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The lowest of the low

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dorsetdame · 27/01/2025 01:50

The lowest of the low is how I feel tonight. I wanted to post my own thread in regards to the one that has just been delated.

It was actually a shock to me how so many people seemed to feel about foster carers. They think we "get paid well" - in my area less than £200 allowance for a primary age child and that allowance covers everything, big and small, that they need. No wages, just the allowance. But more than the (lack of) money having been a foster carer for over 30 years and having adopted 5 of them the replies really upset me. We usually care for the most damaged children or those with the most complex of needs and as 3 are still with us in their 20s (no longer in care of course) I hoped we weren't doing too bad a job. But the harsh and unfair criticism of foster carers I read truly makes me feel so bad. Maybe because it is late and I know I have to be up in less than 4 hours for the school run, But I am now wondering as I go through life do most people think this way about foster carers. That we are lazy and uncaring. Are most people thinking I am in it for the money (what money?) and think I am doing a bad job? I usually have broad shoulders but tonight I feel like giving it all up.

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dorsetdame · 27/01/2025 18:06

I have to say though, damaged children? Yikes. That's not the nicest phrase to use about an actual person.

Again I apologise but I meant that a child who has had to face abuse and neglect as a result of someone else's actions that I am trying to help them to heal from. Although having seen these children through to adulthood I realise that they can never completely heal, But we do our best together. Again I feel so terrible for offending strangers on a board but mainly if anyone has heard me say it in real life. I can assure you I will not use it again but I am now concerned at others things I may say or do that can be offensive. I will think deeply about there to go from here and thank you for bringing it to my attention.

I don't know you, but ignoring the reference to damaged children, you sound like a good person. I think the fact you've adopted five of your children and three are still with you in their 20s speaks volumes.

Thank you for your kind words. I am reassured that the children we have cared for on a long term basis has remained a special part of our family, and always will be.

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dorsetdame · 27/01/2025 18:11

To have foster/adoptive parents refer to kids in care as damaged feels really heartbreaking.

I wanted to apologise to you personally. I am rethinking everything right now and did not realise I was quite so ignorant. I will not use the word again and await advise on what word I should use instead for a child who has faced much abuse and lives with the consequences of that on a daily basis and has a huge affect on the person they are and who they will become.

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dorsetdame · 27/01/2025 18:17

I don't know anything about the payment foster carers receive, other than the multiple adverts that I regularly see popping up which suggests that you get £400+ for a child. I don't know why you only receive £200, but if other people have seen the same adverts as me, that would explain why they think you receive a lot more

Yes I have seen those advertisements too from private agencies. And you are correct. However my county council pays just under £200 allowance for those in primary school and £230 for those in senior school. It rises again at age 16. I won't say what county council it is (not Dorset that is where I am born) but it's just what it is here. It's hard financially as because of the needs of the children I cannot work so as our savings have dwindled in recent years we will not be able to continue for much longer, purely down to money.

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dorsetdame · 27/01/2025 18:21

NikKai · 27/01/2025 03:48

My son was in foster care as a baby as i had a nervous breakdown.

My sons foster carer did an amazing job and I adore her. She told me she couldn't have loved him more if he was her own, and it showed.

Thanks to her, when i got better i got my son back with no emotional (or otherwise) damage, and she set the thing up so when i got him back he was in a beautiful routine and happy. I followed her routine until me and my son grew into our own. I couldn't have done that alone.

We just spent Christmas day with her family (i don't have family or friends), see each other regularly, message often and i send her regular vids and pics of the mischief he causes haha.

She is not well paid. In fact i often pass her my sons outgrown clothes to save her costs.

But she is now a good friend, support, and most important - she is godmother to my son, who is now snoring next to me haha. That took a lot of trust my end, to christen him with her as stand in parent should anything happen to me. But i had no doubt i picked the perfect person, it wasnt even in question.

So from the other side, thank you for taking care of our babies when we cant ❤️

Oh you are so lovely. I am sorry you had to all go through what you did but so happy it worked out for the best. YOU are the reason I do what I do. You bought a tear to my eye and must be an absolutely wonderful mother. I wish you well!!!

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Princessconsuelabananahammock9 · 27/01/2025 18:28

I would just say a child who experienced trauma.

Ted27 · 27/01/2025 18:30

@dorsetdame
You do seem to be particularly badly paid. Do you claim universal credit?

It baffles me how people think foster carers are supposed to live.
Even if you had £400 a child, if you have one child, thats only £1600 a month.

I'm a foster carer and get considerably more than that, I do have some very tricky teenagers so am on an enhanced payment.

