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Which laws, that the UK didn't want, will be the first to go?

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BercowsFlyingFlamingo · 01/02/2020 20:19

When the transition period ends and as of the 1st January 2021 we are "truly free and independent of the EU and all the laws and rules they impose on us," which ones will be the first to go? Which ones were forced upon us? Or which ones did we vote against but ended up with anyway?

Is there a record of the process to invoke laws and how different countries voted?

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AnotherMonthAnotherName · 03/02/2020 20:05

Probably workers rights and all that "red tape"- ie laws against discrimination and unfair dismissal. Oh, and probably the EHRC (which isn't related to the EU, true). Because people are willing to lose their own rights as long as them terrorists lose theirs.

lljkk · 05/02/2020 20:37

ban on live animal exports, maybe?
50-50 on whether tampon tax goes
tax-avoidance schemes introduced that wouldn't be legal in EU
more state subsidies of emotive but unprofitable industries

I gather that Cummings dislikes the ERG... will there be an ideological battle betw DC & ERG??

Cupofteaandtoilet · 06/02/2020 08:13

Has 'The Saj' Envy (not envy) been reading the Brexit boards? www.ft.com/content/4b0d8310-4353-11ea-abea-0c7a29cd66fe

Peregrina · 06/02/2020 08:48

This will be very interesting, since the Leavers have had great difficulty in saying which laws they don't like. I could easily imagine them coming up with suggestions that were UK law only so need never have been passed in the first place, or international laws which we comply with anyway.

Peregrina · 06/02/2020 08:53

Worth reading the FT article to see Heseltine's comments about the time he tried a similar initiative. One could mention that London, since the Great Fire, had regulations to make exterior building materials non inflammable. A law scrapped by the Tories - Grenfell.

cologne4711 · 06/02/2020 09:08

Cookie alerts on websites? Were those an EU thing? I wouldn't mind those going, bastard things - I think by now we're all aware of cookies and whether we want to blanket accept them or not

Agree, drives me mad, you can't look at anything without a cookie wall appearing. But I suspect that the fact that websites can be accessed by people in the EU will mean we are stuck with them too.

The US does have privacy rules notably California has just introduced its version of the GDPR.

I'm also with PP who think the roaming charges will start to apply again on 1st Jan 2021 the government has already confirmed that this is the case. Or at least they won't be requiring UK mobile phone companies to continue, so of course they won't unless they see a competitive advantage to doing so.

MissingMySleep · 06/02/2020 09:24

Tampon tax will go, ie vat on sanitary products. The UK doesn't want to charge this vat but are required to by EU VAT legislation.

Also UK workers rights are in some cases better than the eu minimum or were in place prior to the eu legislation. If you read the attached it is an old link but gives you info on what existed for UK workers prior to eu legislation. Much of the eu legislation came in after the UK legislation, ie the UK lead the way for a lot of this. It's unlikely that any government will reverse UK legislation due to withdrawal from eu.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36434855

dellacucina · 06/02/2020 09:28

@MissingMySleep why do you think it's unlikely the UK would reverse (very old) UK legislation protecting workers' rights?

dellacucina · 06/02/2020 09:30

And obviously they wouldn't do it due to withdrawal from the EU. They would do it because the Tories want business to be able to exploit people more to make more money (my opinion). However, the standards have been set in stone for 40 years and there hasn't been an opportunity to retract them for a long time.

MilkTrayLimeBarrel · 06/02/2020 09:36

@Brefugee - I have never stopped using pounds and ounces or feet and inches for that matter!

sashh · 06/02/2020 09:37

`That one about having straight bananas - or was it bendy bananas?

That's the one the UK forced o the EU.

  1. workers rights/women's rights
  2. animal / farming regulations
  3. laws about who can be a company director
Iwantacookie · 06/02/2020 09:46

Only thing I'm looking forward to is buying a new vacuum with eu insisting it doesn't quite suck everything up.
Same with washing machine having a faster spin.
I think I'm more than happy with rest of the eu stuff though.

