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Brexit supporters - is there anything the EU introduced you want to keep?

53 replies

jewel1968 · 02/02/2020 18:05

I was wondering if people who support Brexit want to keep anything you might associate with EU. I am thinking of things like food labelling that helps those with allergies etc...

Is there anything you don't want to lose when independence is realised. I imagine whilst you might not be a fan of the EU project there are likely to be some things you think we're a good thing you would not want eroded.

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strugglingwithdeciding · 26/05/2020 00:48

Also many didn't mind the Ev membership but did have issue with how the Eu was going
I may join my local gym because it's great and value for money several years down the line they haven't replaced any machines and are now charging me double , so I stay because it was good a few years ago or so I cut my losses ? Anyway Brexit has happened and people need to learn to accept that

begoniapot · 26/05/2020 09:27

You say EU regulations? But surely they are also U.K. regulations, as we were members at the time these regulations were made and voted for them?

So basically very little will change unless they involve travel or direct interaction with the EU and the EU withdraws those rights or don't agree to reciprocal arrangements.

mummmy2017 · 03/06/2020 12:04

You don't throw the baby out with the bath water.
Everyone in the UK is using the rules set out in the last 40 years , that we have been part of the EU, so unless something is intrinsically bad with a rule why would it be changed.
Food safety means if we carry on labeling products, you can vote with your purse, so by English Beef if your worried about US Beef.
And let's be honest this has show us that a major event that disrupts deliveries of goods is not going to kill people due to no food in the shops, as that just didn't happen.

ListeningQuietly · 03/06/2020 12:26

Food safety means if we carry on labeling products, you can vote with your purse, so by English Beef if your worried about US Beef.
US trade deal would ban the location labelling of meat as is the way over there

mummmy2017 · 03/06/2020 12:49

And CO OP only sell British meat.
Just remember there are ways round things.
Most Butchers know where they fresh unpackaged meat comes from.
We have a Farm shop, that only sells their homegrown food

ListeningQuietly · 03/06/2020 13:10

mummmy
You misunderstand.
The EU requires location labelling.
A USA trade deal would prohibit it.

Farm shops would be OK. Supermarkets, restaurants and schools would not.

Schmoana · 03/06/2020 13:21

Everyone in the UK is using the rules set out in the last 40 years , that we have been part of the EU, so unless something is intrinsically bad with a rule why would it be changed.

Because after no deal brexit we will be so desperate to sign up to trade deals with other countries eg US that we will accept their insistence on lower regulation and standards.

And because this is a Tory government that wants their rich company owning supporters/donors to be able to make as much profit as possible - even if that is at the expense of environmental considerations and workers rights.

Doubletrouble99 · 03/06/2020 16:18

Oh dear Schmoana, you really do talk a load of rubbish about the Tory government. Such old hat socialist drivel.

mummmy2017 · 03/06/2020 16:24

Well once we go WTA we will all see, I am sure the shops will use this as a unique selling point.
Iceland's did GM free.
Co op do British meat.

ListeningQuietly · 03/06/2020 16:47

What is WTA ?

The Co Op might do British meat, but if there is a trade deal with the USA they will not be allowed to say so.

fluffedup · 03/06/2020 16:57

The right to repair legislation sounds good. I hope it actually gets enforced.

For example, washing machines often break down because the bearings (or whatever it is) that connect the drum to the rest of the machine have worn down. It used to be a cheap and simple repair to fix it. But now that component is welded on so the repair isn't worth it, so you end up having to scrap the machine.

It would be good if the ability to repair the machine was built into the design.

Schmoana · 03/06/2020 17:01

Really double? You sound very naive.

Miljea · 03/06/2020 22:38

Double, would you like to explain why?

Or do you just want to sling 'Lefty!' - insults around?

I think what is madly deluded sweet is the way so many - okay, two or three on here, given that they amount to pretty much all that's left of the Brexit Brigade on MN- even imagine Britain will get any say, whatsoever, of what we want to 'keep' against what Amurica will impose?