NikKai · 27/01/2025 19:09

dorsetdame · 27/01/2025 18:21

Oh you are so lovely. I am sorry you had to all go through what you did but so happy it worked out for the best. YOU are the reason I do what I do. You bought a tear to my eye and must be an absolutely wonderful mother. I wish you well!!!

It still feels strange to say kind things about myself as i am one of those children who were let down, excessive trauma (and personally have no issue with the word damaged- i was, and still am to some extent, damaged. In the literal sense of the word, my ability to cope, to grow normally, to be able to feel safe, to trust, to feel joy love and sadness safely, we're indeed all damaged. My adulthood as a result created a damaged individual emotionally) anyway had I had been put in foster care with someone like you, i may not have had such trauma.

Anyway my point is it feels strange to be kind enough to myself to admit that yes, i am an excellent mother. He saved my life and gave me a reason to not only live, but also to begin the healing process.

Without our foster lady, we wouldn't be where we are today. She loved him when i couldn't. She cared for him when i couldn't. She met his physical and emotional needs when i couldn't. She worked hard and handled her broken heart so beautifully for mine and my sons sake, so heroically, during the transition back to my care. She went above and beyond to introduce him back into my care when we went into a mother and baby unit. And above and beyond again in creating with all of us and professionals, a slow but needed visit schedule which eventually tapered off in order to lessen the shock for us both. Which was many two hour round trips to where we were out of her own pocket as not only are the payments low anyway, but she was no longer his foster carer so not getting paid these costs. She even brought her biological sons which made me feel so proud that she trusted me as im sure you know yourself not all mums in my situation are calm and safe. It meant a lot to me. They brought christmas presents and love.

Ill never forget the day, so early on, when i wasnt sure if i could do it. She told me she had made local authority aware that she will adopt him. I fell to the floor in relief, knowing that no matter what happened, he would go to a home where he was deeply loved.

She had us to her home with her family for Christmas. We have been on days out. She came to a little one year birthday party i had for my son at a soft play with her sons and a birthday gift. She asked me what he would like for Christmas and bought it.

All these costs add up. And she also has now a baby with down syndrome she is fostering so she has even more costs and nowhere near enough funding. All this for the love of my son. So anyone talking about people doing it for the money can get to fuck.

I have no friends and family. And so her pure and unconditional love, in her words "i couldn't have loved him more if he was my own", also meant that she gave my son what he has cruelly been deprived of due to a toxic "non" family i no longer have contact with. And that was the love of family, regardless of blood ties or lack of.

There's probably loads more i could say but i wanted to tell you all the things that women like you do for women like me and our babies.

From the other side, like i said, from big to small i can tell you that every decision you make, and care and love you give, means more than you will EVER know. Ever. And so, like you said, people like me and my son are the reason you do this. And for that reason i will offer you one piece of advice if i may.

Whatever anyone says negatively about foster carers, let it go over your head. Remember the stories of all those children and babies you loved. The ones you adopted. Remember my story. Remember why you are doing this. And fuck them. If they add nothing to your life, their opinions aren't worth a damn.

And for what it's worth, i wish i had been fostered or adopted by someone like you or my sons foster mum. Undoubtedly my life would have taken a much better turn with love, a lack of fear and violence, and kindness.

I wish you well xx

dorsetdame · 27/01/2025 19:27

Ted27 · 27/01/2025 18:30

@dorsetdame
You do seem to be particularly badly paid. Do you claim universal credit?

It baffles me how people think foster carers are supposed to live.
Even if you had £400 a child, if you have one child, thats only £1600 a month.

I'm a foster carer and get considerably more than that, I do have some very tricky teenagers so am on an enhanced payment.

No I don't claim any benefit. We also do not get enhanced payments either. I know some areas do and also other areas get bonuses for experience. But again that does not happen in the local authority in this county. It did when we lived and worked in another county though. I know all about tricky teenagers (understatement of the year!!)

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Ted27 · 27/01/2025 19:37

@NikKai

You are an amazing woman and mum.

It sounds like you have found your family and together you are giving your son a wonderful childhood.
I really think that if more women could do what you did and stop seeing social services as the enemy, a lot less children would need to be adopted.
Im both an adopter and now a foster carer. As much as I love my son and can't imagine life without him, I'm fully aware of the heartache at the centre of this.
I wish you all best for your future with your son and your family.

NikKai · 27/01/2025 19:45

Ted27 · 27/01/2025 19:37

@NikKai

You are an amazing woman and mum.

It sounds like you have found your family and together you are giving your son a wonderful childhood.
I really think that if more women could do what you did and stop seeing social services as the enemy, a lot less children would need to be adopted.
Im both an adopter and now a foster carer. As much as I love my son and can't imagine life without him, I'm fully aware of the heartache at the centre of this.
I wish you all best for your future with your son and your family.

