Tàr- is it good?

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Contemplating going but I don't want to be really emotionally wrung out...

Don't know but I want to see this!

I want to see it too. There's a review in the Guardian and in the comments lots of people saying they want to see it at home rather than cinema because it's long, which made me think yeah my own sofa. So I might wait.

Oh that's interesting. In that case I might go to a matinee. I quite like long films in the cinema as I do struggle to concentrate as well at home - too many distractions.

How long?
I love the Cinema and really want to see it too.

2 hr 37 minutes. OK that is long. Definitely one for a loo trip beforehand.

I like long films too though, I'm very tempted to go and see it this weekend. Have you seen the clip of Cate Blanchett sparing with an annoying young man student? It's very good!

I've just got back from watching Tar, today.
Well,..... it's interesting. It is beautiful to watch and Cate Blanchett is memorising.
BUT it is hugely long and there are great tracts of the film I would cut. I also don't know much about the detail of classical music and there are a few deep conversations they I didn't really keep up with. Mark Strong is underused and I never really felt the film got going.

So, I didn't love it but I must be in the minority as the reviews have generally been great so maybe I'm not clever enough?

I should have stuck with Jilly Cooper's Maestro, that's more my level.

Saw it last night. Loved it. It's the first film in ages where I haven't felt spoon fed regarding what to think about it.

It's ambiguity makes it fascinating.

@shouldhavetakenmorenotice thank you, that's good to know - I really like the sound of that and the impression I have of it is that it's really a massive cut above most current films. I was going to go see it today but we've got freezing local roads (rural) so planning to go in the week now hopefully instead.

Really enjoyed it, lovely slow pace

Not as long as Babylon which I saw yesterday

It's excellent but 20-30 mins too long. The first half could be cut quite a bit

Cate B is stunningly good in it, and it's a multi layered, fascinating film that leaves you thinking.

I'd recommend it.

Films are getting longer these days. Almost 70s like. Maybe it’s because it needs to be an even to turn on a film now. 10 years ago I’d the film wasn’t done in 90 minutes they wouldn’t make it. Up there were a lot of films then and cinema trips.

Anyway saw at the weekend. Really liked it. Admired it. Liked the switching of the predator. Liked that it’s showed us power. What it does to those around you, to you, and how It instils silence.

I loved it and didn’t notice the time dragging at all, but I love leisurely films. Admittedly there were only three other people in the cinema at the beginning and when the lights came up at the end, there was only one other person still there!

I found it intelligent, and gorgeous-looking, and what is not to love about a film that puts on screen the profound amoral self-absorption of the performing arts ‘genius’, amid some astonishing architecture, and lots of orchestra by-play over Mahler and Elgar? The one bit I wasn’t keen on was Adam Gopnik playing himself on full-on pompous mode, but probably necessary. I thought Noémie Verlant and Nina Hoss were excellent, as well as CB.

I want to see it too but I can't be bothered with the cinema any more.

I prefer to go to the cinema when it's quiet anyway - less popcorn chomping and talking - so the communal experience isn't a big part of it for me.

& certainly in my social circles at the moment there is so much Covid and bad bad flu bugs that I'm not keen to go and sit next to strangers breathing in their germs at the moment.

I hadn't realised it was so long so all of this fortifies me in my view that I'll wait for it to be streamed. I bet it won't be long anyway becaues the cinema (sadly I admit) is a dying medium and they will want to capitalise on the Oscar publicity in the biggest share of the market - home watching.

In fairness, it’s not the kind of film to attract either a big crowd or popcorn munchers.

I loved it; yes, I agree that it could probably have been trimmed down a bit, but half of its appeal was the atmosphere and gradual building up of situations. I've spent lots of time afterwards discussing it with people and reading reviews - it's ages since I've done that with a film!

Loved it. Very long but I think it needs to be - it's the kind of film that rewards a second or third viewing. It has a similar feel to 'There Will Be Blood' - enormous themes, difficult protagonist, very cinematic and very smart. If you're a sound design nerd, I think it's worth seeing in a cinema - a lot of the sound work really needs a proper theatrical multi-spacial set-up to do it justice. Like someone above said, first film in ages I've just wanted to talk to people about.

That's a good point about the sound, actually -- I don't just mean the music, but the parts of the film where Lydia is sensitised to tiny sounds and goes around the flat looking for them in the dark, and it's the fridge or something, or, at her own old apartment, the alarm in the elderly woman's apartment.

(It didn't remind me at all of TWBB, though -- I really didn't like that, despite some excellent performances.)

I spent the entire film trying to decide who Lydia's old teacher reminded me of, before realising when I saw his name on the credits that it was Julian Glover, who played the Holy-Grail obsessive Nazi-sympathiser in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade!

Spot on! Expect I liked Gopnik- Lydia was so calculating and mannered in that scene he was a nice foil.
Minor gripe was the credits at the beginning. For once I was early and had already sat through half an hour of adverts bloody Picturehouse I was already seething at my time being wasted once the film started, but was on the edge of my seat and 100% engaged after that scene.

Definitely worth seeing at the cinema. If it was streamed I wouldn't have stuck with it, and you really need to give it time.
Looks wonderful, brilliant acting, and the confidence to take it slowly.
I don't know whether it's a word of mouth thing, but the cinema was pretty full.

Sorry brum calling

I thought you were saying thank you anyway moving on

it was a really interesting film which could have done with a few cuts here and there. I was slightly annoyed that in a world with barely any female conductors they decided to make her a predator. She basically acted like a man. I think they could have done things differently.

I haven't seen it, but I saw the preview and thought that if Marin Alsop (one of the best conductors ever and one of the only women in the field) hasn't sued for libel yet, she probably should!!

Aah that's interesting.

To me it was ambiguous. Was she really a predator or was that the spin from jealous rivals ?

We never really find out if the suicide girl really was a lover or not.
We never know what the back story was re the 'incidents' they refer to. She may have been a stalker. That could explain why she warned other orchestras not to hire her.

When the cello girl auditions, it after tar has seen a captivating YouTube performance of a possible prodigy. How could she ignore that? And she even offered everyone a get out after the blind selection, when they all chose her too. Yes, it was manipulative and unkindly done initially but she was a strong woman, who'd spotted talent and found a way to give that talent a stage.

She took her cello girl to NY but she'd just lost her PA and maybe wanted to give the rather naive girl an experience of New York?

I left the cinema decidedly unsure about whether she was a master manipulator, or a victim of that bastard mark strong. And he stole her manuscript, the bastard. I'd have limped him one too 👊

*lamped. Not limped. 😬