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Kinship placement not going well

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K37529 · 24/04/2022 23:34

Sorry this is going to be a long post. We started fostering my nephew 2.5 years ago and then got my niece a few months later ( she moved in with her dad after being removed from her mothers care but he basically abandoned her to go on a long binge and has had little contact since). We’re really struggling with my niece to the point we’re I don’t know if we can do it anymore. She fights me on every single thing and I don’t ask much I mean silly things like getting dressed, brushing her teeth, putting her coat on, every little thing becomes a big problem. I’d expect this from a much younger child but she is 11. She has a constant attitude and acts so entitled. Constantly complaining that we don’t do enough for her, don’t take her enough places, don’t buy her enough and I assure you she probably gets a lot more than most. She constantly complains that she doesn’t like the food I make but won’t tell me what she wants instead just says “not that” with an attitude. She completely changes the atmosphere of the house if she’s in a bad mood everyone is (and she usually is). She constantly picks on her brother everytime he speaks she tells him to shut up or calls him stupid annoying etc. i don’t know what to do anymore she is making life so hard. We don’t have any family who can help so me and my partner are basically on our own. Social services have been promising regular respite for both children since august but we’re still waiting. I’ve tried talking to her so many times but she just stares at the floor and says nothing, I’ve asked her if she wants to live here and she just says well where else am I going to go again with an attitude. There is no one else in my family who can take her so if things don’t work out here she will go into stranger foster care. I feel so conflicted I love her so much she is my niece and we had a really close relationship before all this happened, she has always been a difficult child but I was able to hand her back now I’m dealing with her 24/7 and we are so drained by it. She has been to play therapy which didn’t help, then went to a social worker who deals with trauma which didn’t help, after months of weekly sessions the social worker said that it was not working as she would not engage and referred her to cahms (or however it is spelt) before Christmas but we are still waiting for that and I doubt it will help because I know she won’t engage. Any ideas on how to deal with a difficult foster child? Or should we just give up? Part of me thinks that maybe she would be better of with someone else, someone who could give her all their attention (I have my own children and her brother so constant one on one time is not possible) but at the same time Im worried about where she’ll go, how she’ll be treated, that she’ll feel abandoned again etc

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K37529 · 25/04/2022 11:49

@LittleMissLego we were offered special guardianship for the children but turned it down because I felt like we needed the support of social services. So the way they explained it to us is Social services share custody of her with her mum and dad but that social services basically make the final decision.

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MrsLargeEmbodied · 25/04/2022 12:54

can you access AdCamhs?

K37529 · 25/04/2022 15:17

@MrsLargeEmbodied what is adcahms? I’ve googled it but nothings coming up

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MrsLargeEmbodied · 25/04/2022 15:27

adCamhs
for adopted children, but perhaps it is only available where I live
sorry for the confusion

Ponderingwindow · 25/04/2022 15:30

I’m not a foster expert at all, but as a parent, I would have to guess that this is probably the hardest age for a child to enter a family. It’s just such a transitional time for a child already and she has been through so much. If she weren’t having problems, I might actually be even more worried because it would mean she was hiding them, bottling them up so that they will explode some day. I don’t have a fix for you, except to say that moving her probably isn’t going to make her happier or give her a better outcome. You really are the best person for her, even if it is taking everything you have.

Ted27 · 25/04/2022 17:32

@K37529

Firstly you are dealing with an awful lot so please cut yourself some slack.
You've had lots of great advice about resources, PDA etc so I won't repeat.

I'm an adoptive mum - my son came to me what he was 8 so not too far off your experience.

What I would add is the relationship with your niece is the most important thing so pick your battles - think about whether something is really that important that it worth getting into a fight about.
Traditional parenting isn't going to work for her - she may or may not have PDA but some of the strategies and techniques may still be useful to you.
I think one of the hardest things with a child like this is working out what is the root cause of behaviour - is it her trauma or is she just being 11, lets face it what 11 year old girl doesn't find her brother annoying ( I had 3 - I still find them annoying!) And then there is the fact that trauma can amplify 'normal' behaviour.
Be very careful how you talk to her - asking her if she wants to live with you is quite confrontational - and what is she supposed to say, she knows what the alternative is and she may feel thats what you want. What she needs from you is empathy.
When my son was a similar age I did sit down with him and say - this isn't fair is it, its not fair what your mum did, what your dad did. It sucks but this is where we are. I love you and want to make it better, because we are all miserable now and I want us to be happy, I know you aren't angry with me but we need to work together to make things better.
Don't pressure here to come up with ideas to make it better but let her know that she has every right to be angry, sad and confused and that you need to help her find ways of expressing those emotions in a healthy way.
A couple of years is no time in the journey you are on with her, only you can decide if you want to do the time. For what its worth - you sound like an amazing, caring person who is doing a lot better than you think you are.

Finally - are you getting all the benefits you are entitled to - I'm thinking DLA in particular which opens up other benefits.

K37529 · 25/04/2022 19:37

Thanks @Ted27 and I know what your saying about by asking her if she wants to stay with us that she may feel that this is me suggesting I don’t want her here, but I didn’t mean it that way, I wasn’t saying it out of anger or anything it was a genuine question as I don’t want her to feel that she has to stay with us if she really does hates it here which is how she acts. I just want her to be happy and right now she is not. I feel so sorry for her (but also really frustrated by her behaviour). I just feel like I’ve done so much to prove to her that I want her here and it’s just constantly thrown back at me, I was pregnant with my second child when her dad walked away and I was having such a horrible pregnancy, but I still took her in. We also had to move house 3 times in one year because she moved in with us as our home was too small and while waiting for suitable accommodation we were moved into various temporary houses, doing all this while pregnant and dealing with the other children and her behaviour on top of it all nearly broke me but we kept going. I think she does want to be here and I also think that she does in her own way appreciate that we took her in, I don’t think she is angry at us, shes angry at her parents but as they are not here she has no one else to take it out on.

i have spoken to social services today and they have said that they will definitely get respite sorted for us and will call us again tomorrow. They also said they will chase up the cahms referral.

lots of really helpful suggests on here thanks everyone for your replies x

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Ted27 · 26/04/2022 15:00

@K37529
I do want to emphasise that this is not an easy thing you are doing. You will make mistakes, no parent is perfect. I still make mistakes with my son.
That ok, its also OK to let them know that you are sad or unhappy sometimes.
I'd also urge you to ignore the 'advice' of well meaning people who are not in the same position as you.
Its the relationships within your family that are important - not what other people think you should or shouldn't be doing

Ted27 · 26/04/2022 15:12

these may help

kinship.org,uk
frg.org.uk/get-help-and-advice/who/kinship-carers/

Janefx40 · 29/04/2022 08:15

@K37529 you sound like you are doing an amazing job. Through work, I know these resources from Beacon House on childhood trauma are amazing. Lots of them are infographics so not all long reads.

beaconhouse.org.uk/resources/

Wishing you well on this difficult journey xxx

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