Peregrina · 06/02/2020 09:46

I wonder whether Tampon tax will go? How often do Governments voluntarily relinquish collecting revenue?

Cupofteaandtoilet · 06/02/2020 09:49

www.infacts.org/we-dont-need-to-leave-the-eu-to-scrap-the-tampon-tax/amp/

Also - afaiaa we had vat on sanitary products before EU agreements on vat - if we hadn't they would have remained vat free, like in Ireland.

Plus, the EU levels are minimum levels - as I'm sure you're aware. We can go as high as we wish.

MissingMySleep · 06/02/2020 09:52

Della I'm hoping that the changes would only be positive but I'm often disappointed by the actions of politicians of every party.😞

I would hope that changes only cover disengaging from the eu legislation, and that previous UK legislation stands until there is a need to change it.

MissingMySleep · 06/02/2020 09:54

Actually I stand corrected. We could have dumped the tampon tax years ago.
I remain disappointed in all politicians.
infacts.org/we-dont-need-to-leave-the-eu-to-scrap-the-tampon-tax/

dellacucina · 06/02/2020 09:55

@MissingMySleep I see what you're saying. Unfortunately, I am pro EU because in part because I think 'too much' democracy is a bad thing and national governments often do daft or self interested things for short term gain. (Again, I don't trust the Tories at all, but I suppose a Tory voter could say the same of Labour pushing through a lot of policies when they are in charge!) I think it's positive to have a higher body that is less interested in swiftly changing nationalist tides and more interested in maintaining certain basic principles, like human rights and environmental standards.

MissingMySleep · 06/02/2020 10:11

Ah della I don't trust any of them. I wish doctors were in charge of health care, teachers in charge of education, accountants in charge of the money and so on and so on and the politicians were in the bin!!

dellacucina · 06/02/2020 10:19

@MissingMySleep I don't trust any of them either! Given that fact, I prefer to err on the side of 'unelected bureaucrats' who stop the most ridiculously reactionary actions of politicians

I throw my hands up in despair at the current state of things

lonelyplanetmum · 06/02/2020 10:31

Given the underlying agenda I think some restriction to discrimination laws. So needing to work for a certain time before bringing a claim or making claims more expensive to bring or restricting compensation.

Also less protection for workers when their employer is sold or transferred.

Peregrina · 06/02/2020 10:33

What I am finding frustrating in all this, is that the Brexiters have been screaming about 'democracy' for the last three and a half years, and wanting their will to be enacted. Now it has been and we ask what they want, the answer comes back "It's not up to me, it's up to the Government."

No chums, you wanted direct democracy, you got it, you put the effort into making it work.

lljkk · 06/02/2020 21:09

I keep turning off cookies, lately. It baffles me how many are collected and for zero good reasons. 90% of the sites I visit do not need any cookies from me to function.

cologne4711 · 08/02/2020 14:57

The fact that insurers can't charge women less for car insurance than men (although I'm sure they do). That was an EU regulation/case.

That said, I don't know if the UK's own Equality Act would prevent it, but you can discriminate if there is a sensible reason for doing so. For example you don't have to retrofit a lift into an old building. If 10% of men cause 90% of serious road accidents, that would be a sensible reason for charging them more for insurance.

The more you think about it, the more you can think of issues which we could probably regulate better in the UK. But if you are a member of a club you have to accept that not all of it is going to please everyone.

I think a lot of websites have made the cookie walls easier to deal with recently, you just click reject all and move on. But some of them still won't let you use the website if you don't accept some of them (i was trying to find an item on a shopping website and I just wanted to link to it for someone and I had to accept cookies to browse so I gave up).

Nonnymum · 08/02/2020 15:03

There are no laws I want to change. But I think the UK might strip. UK workers of some rights and some health and safety laws might be repealed.
Equalised retirement ages for men and women will go.
Why do you think that, of course it won't.

Thesuzle · 08/02/2020 15:10

Zen, and others
The uk actually has many higher standards of animal welfare and food -production than the EU

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