer (we don’t), just use vinegar, which contains acetic acid, works fine, and is a lot cheaper.

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