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Don’t Abandon the Big Screen!

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MsAmerica · 13/03/2025 01:05

Sean Baker’s Oscars Battle Cry (and Mine): Don’t Abandon the Big Screen
The director of the best picture winner, “Anora,” urged viewers to keep seeing films in theaters. Our critic hopes the industry listens, and that Baker keeps his independence.
By Manohla Dargis

It was gratifying to see Baker win for “Anora,” which is the kind of scrappy, low-budget, independent movie that has been making the Oscars more interesting for, well, decades. Each victory for “Anora” also underscored the industry’s existential problems, in part brought about by large companies, including the remaining legacy studios, that have embraced expensive franchises and sequels to the exclusion of art. In the past 10 years or so, some of the best picture winners — the ones that stir up excitement and headlines, and help justify the continued existence of the Academy Awards — have been low-budget features that, like “Anora,” were bankrolled for $20 million or far less, including “Moonlight” and “Parasite.”

There’s a romantic and comforting underdog narrative that accompanies the success of these movies, though as Baker recently pointed out at the Independent Spirit Awards, the economics of indie filmmaking are unsustainable. During the Oscars, Baker again turned the awards circuit into a bully pulpit on behalf of the movies, urging viewers to see films in theaters. “This is my battle cry,” Baker said as he held his best director award. “Filmmakers, keep making films for the big screen.” At that point, the show cut to a wider shot that encompassed the award presenter Quentin Tarantino, another big-screen advocate. I wish they had cut to Ted Sarandos, the co-chief executive of Netflix, who recently told CBS News that he doesn’t “think it’s sacrilege for someone to watch a great movie on their phone.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/03/movies/sean-baker-oscars-speech.html

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Uoop · 13/03/2025 21:44

I never go to the cinema anymore, I love films but it’s too expensive but also the behaviour is awful most of the time, people on phones, people being disruptive. I ended up buying a cheap projector and screen and do the whole cinema vibe at home

MsAmerica · 14/03/2025 01:58

TheBrightJadeReader · 13/03/2025 02:28

But the issue is the quality atmosphere at the cinemas eg people making noise, then if u need the toilet u miss parts of the films etc

Oh, my goodness! I didn't expect more than a small handful of replies! What a surprise.

I choose my movies very carefully - not just the movie, but when to see it. I choose good movies, which have smaller audiences, and choose times which will have smaller audiences, so I don't often have to put up with annoyances from other people.

Funny about the toilet. Do you never do anything that requires you to stay in one place for two hours? Most people don't go to movies alone, though. Surely your seat-mate will tell you what you've missed?

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MsAmerica · 14/03/2025 02:01

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 13/03/2025 02:35

But the issue is the quality atmosphere at the cinemas eg people making noise

God yes, this.

I rarely go to the cinema any more, maybe a couple of times a year, but every single time I have been in the last five years there has been someone rustling and chomping their way through the entire movie so loudly you can hear them from ten rows away. If it's not some kid with a giant bag of crisps, it's somebody constantly raking around in a carton of popcorn. It's infuriating, and sadly it's even worse in the smaller cinemas I'd like to try and support than it is in the big chain places.

Well, as I just said, I tend to choose movies, and times, that will be less crowded.
Your use of "chomping," though reminded me of something from a long time ago. I was sitting by a young woman there alone - very nice person; we'd exchanged pleasantries while waiting. And she had popcorn. And partway into the movie, a man leaned over and hissed at her "Could we please chew with our mouth CLOSED?"

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MsAmerica · 14/03/2025 02:03

NotVeryFunny · 13/03/2025 02:37

Yes the last time I went to the cinema it was a nightmare with people making noise and going in and out repeatedly. It's also often really cold. If they want people to wait to go to the cinema they need to make it enjoyable!

I must say, I haven't run into people coming in and out much. Maybe Americans have stronger bladders? As to cold, I have sometimes run out and complained about the cold, and the management adjusts it.

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MsAmerica · 14/03/2025 02:05

LordBummenbachsMagnificentBalls · 13/03/2025 04:46

£16.99 per person to sit in a room with people talking, openly using their phones, overpriced food.., or wait a little while for it to appear on streaming for 12.99 to watch in the comfort of our home 🤔

Do irate moviegoers ever tell people with phones to shut up?
Do theaters you go to have on-screen admonitions for people to turn off their phones?

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MsAmerica · 14/03/2025 02:05

Nat6999 · 13/03/2025 04:58

The last few times I have been to the cinema, it's been empty, sometimes we have virtually had the place to ourselves.

