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2025 A Level Results Day and Sept Uni Starters - All Welcome

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SlightlyJaded · 25/07/2025 22:26

I couldn't see board specifically dedicated to results day for our DC who have sat A levels this spring. And I know some of us STILL have questions about Uni starters.

DS has Liverpool as his first choice and Notts Trent as his insurance - both to study History. Anyone who recognises me from previous boards might remember the hell we went through with DD a couple of years ago, so DS has applied quite a lot of caution to his choices - perhaps too much, perhaps not enough. Neither of us have any idea what to expect with his results. He has genuinely fluctuated between a D and an A in some of his mocks....

I still haven't done anything about accommodation which is one of the reasons I am starting this thread.

But mostly, it's for nail biting, relief, tears, support, advice and all the other things needed to get us through the next few weeks.

Welcome :)

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SheilaFentiman · 10/08/2025 17:53

@NCTDN your DS can call other unis and see if he can get a verbal offer that suits him better. He won’t have a clearing ID until he declines his insurance but he should be able to understand the possibilities. There’s a good video for parents on UCAS about this

TheLivelyViper · 10/08/2025 17:55

NCTDN · 10/08/2025 17:43

Im sure I should know this but I need to check:
If ds misses his form but gets his insurance, if he wants to look at clearing options does he need to reject the insurance to start the process? Don’t want him to lose the insurance then not get the preferred clearing option either.
Also if a remark was requested, does the uni of their firm choice have to accept them if grades change?

He can contact and call or do online forms for universities in clearing to register interest pre-results day (just means they'll send him emails on the day with any changes in the clearing grades they want) but he won't be able to confirm a place till be rejects insurance. I recommend pre-results day looking at unis in clearing and their grade requirements have a list of ones you want to contact first. Also have UCAS number and GCSE grades available as they may want to know them.

If a remark is requested, call or email the firm uni or insurance and ask them to hold the place (many will or they'll try to, but you'll need to be quick) - they can tell you whether if the grade does go up they'll accept him or not. It will depend on the offer so if he needs AAA and an A in Chemistry if the gets ABB but you're getting 2 subjects remarked and one goes up so now it's AAB but his 2nd B doesn't go up and it's in Chemistry they may still reject him on that basis. Hope that makes sense

WombatChocolate · 10/08/2025 21:46

If there’s a review of marking and then the offer is met, they must take him. BUT it can be that they can only offer a place for the following year. This is more likely if more time has passed. That’s why priority re-mark, requested on day of results, after consultation with teachers so grade boundaries can be checked against and best paper chosen for re-mark, is good idea.

Re Clearing, anyone can ring round and receive offers over the phone. You ask for email confirmation. Only then do you release yourself via UCAS from your insurance. Once that’s done the insurance place is gone. You then put your new offer into UCAS as a Clearibg place and the Uni will make it unconditional. Important not to release the insurance until you’re sure about taking a Clearing offer and have an email confirming it. Remember to ask for clarification about position re accommodation with Clearibg place and ask for that to be confirmed in email too.

More people could ‘trade up’ than do. News suggests it will be a ‘buyers market’ this year so lots will be available in Clearing at maybe surprisingly low grade offers. But many won’t want to consider trading up if they get accepted at their Firm or Insurance, as it’s more unknown and involves a shift in thinking. Fair enough. But for some who maybe are a bit more opportunistic, it can offer a great opportunity that wasn’t open to them in the main application round. Worth considering though.

SheilaFentiman · 10/08/2025 22:00

@WombatChocolate If the firm requires a re-mark but the insurance would be ok without one, will the insurance wait for the re-mark?

tortoise18 · 10/08/2025 22:01

In the hypothetical situation of missing the firm offer narrowly but getting a priority remark, while hitting the insurance offer, what do you do? If you accept the insurance will the firm disappear? Or do you do nothing and the insurance is still there at the end of August if the remark doesn't change any grades?

TheLivelyViper · 10/08/2025 22:06

tortoise18 · 10/08/2025 22:01

In the hypothetical situation of missing the firm offer narrowly but getting a priority remark, while hitting the insurance offer, what do you do? If you accept the insurance will the firm disappear? Or do you do nothing and the insurance is still there at the end of August if the remark doesn't change any grades?