Miljea · 03/06/2020 22:48

As it is, I think we've all discovered how 'Bulldog' our spirit is, given our response to Covid 19. 🙄

We have never needed Angela more.

Tho, for me, Nicola would pretty much do. Tho I live in Hampshire.

I am actually stunned at the position we find ourselves in, the climax being the Cummings Tail (remember, he who brought you your glorious Brexit- yet is bring disowned by the Daily Mail, ffs! Think about that!)- wagging the Boris dog.

How did we come to this?

Are these really the talent who you want, leading us all into the sunlit uplands of post-Brexit, post-Covid Britain?

No, me neither.

But, as I have said over the past 3 years, maybe Britain needs its arse whopping, to bring it down to size. Sure, deeply painful economically, politically, and humiliating, to boot. Who knew that a bit of English 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 exceptionalism didn't buy you immunity from a pandemic?

But maybe this is what needs to happen to make so many of us Grow Up.

Miljea · 03/06/2020 22:50

(As I stroke my family's Australian passports. Soz. Not my circus)

Kazzyhoward · 21/06/2020 12:51

Most, if not all, of the EU regulations were enacted into UK law, so they won't magically disappear on Brexit day. The relevant UK law will need to be changed to remove things like food labelling regulations. Of course, with a whopping majority (thanks to the hapless Corbyn), the Tories can change pretty much what they want, but I'm sure back benchers will object to any outragious changes proposed.

Kazzyhoward · 21/06/2020 12:53

Because after no deal brexit we will be so desperate to sign up to trade deals with other countries

Why? There's nothing to stop us continuing trade with Europe - they'll want to sell to us, so it's just a matter of negotiation.

DullPortraits · 22/06/2020 17:46

But @kazzyhoward to continue trading with the EU we will have to carry on producing to their standard or higher/ stricter they wont buy off us otherwise.

Cailleach1 · 24/06/2020 11:46

Iceland's did GM free.

I'm not sure I'd completely trust that it is as stated. it may be, just I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't. I don't think the addition of horse meat in a product a few years back was included in their labelling.

Needtheadvice · 24/06/2020 12:04

"Because after no deal brexit we will be so desperate to sign up to trade deals with other countries"

"Why? There's nothing to stop us continuing trade with Europe - they'll want to sell to us, so it's just a matter of negotiation."

No, they will want and require an agreement and deal needs to be in place for them to do this. I do not believe the EU needs the UK as much as the UK needs the EU. 27 countries with excellent trade deals around the world does not need the UK.

XingMing · 26/06/2020 17:45

I would have liked to keep EurAtom, the Erasmus scheme, the medicines agency, and most of the policing/security institutions like Europol (formed as Interpol in the 1920s by the UK). I think we should aim to pay the subscriptions to those if the opportunity arises.

I would prefer to continue with adherence to EU food labelling protocols, but retain and improve further our own higher animal welfare standards. But as pointed about above, none of the regulations prevented horse meat appearing in processed meat
products.

I was on the knife-edge between Leave and Remain right up to the moment I cast my vote. And as I am over 60, I asked my not-quite-18DS how to vote as he would live with the consequences for longer than me. I would have preferred to remain but ONLY with a massive brake applied to the EU's integrationist agenda. And Cameron failed to get any promises on negotiating that point.

Toptotoeunicolour · 28/06/2020 16:12

I would hazard a guess that most people who voted Brexit would be happy to keep the food labelling, standards, workers rights, etc. Most of those rules were probably supported by the UK if not introduced by the UK, and would continue to be supported. I suspect that when an agreement is reached in October (guessing it'll be then) it will be that UK accepts current standards but no future ones in return for trade deal, and no-one will bat an eyelid.

ListeningQuietly · 28/06/2020 18:42

toptotoe
An EU trade deal that kept labelling will be in direct conflict with a US trade deal that would ban it

which one do you want?
cannot have both

Mistigri · 29/06/2020 11:31

I see that brexity MPs are already agitating about their pets losing their pet passports Grin

I am looking forward to outrage on social media next year when Brexit voters discover that their pets have also lost their freedom of movement.