That's me, too!

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MsAmerica · 14/03/2025 02:07

Caspianberg · 13/03/2025 05:06

It just isn’t convenient for us. We would need childcare just to watch a film. The cost of film, plus 3-4hrs childcare is expensive.

I would rather watch a film from the comfort of my sofa. If it’s child friendly then Ds can watch, we can pause for toilet breaks, pause to make a tea or snacks. I often watch half one evening and half the next as they are getting longer and longer

Okay, but I hope you understand that's not how they were meant to be viewed, in pieces.
Of course, expenses, including child care, are real factors.

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MsAmerica · 14/03/2025 02:10

shellyleppard · 13/03/2025 06:17

I would love to go to the cinema but my nearest one is 15 miles away. Difficult to get to when you have mobility problems and no car. Therefore netflix is my friend. Last time I went it was Indiana Jones and the dial of destiny

Are you obliged to go to a different town?

Well, of course, there are some people who have very good reasons for what they buy and do - but obviously the director was here speaking to the multitude, to the average person. Chances are he's a big-city person with a lot of theaters around and reliable transportation.

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MsAmerica · 14/03/2025 02:11

UraniumArthur · 13/03/2025 06:21

These filmmakers that keep urging us to the big screen are starting to piss me off. It's expensive and unpleasant to go to a cinema these days and that's not my fault. I also won't be told how to spend my time and money by someone half the world away who has no idea at all about my life.

Really? Do you object just as strongly for advertisements for cars and food, who are doing the same thing?

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MsAmerica · 14/03/2025 02:12

scaredysquiggle · 13/03/2025 06:44

Before Covid we went to the cinema twice a month. I loved films. After the Covid glut of releases I have barely been back.

It's cold in our localish cinema's (we are rural) and it's 20 miles in three directions for a big name cinema or the nice independent. It's very expensive now and to be blunt the films that are coming out just aren't exciting me. So I'm not even waiting for anything in particular to hit the streaming services.

I've spotted two summer releases I want to see so I might go to the cinema and watch those as the cinema won't be cold but if I'm busy I won't be devastated as I would have been a few years ago.

Same for me. I've been a big-time movie-goer for all my adult life. I was stunned that covid really changed things for me.

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MsAmerica · 14/03/2025 02:13

BigDahliaFan · 13/03/2025 06:49

There are 2 cinemas where I live. One is small with a poor choice of films and the other is cavernous, cold and has a sticky floor.

When we go away to that there London or wherever we'll often treat ourselves to the pictures with sofas where you can take a glass of wine in.

I like the communal experience of watching a good film. We watched the Woman King in London with a 90% black female audience who were loving it.

Watched gladiator 2 on a big screen with a full audience...it adds to it.

Exactly. A lot of people don't get that one of the basic ideas of cinema was the communal experience. And also especially for comedy!

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MsAmerica · 14/03/2025 02:15

RedRiverShore5 · 13/03/2025 07:11

Our cinema is fairly new and quite nice but it is very expensive, it's one of the higher tier Cineworlds that cost £15-£20 for a normal ticket, we have only been once.

£20 ?!?!?!
Do you have cheaper "matinee" prices, or anything like that?

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EasyTouch · 14/03/2025 02:19

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 13/03/2025 07:56

Says the man who made an ‘Oscar winning ‘ movie about a woman who enjoys being paid by random men for sex. Oh yes, and stripping in between.

No thanks , mate, you can fund your own exploitative 💩

I was waiting for this comment.
He has a sex worker fetish, follows alt right accounts, his first movie he had a transwoman beat up a woman as a justified action and on Anora did not have an intimacy coach , which the young Oscar winning actress went along with as if doing God's work.
I'm just waiting for what I suspect this man's downlow sexual proclivities to come out.

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 14/03/2025 02:20

boulevardofbrokendreamss · 13/03/2025 07:36

I can't stand the smell so avoid for that reason.

I also totally understand this.

It's another reason why I prefer the smaller, independent cinemas. They tend not to stink of hot dog/popcorn/donuts etc

The other reason is I actually hate the "lounger/recliner" seats the big chains try to market as a selling point. I hate being in a reclined position as I find it totally uncomfortable, the seats are far too big and don't have any "give" in them, and they never go upright enough for me to find a comfortable position, so I end up spending two hours perched on the edge of the seat with my back a good 2' away from the upright.

