What are you most looking forward to POST-Brexit?

[Pumperthepumper]

I was a remain voter, and voted tactically against the Tories. I lost.

But onwards and upwards! We’re getting Brexit in January, like it or not, so I was just wondering what everyone was looking forward to the most?

I asked on a different pro-Brexit thread but nobody gave me an answer.

For me it’s the 350 million to the NHS with no trade deals with Trump. Or the continuing Peace in NI with no messing around with the GFA. Or the trade deals we’ve been promised without any reduction in standards.

I’m so ready to be convinced of how brilliant Brexit will be! Let me hear your positives, please

[Pumperthepumper]

AND AND AND more recently, Boris Johnson, the Prime Minister of our great nation, saying immigrants have been able to treat Britain as if its their home, and it was time to stop that.

So no, I don’t think welcoming new immigrants is something we can look forward to.

[fedup21]

I'm hoping that free movement is one of the terms we have to sign up to when negotiating our trade deal with the EU. Same with India, China and others. I'm looking forward to an increase in immigration, which will make us richer economically and culturally.

Was that a joke?

[lonelyplanetmum]

The government has always been completely autonomous in ability to control non EU migration. Arrivals mostly from Asia have increased significantly as European migration has plummeted.

We need immigration though as incomers counterbalance the ageing population and are net contributors to the economy - so it's swings and roundabouts.

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I’ve got a list of 25 positives including new immigration.(With thanks to a poster on another thread too who got me thinking.)

Some of the positives are borne of irony and in some sense are negatives. However valid positives can be learned from negative experiences.....

[MysteryTripAgain]

Complete break up of the EU so that people learn to stand on their own feet rather sit on their arses and get a free ride from those that work.

[chatongris]

Prediction: immigration won't change much post-Brexit unless there is a recession. (The countries of origin of those immigrants may change of course.)

Best way to reduce immigration is a whopping big recession, which the U.K. may well get of course. Careful what you wish for.

[Beamur]

I'm looking forward to not hearing endlessly about Brexit.
Also looking forward to the Govt of the day not being able to blame the EU for everything.
I'm looking forward to all the new trees that will grow as more farmland becomes unviable to use once EU subsidy goes for good.
I guess there may be gains for business in some areas.
We might pay less tax, which will be useful when we have to start paying for healthcare.

[lonelyplanetmum]

1. The quiet knowledge that I ( and the 54.4% majority) who voted against the Tories & faragism will be proved right that the new Conservative party prioritise only one segment of society.
   2. Seeing the odious Farage fading from celebrity and possibly his relocation across the pond.
   3. Meeting interesting new parents and pupils at school resulting from the increased non EU immigration from India, Phillipines etc that is already happening.
   4. Our own increased reciprocal ability for work in non EU countries?
   5. Watching the start of the (long, long ) actual EU trade negotiations with acute irony.
   6. For some in Ireland increased prospects of reunification. (Worrying negatives with that too.)
   7. The irony of the inevitable concessions and dispute resolution mechanisms agreed with the EU that replicate the previous terms.
   8. Observing with yet more acute irony the loss of control as provisions and standards are agreed as part of our other trading arrangements.
   9. Positives for friends and others in Dublin, Paris, Frankfurt with the relocation of many banks, and financial services jobs which have already started.
   10. The positives of new English and Welsh international humility acquired from being a smaller player in the back row at international events & no longer being a big player in a powerful trading bloc.
   11. I know it’s a bit superficial and consumery but increased availability of American tat. They do fab Christmas decorations and wallpaper for example.
   12. Witnessing our descent from the fifth strongest world economy to a more modest, humble position...7th,8th,9th...lower. More befitting to our size and just less dominating.
   13. Scottish independence - sad for some but a positive for many too.
   14. Ironically DH has sime shares where he works. The previous rumours of a US company buying the whole business may revive after Brexit? He’s not keen on US bosses but I think he’d get a lump sum and maybe a chance of early retirement.
   15. Positives for those working hard in the European Parliament who can now progress without our UKIP/Brexit MEPs as an embarrassing obstacle.
   16. The positives of the disempowerment of the DUP and no more billion payments to them.
   17. Seeing the ERG disempowered too,as no longer needed for a majority.
   18. Possible reshuffle and exit of people like JRM and Leadsom.
   19. A new rebooted start for Labour after Corbyn and McDonnell’s handover.
   20. Seeing the new gory Johnson Tories now 100% own the huge challenges of Brexit -no ifs or buts.
   21. Slim but possible chance somehow for refugees from say Syria or any economic migrants or some other people in need to replace the unwelcome European workers?
   22. Passing amusement that people who have always felt free to comment on vegetarians and vegans will now worry about their (US) meat standards.
   23. The irony of seeing those who wanted more control seeing control dramatically, taken away as the Tory manifesto to ‘realign’ the balances between parliament, government and the courts is implemented.
   24. Learning from the more humble, more isolated position, as our post empire hubris is finally ended.
   26. As a result of all the above seeing the U.K. or England/Wales having a sort of catharsis and acquiring a new international perspective with modesty and meekness- a final end to our superiority complex.