Contact and call both choices and explain see what they say. I'd likely think the firm will offer a hold on the place and insurance will also have a hold. If you accept one, you cannot go back to the other - except through clearing normally.

WombatChocolate · 10/08/2025 22:21

You Don’t usually do anything to accept the Firm or Insurance on UCAS.

So if you are declined by the Firm (and remember many places will accept a near miss anyway) you can make direct contact with them to tell them you’re putting in for priority remark and will be in touch in a few days if the mark goes up.

The uni websites tell you about sending them evidence of upgrade and then UCAS position can be changed to Unconditional for what was the original Firm.

In the meantime whilst waiting, the Insurance remains the unconditional offer. This will be the case until you have evidence of a higher grade that meets the old firm offer. You can hold off any communication with the Insurance whilst waiting. Or if you do have to fill in any forms etc, if you are re-graded they will release you anyway on a regrade.

The thing is, unis make a contract when they give you an offer and if you’ve firmed them they are obliged to take you if you meet their conditions, even if only on remark. So this also means the insurance must release you. In fact, the student is free to pull out of any of it if they wish to.

I guess the only thing you might want to be careful of is paying any accommodation money to the insurance whilst waiting for a review of marking. It’s unusual for there to be an immediate allocation of accommodation - usually takes a few days - and students are usually given a week to make the deposit payment anyway. It might be different with private accommodation, so you’d need to be a bit more careful.

Priority reviews put in for on Thursday if results day, have been known to come back before the weekend or more commonly on Monday or Tuesday. They go to the exam centre-school or college and the exam centre has to make the request. So if putting in, do ask the school or college if staff will be in daily and forwarding info about review results as they come in. Try to get a number and name of someone you can follow up with as you don’t want the review results languishing on an inbox of a college or school, but to quickly be passed to you.

Reviews of marking can be worth it if the mark seems v out of kilter with expectation, especially on one paper. It’s best only done if the student is close to the grade boundary above and not close to the one below, as the risk if marks going down and resulting in a lower grade, is clearly higher. Sometimes teachers will think there’s something analogous in the marking of the whole centre (if the centre has been marked by 1 marker - less common these days) and encourage several to put in for a review. But in the end the student must choose.

There is a cost - maybe around £75 for each paper for priority review as it’s turned round so fast. But it’s refunded if the grade changes. Most don’t, but a sizeable proportion do - maybe around 20%…usually because it tends to be those who really were expecting better and whose marks look odd who put in for reviews. General speculative reviews are less common because of cost and risk and if there were more, the success rate would probably be lower. But sadly marking isn’t foolproof.

SheilaFentiman · 10/08/2025 22:23

Thanks both, greatly helpful

tortoise18 · 10/08/2025 23:01

Thanks very much!

ipredictariot5 · 11/08/2025 13:57

does anyone know if Uni of Bath go into clearing? My son has offers for maths at Glasgow
but has latterly decided he wants to go
elsewhere just to make life harder !

SheilaFentiman · 11/08/2025 14:02

ipredictariot5 · 11/08/2025 13:57

does anyone know if Uni of Bath go into clearing? My son has offers for maths at Glasgow
but has latterly decided he wants to go
elsewhere just to make life harder !

AFAIK there are no Bath courses in clearing at the moment, but you can look on UCAS and filter by Clearing

NCTDN · 11/08/2025 14:16

Why don’t all clearing courses show grades? Do you need to go onto the individual university website to get them?

SheilaFentiman · 11/08/2025 14:29

@ipredictariot5 there will be further updates on UCAS Wed evening and Thu morning so worth checking Bath again then, but also worth looking for other places if he prefers.

@NCTDN not all unis list their clearing grades at the moment, even on their own sites. KCL, for example, advises you assume clearing grades will be the same as regular requirements.

SlightlyJaded · 11/08/2025 15:47

Another clearing question...

If DS misses his Firm and they don't make him an offer based on his actual grades, is it worth calling clearing about another similar course or would they have made the offer on UCAS.

For example, DS wants to do History. At the moment, History, History with Ancient History and History with Politics are showing in clearing on Liverpool website. If he doesn't get his History offer, should he assume that he also wouldn't get 'with Ancient' or 'with Politics' or is it worth a call?

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TheLivelyViper · 11/08/2025 15:50

SlightlyJaded · 11/08/2025 15:47

Another clearing question...