Now I think a bit more about it, I've no idea why I ever go to Vue and so on, they are awful, awful places.

FrippEnos · 14/03/2025 04:57

MsAmerica · 14/03/2025 02:05

Do irate moviegoers ever tell people with phones to shut up?
Do theaters you go to have on-screen admonitions for people to turn off their phones?

People have been beaten up for it.

EmpressaurusKitty · 14/03/2025 05:32

Most people don't go to movies alone, though. Surely your seat-mate will tell you what you've missed?

Which would then be annoying for the people nearby.

Caspianberg · 14/03/2025 05:52

@MsAmerica - well no. But when they keep making films so long, I can’t watch that long. By the time I’m ready to watch a film at home after child finally asleep its 9pm earliest. I can’t be watching films for 2 1/2 hours as I’m tired with child and I’m up early every day. So my option is don’t watch or watch half one evening and half another.

At cinema it’s just worse as it’s about 20mins adverts, then 2 1/2 hr film, so about 3hrs now to sit in a chair not moving. I can’t think of any other time when I just sit still for 3hrs. Films used to be more like 1hr 20-30. Again it’s 8pm start for all films in our local. It’s too late and long for me, and then drive home after.

I actually very rarely watch films at home now either though. I feel like the quality of films has gone down and they just don’t interest me much now. So I’m def not paying €€ for an average evening. I would rather read a book at home and spend money another night on a meal out

Nitgel · 14/03/2025 05:57

I still go quite a lot they just don't make many movies that appeal. Saying that I do like the NT live showings and go to those. Don't think it's too expensive either.

lily219 · 14/03/2025 05:57

MsAmerica · 14/03/2025 01:58

Oh, my goodness! I didn't expect more than a small handful of replies! What a surprise.

I choose my movies very carefully - not just the movie, but when to see it. I choose good movies, which have smaller audiences, and choose times which will have smaller audiences, so I don't often have to put up with annoyances from other people.

Funny about the toilet. Do you never do anything that requires you to stay in one place for two hours? Most people don't go to movies alone, though. Surely your seat-mate will tell you what you've missed?

I do go to the movies alone. And if somebody's telling someone what they missed while they were in the toilet, that talking will disturb other people!

MermaidMummy06 · 14/03/2025 06:26

It's too expensive, but more than anything, there's no atmosphere any more. No groups of people buzzing around the lobby with excitement. People just walk in, scan ticket & sit.

I did go late last year to see Wicked. It was 30 minutes of ads before the very long move started. I almost walked out. Next chapter I'll wait the six weeks to buy it on streaming.

MyBirthdayMonth · 14/03/2025 06:33

MsAmerica · 14/03/2025 01:58

Oh, my goodness! I didn't expect more than a small handful of replies! What a surprise.

I choose my movies very carefully - not just the movie, but when to see it. I choose good movies, which have smaller audiences, and choose times which will have smaller audiences, so I don't often have to put up with annoyances from other people.

Funny about the toilet. Do you never do anything that requires you to stay in one place for two hours? Most people don't go to movies alone, though. Surely your seat-mate will tell you what you've missed?

People who talk during the film are precisely the reason why I don't go to the cinema.

WhatNoRaisins · 14/03/2025 06:35

I used to really enjoy the cinema but now it doesn't seem worth the money. Behaviour has really declined and you can't just blame the yoof, it's people of all ages acting like twats.

It's a shame, we weren't a well off family but we often went as kids. My DM said it used to be a cheap outing back in the 90s. Not now.

ThejoyofNC · 14/03/2025 06:36

I recently went to the cinema for the first time in a couple of years. It was the final nail in the coffin for me.

People arrived late, then used their phone torch to find their seat. I was shocked. Then it happened AGAIN with a different group. The noise/phone use throughout just completely ruined it.

EmpressaurusKitty · 14/03/2025 07:27

I went to an event recently where 2 women were whispering to each other in front of me. Not a cinema, just a room with rows of chairs. Eventually I leaned forward & said ‘I’m sorry, you’re really distracting, can you stop?’ and they stopped, looking astonished that anyone else could hear them.

In that context, though, I was pretty sure they weren’t going to attack me afterwards. I wouldn’t dare in a cinema.

Flicitytricity · 14/03/2025 07:39

Meh, I go to Showcase cinema quite regularly.
I only pay a fiver and get a big leather armchair, a cinema that usually only has half a dozen people in it, and have never experienced any disruptive behaviour 😏
Love going to the cinema - so not all of them are sticky, noisy rip off places.