[Pumperthepumper]

Complete break up of the EU so that people learn to stand on their own feet rather sit on their arses and get a free ride from those that work.

Yes! The ‘Fuck Anyone Worse Off Than Me, Why Should I Help Them?’ principle!

I expect we’ll see A LOT of that. Not sure it’s a positive right enough, more part of the misery I mentioned above.

[chinateapot]

The EU can move on without the rather toxic influence of the UK. I think it may be a positive for Europe.

[BlaueLagune]

the EU project can continue without us around vetoing everything


It's actually a fallacy that we vetoed everything.

[BlaueLagune]

The EU can move on without the rather toxic influence of the UK

Not sure the UK's influence has been toxic, other than the UKIP/Brexit party MEPs of course.

[KenDodd]

I'm looking forward to being proven right.

With regard to the buck now stopping with the UK government, I think they'll continue to blame the EU for everything. For decades they have blamed the EU for all kinds of things that were absolutely nothing to do with the EU, the public believed them. I see no reason why that would change.

[Outedsochanged]

Looking forward to the Tory's not being in power for at least another 20 years due to not being able to blame their total fuck up of Brexit and not being able to blame any one else

[MoodLighting]

I'm looking forward to retraining when my job disappears. Maybe I'll get more cash in industry since I've been part of the public sector pay freeze.

I'm also looking forward to the house price crash so I can afford the other chunk of my shared ownership place.

[Peregrina]

Be aware people that on another thread MysteryTrip appears to think that the Republic of Ireland signed A50.

[Jason118]

As spaces that are wasted go, Mystery is a classic example.

[RJnomore1]

Everybody shutting up about fucking Brexit.

Won’t happen.

[tribpot]

Complete break up of the EU so that people learn to stand on their own feet rather sit on their arses and get a free ride from those that work.
We had a welfare state prior to joining the EU. But clearly we can look forward to return to workhouses for those who are too sick to work.

[Peregrina]

10.The positives of new English and Welsh international humility acquired from being a smaller player in the back row at international events & no longer being a big player in a powerful trading bloc.

Please take Wales out of this Lonely - Brexit is very much a product of English supposed superiority.

[MysteryTripAgain]

Yes! The ‘Fuck Anyone Worse Off Than Me, Why Should I Help Them?’ principle!

Without that principle there will always be people who will sit back and let others do all the work.

[Peregrina]

Looking forward to the Tory's not being in power for at least another 20 years due to not being able to blame their total fuck up of Brexit and not being able to blame any one else

This probable won't come about in the next five years. Eventually it will but I could easily be dead by then. Still worth holding out for.

[SallyWD]

I want to remain. I honestly can't think of any positives and I've tried to! I always look for positives (even when I got a cancer diagnosis). I just wonder what everyone will blame their problems on once we've left the EU and their lives are still shit or even worse than before.

[MysteryTripAgain]

Be aware people that on another thread MysteryTrip appears to think that the Republic of Ireland signed A50

Article 50 was passed 1 December 2009 and accepted by all EU members.

You are referring to T May’s invoking of Article 50 in March 2017.

[Peregrina]

I am referring to May's signing, because something lying on a statute book unused only has potential consequences. May's action brought those consequences about. When talking about A50 this is what most of us are referring to, but I admit there are posters for whom things have to be spelt out.

[MysteryTripAgain]

As spaces that are wasted go, Mystery is a classic example

Another remainer who doesn’t accept that reason conservatives stormed the election is that they were the only party that stated they would honour the result of the 2016 referendum.

If all leavers had changed their minds, as preached by the bad loser remainers for over 3 years, why did Conservatives win by such a large amount ?