If DS misses his Firm and they don't make him an offer based on his actual grades, is it worth calling clearing about another similar course or would they have made the offer on UCAS.

For example, DS wants to do History. At the moment, History, History with Ancient History and History with Politics are showing in clearing on Liverpool website. If he doesn't get his History offer, should he assume that he also wouldn't get 'with Ancient' or 'with Politics' or is it worth a call?

Yes you could call - normally the admissions team will think of this though when rejecting - they may reject for History and Politics but offer History and Sociology at lower grade requirments. They like to find anyway to still have the student attend, but you can still call about if for sure.

fannieadams · 11/08/2025 18:01

ipredictariot5 · 11/08/2025 13:57

does anyone know if Uni of Bath go into clearing? My son has offers for maths at Glasgow
but has latterly decided he wants to go
elsewhere just to make life harder !

Does your son have FM as I think there is only 1 maths course that is available without FM? Also, worth looking at the joint honours courses. No clearing places at the moment. Similar grades is Durham who have places.

WombatChocolate · 11/08/2025 19:07

The best lace to look for Clearing places is the individual uni websites. They are most up to date.

Some won’t release info until Weds night or Thurs morning. What you see today might be different by Thurs morning. Unis are still deciding if to accept near misses and this trickles down to Insurance choices not knowing exact numbers either. But by today they have a much better idea of what might be available than they did last week.
But there’s also an element of marketing too in deciding when to release info too. You want people to be aware of you but not to seem desperate and willing to take everyone.

Limeandsoda2023 · 11/08/2025 20:20

uni of Manchester (which is my DD’s firm) have taken down their clearing site which was previously available and now it just says they will update on weds 13th. Having checked her course on there previously, it still had the same standard offer grades so I think they were touting for late applicants but hoping it also means they might be lenient.

SlightlyJaded · 11/08/2025 20:46

A lot of Uni sites are inviting you to 'browse our clearing courses' but whilst you can find the subject, it isn't showing grade requirements. UEA for example shows History is in clearing, but no idea how far they've shifted the boundary.

At this point, DS and I are trying to stop second guessing and just wait for Thursday. We have a short list of Uni/Courses/Hotlines and if need be, he will just have to work from the top down. And then when the dust has settled a bit and he has stopped hyperventilating, we can look at some of the left of field options.

I hate the time pressure though. For two years it's been 'Look at this / Look at that / visit here / consider us' and then suddenly it's like a bomb is going to explode if you don't press that bloody UCAS button. Not to mention the accommodation scramble...

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SheilaFentiman · 11/08/2025 20:53

@SlightlyJaded quite a lot of the unis I have seen do give a clearing accommodation guarantee and a timeline to apply by (some of the deadlines are Mon or Tue next week so at least the weekend to have a look at the possibilities)

But I agree about the rush on the course front being against prior “careful” approaches!

firefoxx · 11/08/2025 21:41

Can I join please?! Realise I should never have brought up ‘Thursday’ at dinner this evening.
I think no talking about results is key untill my poor ds gets them.
he needs a star a a for his ucl offer…

Phonicfail · 12/08/2025 08:14

Hi all, quick question to see if anyone in the same boat. My dc checked UCAS to print out their personal statement ready for possibility of clearing and there was an undate dated mid July regarding her insurance choice :

Congratulations! Your place at University of Anywhere for Any Course has been confirmed. You are guaranteed a place here if you do not meet the conditions of your firm choice.

Does that mean her insurance is now unconditional whatever the result on Thursday (it was conditional originally)? That’s how I would read this but I guess we will know for sure on Thursday! Good luck everyone

3bluellamas · 12/08/2025 08:45

Phonicfail · 12/08/2025 08:14

Hi all, quick question to see if anyone in the same boat. My dc checked UCAS to print out their personal statement ready for possibility of clearing and there was an undate dated mid July regarding her insurance choice :

Congratulations! Your place at University of Anywhere for Any Course has been confirmed. You are guaranteed a place here if you do not meet the conditions of your firm choice.

Does that mean her insurance is now unconditional whatever the result on Thursday (it was conditional originally)? That’s how I would read this but I guess we will know for sure on Thursday! Good luck everyone

Yes this means the insurance has turned unconditional

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