How do Remainers feel about Austria voting a Right Wing party in?

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Not a wind up, I'm genuinely interested.
When Brexit happened I remember people saying that the UK would turn to the Right.
But, here we are, with a Labour government (albeit very central) and EU states going further to the Right with each election.
Do Remainers feel they got that particular prophecy wrong?

This question feels like you've failed to understand that Brexit is a very long-term decision. Whether the EU pivots to the right or left in the short term is basically irrelevant and was irrelevant to my decision to vote remain. These are 5-year decisions, not permanent decisions that will likely never be reversed (or at least cannot be reversed under the same conditions, such as Brexit).

But answering your question anyway, the UK may not have turned further to the right than it already was, nonetheless, it is a much more right wing country than many EU member states. I live in Germany, and yes, we have seen some rightwing parties gain in popularity in three state elections (involving about 10-15% of the population), nonetheless, politics here is still a lot more leftwing than the UK has been for some time.

Wasn’t it more about the catastrophic self inflicted blow to the economy and the devastating fallout and repercussions to the Nations well-being, wealth and prosperity?

The swing to the Left came because the Right fucked the country over in ways we never thought possible. The end of the Labour term will hopefully be when the electorate realise both sides are as bad as eachother.

It's not based on "feelings". It's based on actually understanding how different electoral systems work.

Look, FOM within the EU was always seen by the EU itself as quid pro quo when Western corporates were being given unfettered access to poorer countries populations. They knew it was the thin end of the wedge. Freedom of movement between countries that do not share economic parity was always going to be a one way street. British politicians badly let down the population by being so gung ho when the A8 countries were granted membership. There are now many other countries waiting in the wings to join and all of them will be net beneficiaries. I still believe (bar the minority racist view) that most considered votes to leave were made with this in mind. Britain being a net contributor when the majority of places outside London are impoverished was gaslighting on steroids. And now the reason places like Germany, Austria, France are all turning rightwards is because they are the original economies who will continue shelling out for the new countries. People have had enough. And that's before we get on to illegal irregular migration.

I know the difference between the systems already, I didn’t require your explanation.

And ‘not exactly a landslide’ for that proportion of votes shows an emotive reaction not based on numbers.

I don't know anyone who would be commenting on percentages and say that Labour's win was a landslide, people mean the number of seats, which is how governments are formed here.

I'm not sure what you mean about percentages based on feeling. Just to be clear I said 29% was hardly a landslide, I don't think 32% is either.

The UK has become more right wing though. People are becoming more openly racist.
We voted in a labour party who is not reversing, for example, removing the winter fuel allowance from pensioners.
When labour was left wing they would never have done that.

The UK has taken a collective step to the right and it's easy to see.

Other countries have done the same

It's a symptom that you see throughout history. In good, secure times of plenty, countries are more left leaning but when things get tough you see a sharp right turn and countries start getting more hostile towards people of other countries, raising the drawbridge, looking for scapegoats and turning on the most vulnerable in their own societies.

It seems part of the cycle of the rise and fall of civilisations and I think we are right at the top of the really high civilisation rollercoaster, wobbling in the breeze and looking down at that big scary drop.

Tldr - we're fucked.

Ok so consistency which is good. Although in a PR system it might be harder to get higher percentages anyway

Looking at German polling the top party is around 30% so you do need a term for a winning party on about that percentage

Not just a negative term

Most countries EU or not are leaning right.

This question needs to be asked again in five-ten years.

It may well be that the far right will fade away and the EU will carry on much as before.

Or it may be that enough constituent states of the EU will bump up against the Commission strongly enough and often enough that the EU will either remodel itself drastically or fall apart.

It’s hard to say which is more likely. But unless Germany’s poor economic outlook can be reversed the smart money could be on major change and loosening of the EU.

The European Commission will certainly change due to global climate change and wars in various places both of which will concentrate the minds towards European Unity and it will be governments with WORKABLE plans who will prosper. The times of plenty and 'easy life' are rapidly coming to an end which is borne out when you look at global trends not just small minded countries with their often sub standard politicians. The fallout of Israels aggression in the Middle East dragging in the USA and other countries on top of Russia and the longer strategic games of China who have effectively colonised most of the world in one way or another. Brexit has cast the UK adrift so will suffer even more than it would have if it had remained in the EU.

@IItisymoi

Brexit has cast the UK adrift so will suffer even more than it would have if it had remained in the EU

More wishful thinking. Iceland, Norway and Switzerland have all said no the EU and they are better off.

Hairbearbunches statement:

Britain being a net contributor when the majority of places outside London are impoverished was gaslighting on steroids. And now the reason places like Germany, Austria, France are all turning rightwards is because they are the original economies who will continue shelling out for the new countries. People have had enough. And that's before we get on to illegal irregular migration.

Sums it up well

Iceland, Norway and Switzerland have vastly different NEEDS to the UK and as a country, can afford to pay for the materials they want so are NOT equivalent to the UK which as a small, country with depleted natural resources has to trade in significantly different ways.

Absolutely.

@IItisymoi

Iceland, Norway and Switzerland have vastly different NEEDS to the UK and as a country, can afford to pay for the materials they want so are NOT equivalent to the UK which as a small, country with depleted natural resources has to trade in significantly different ways.

Lots of general statements, but no figures to back them up.

Basic human needs are the same everywhere. Oxygen, shelter and food.

The combined population of; Iceland, Norway and Switzerland is less than 15 million compared to UK's 67 million and EU's 450 million. A ratio of 1:34, but Iceland, Norway and Switzerland are all better off than the EU and the UK.

Norway has the largest per capita reserve in the World. Most of which came from the North sea to which UK also had access.
Norway - Wikipedia

Iceland has experienced the third largest human development growth as of 2021/2022. Iceland applied to join the EI in 2009, but withdrew in 2015 in fear that EU membership would have negative effect on their agricultural sector.
Iceland - Wikipedia

Switzerland has the highest per capita in the World. In 2021, Switzerland, after 49 years of discussion with EU, finally closed the door forever and have stated they will never become an EU member. They feared that being an EU member and the associated freedom of movement would result in lower wages and have negative effects on it's welfare system

Switzerland - Wikipedia

Lots of general statements, but no figures to back them up.
However Good old AI Globe (not the AI person that goes around farms inseminating cattle I presume) is happy to use data from many years ago which can easily be disproved or debated as the measuring methods are subjective or limited.

From 2020 through 2024, Austria was governed by a coalition led by the Austrian People’s Party (ÖVP) together with the Greens.

• The ÖVP is center-right / conservative, especially on immigration and fiscal policy.
• The Greens are left-leaning on climate, social issues, and civil liberties.

Because of that mix, the government as a whole was center-right, not fully right-wing, and certainly not far-right. The chancellor during most of this period was Karl Nehammer (ÖVP), reinforcing the conservative tilt, but Green participation moderated policy. What people usually mean by “right-wing” in Austria When Austrians or international media talk about a right-wing government, they usually mean one involving the Freedom Party of Austria (FPÖ).

• The FPÖ is right-wing populist to far-right, especially strong on nationalism and anti-immigration rhetoric.
• FPÖ-led or FPÖ-inclusive governments (e.g., 2000–2007, 2017–2019) are widely described as right-wing.

Remainers aren't necessarily left or right wing. A lot of the people who voted for Brexit have always voted Labour (or Lib or Green).