This made me smile and means more than you know, thank you.

And i agree. During my time at the mother and baby unit, the amount of parents going on about how "the social worker hates me/is against me/is a liar" ad infinitum, drove me insane. I kept to myself away from them because i was fighting WITH services to get me and my baby home, with me well, him happy, and my parental responsibility reinstated. Which is what happened. Honesty, communication, calm criticism/ disagreements as sometimes happens, and following their advice, saved me. They werent my enemy. I just needed to get better and they helped with that and still are

dorsetdame · 28/01/2025 00:02

I gave a list of suggestions in my post. Your children may be wounded or injured or neglected or traumatized

Thank you very much for letting me know what I should say in future. I appreciate it.

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SecretSoul · 28/01/2025 07:43

@dorsetdame - I really admire you for coming back to this post and being so open to how others might be feeling. It’s not something we see on here very often and I genuinely want to say how refreshing it is.

Others have given their thoughts - I would have said children suffering from neglect or trauma, or those with more complex needs perhaps. Or traumatised children. But those are just my personal instincts, no idea if they’re the words that are professionally suggested.

Social workers don’t always get it right or keep up to date with current terminology. I’ve heard them reference children with “special needs” when we haven’t used that phrase for many years now. Ditto using low or high functioning labels for autistic children. And Asperger’s. I’ve got two autistic DC, one of whom has high care needs, so all of this does tend to hit quite close to home. I’m also autistic too.

It’s shocking how little you get paid. I think the much higher figures quoted by private fostering agencies are what people will hear about - it’s certainly the ballpark figure that I’ve heard bandied around. It feels a bit shocking to me that something like fostering can be handled by private agencies though! I’d have thought that something so sensitive and potentially open to corruption should always have been handled by local authorities rather than a private agency!!

Anyway, I do hope you’re feeling a bit better now and not so attacked. Poor foster carers unfortunately do exist but in no way do they reflect the big hearts of people like you.

SillySeal · 28/01/2025 13:57

I didn't see the post you are on about but the amount of people who think we make a lot of money from it is astonishing.

Even when ones pay £400 pw. Take into account £160 of that is for the child. So their food, clothing, shoes, activities, uniform, petrol to run them around, holidays, days out, toys, extra water/ electricity used especially if the little one has for example bed wetting.

It sounds a lot but even not getting expensive clothes, the children I've looked after tend to go through many more clothes than my bio children did. Not an issue but it is a cost. Also toys, my little one purposely breaks things every week. They have to be replaced. Then breaking household items comes out for this. Days out are expensive and so are holidays but we are expected and want to do them.

We then get the remained as "compensation" but I hate that work so let's say pay. £240 for upto 24/7 care. This is not a lot at all. Certainly not in comparison to a NMW job and definitely not that of any other professional involved in the case of the child.

I have time again thought about giving up as the cost of living makes it difficult to continue as I cannot work along side fostering. I'd work less hours, get days and weeks off and I would probably be less stressed but I don't because I love the children. I also (mostly) end up forming wonderful, relationships with the children's bio families.

Lazy is a funny one. Not heard that before. Why were carers called lazy? This has been my most mentally and physically exhausting job. However I do have children with additional and complex needs and no, I don't get paid more for that here and I don't get DLA.

I appreciate there are some carers who are not in it for the right reasons, same as adopters. It's awful and really down to the LA or IFA they are with. We have to meet the national standards and where we are we are heavily monitored to ensure the best for the children. It would be great if all LAs and agencies did the same.

Ted27 · 28/01/2025 15:03

@SillySeal

Why don't the children get DLA?

SillySeal · 28/01/2025 19:05

Ted27 · 28/01/2025 15:03

@SillySeal

Why don't the children get DLA?

It took almost 12 months for any professional to take me seriously and now it's an 8 month wait for DLA. They might have moved by that point as still going through proceedings.

dorsetdame · 28/01/2025 23:11

Thank you Secretsoul and Sillyseal for your kind and understanding words. I wish you both well. I should not be harsh on others, having a demanding week (social workers not children!!!) and it's all a bit much. Thank you, again!

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SillySeal · 29/01/2025 14:08

dorsetdame · 28/01/2025 23:11

Thank you Secretsoul and Sillyseal for your kind and understanding words. I wish you both well. I should not be harsh on others, having a demanding week (social workers not children!!!) and it's all a bit much. Thank you, again!

It does get too much sometimes. Everyone needs a break and sometimes other forget as carers we don't get one very often. I also totally understand what you mean about the stress from social workers. Sometimes they cause stress unnecessarily. I hope your week gets better. I'm sure you are doing a great job.

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