First successful womb transplant

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I’ve just heard on the radio that the UK’s first successful womb transplant has happened. I don’t know what makes it successful (they had their first period, they birthed a child or that it’s simply receiving blood supply?).

It is making me feel so uncomfortable. My thoughts are that this will open floodgates for poor women selling their womb to rich women or trans people thinking this will biologically change them.

Does anyone else have thoughts on this?

I don’t believe Surrogacy is ethically right either so for me this goes hand in hand.

I dislike this intensely. This isn't life saving treatment. It is very different to other forms of organ donation. It feels wrong.

I saw this. As PP said, it feels very different from other types of organ donation.

The second it's reported that a TiM has "successfully" been the recipient of a donated womb (even assuming a degree of hype, pomp and truth-bending in the reporting), I will take my name off the organ donor register

This is my worry. I’m down for organ donation but I absolutely do not want my womb living on in someone else in event of me dying. It’s so concerning.

Interesting how men’s bollocks aren’t being taken/expected to be donated.

I felt sad this morning hearing this news because my thoughts immediately went to the trans-activists who will inevitably say "you did it for her now do it for me" and of course if one of them dies from complications, all hell will break loose about discrimination in aftercare.

I don't doubt the woman in question's case is emotive and challenging, but I agree that there's a question mark over whether this is life-saving treatment if she was healthy in every other way.

I have taken my name off the organ register and advised my daughters to do same.
My family know they can offer main organs like kidneys, heart etc.

But I just won't offer up my body for every last part to be harvested. Especially not my rusty old womb and shrivelled ovaries. Or the reproductive organs of my daughters.

I am quite sure that rules around donation mean it would not be possible to specify reproductive organs to go to an actual, biological woman only. No men. They'd just say that man was a woman anyway.

No way. Especially not my daughters.

Why can't we support people who are unable to have their own children and find acceptance with and fulfilment in a life which wasn't what you thought it would be but could be joyful?

I'm not convinced that going through infertility, IVF, organ transplant and removal - the last three carry a risk of death - is better for a woman than acceptance of her loss of the mothering role.

And for the baby - what are the impact of the anti-rejection drugs on the infant? Do we even know?

It's gruesome. There will be impoverished women selling organs. And I have heard of women in vegetative states who would be ideal for harvesting.

This is about halfway through the Handmaid's Tale.

Having said that, I hope this individual woman recovers well and that the baby is well and healthy and they have a happily ever after.

I can't actually believe that this kind of surgery is allowed without some kind of debate.

Watching TV this morning , lots of celebrating the good news. I was confused by their reactions, the consequences are huge and I do not feel comfortable with it all. Its also not life saving .

Yeah I think it's going to add massively to the pressures on women, we are not a series of spare parts to be disassembled and used.

There have been penis and scrotum transplants

However I'm not for this, I'm infertile and I believe the woman who donated the womb was the sister of the patient. I cannot even begin to consider asking my sister to go through a hysterectomy for me. We briefly explored surrogacy because she wanted to have a baby for me but the more we researched the more I was adamant I couldn't expect anyone to take those risks for me

Infertility is horrible, but if I saw my sister die in an effort to provide me with a child I am quite certain the loss would be far more unbearable than infertility

Sorry I just realised the penis scrotum comparison is not valid (I'm suffering insomnia hence the username)

The point is that testicle are not being requested from living men for infertile men

And in fairness a penis provides bodily functions such as weeing that are more key than fertility

I'll let myself out... 🤦‍♀️

I think it's great news for infertile women that really want kids. Sometimes infertility shatters their lives and beloved partner walks away, leaving them thinking what might've been.

I've no desire to have kids and my partner can't (knew this when we first met) and I'd happily donate my womb right now tbh if it was relatively risk free.

Yes, I agree. It also has to be reversed in the future, to protect the health of the recipient - so it's a temporary transplant.

I think it's great news for infertile women that really want kids.

That sentence makes it feel like those of us who are infertile and wouldn't go through this procedure don't "really want kids"

I don't like the idea of this at all, and I'm sure a lot of people will now remove themselves from the organ Donation registry. Including myself

I said 'really' not 'actually'.

If you wouldnt go through this procedure then my comment isn't really about people like you. Plenty of infertile women would jump at the chance to be given a working womb.

Besides most of the objections seem to be for slightly bonkers/borderline paranoid reasons relating to some theoretical trans argument. I'm not throwing thousands of women under the bus on account of a small number of TRA lunatics. It's sad many women have allowed themselves to be turned against their own sex by a load of misogynistic blokes.

Ah thank you for taking the feedback on board that your wording might be insensitive to some infertile people...

You know "people like me" whose feelings apparently are not worth consideration

There are 18 posts over 7 days it's hardly a busy thread that I'm apparently trying to shut down with a couple of posts 🙄

In fact you are making more attempts to shut down discourse you don't like through phrases like me-rail than I am so that feels like a bit of a darvo accusation there

It's pretty clear to any normal person that I simply meant 'infertile women who very much want children'.

As opposed to infertile women who don't very much want children of course 🙄

I get you don't see it. I get you don't want to see it.

Why does it bother you so much? It's her body her choice your just as bad as a man telling women what they should do only you say your a "feminist" so you somehow think you get to say what others want

My two principal concerns would be (1) the effect of the anti-rejection drugs on the infant and (2) would this include my ovaries, so genetically any subsequent offspring would be my children? That would be unacceptable to me.