Is a vote for the Lib Dems, a vote for Boris?

[fedup21]

Discuss!

People keep saying this on my FB page-is it actually true?

I do quite like some of the things the Lib Dems say, but don’t want Boris. In my constituency, it’s true blue and LD have traditionally done pretty badly so it’s pointless voting them, whereas Labour seems to be at least a vaguely viable alternative option so I’ll probably do that.

Or does it very much depend on each area?

I would struggle to vote LD as above says she voted with Tory s lot and last time they was king maker's they abounded their principles

We have been a Tory are a for over 18 years but MP stood down new one is hard Brexiter and tbh I could never vote Tory
Am going Labour as out of all the Mp in area he is only one that actually lives locally and he is a remainer.

Sadly suspect still be blue

Jo Swinson, unlike Corbyn has government experience but she has said she will never support any government led by Boris Johnson

@SeaOfDespair I hadn’t considered tbh mainly because I think - - when - - if the tories get in I’ll kick myself that I didn’t try. A spoilt ballot seems as much of a waste as a non vote and we all know the difference non voters can make!

In my constituency, yes, a vote for the Libdems would probably help the Tory candidate. Same with a vote for the Greens, which is a shame as they would be my first choice. However, we live in a Tory/Labour marginal which is currently Tory, so a vote for Labour is our only hope for getting the Tories out.

I do actually like the local Labour candidate but have been really disappointed in the Labour party nationally. I don't want to vote for them but will do so reluctantly as it's my best shot at ousting Boris.

Given that the Tories flagship policy is to deliver Brexit, and the LDs flagship policy is to stop Brexit, saying that a vote for the LDs is a vote for the Tories is absurd!

Go back to 2015 and the assertion might have made some sense, but not today... There’s no way the two parties could work together in 2019!

Those on the left who are looking to attack the LDs need something a lot more credible than this pitifully out-dated slogan.

Given that the Tories flagship policy is to deliver Brexit, and the LDs flagship policy is to stop Brexit, saying that a vote for the LDs is a vote for the Tories is absurd!

I think it’s more that if-in your constituency-voting for the Lib Dems rather than voting for Labour, means that Labour get fewer votes, that will make the Conservative candidate win.

I think it’s more that if-in your constituency-voting for the Lib Dems rather than voting for Labour, means that Labour get fewer votes, that will make the Conservative candidate win.

I agree but the same could be said for voting Labour in a seat that competitive between LDs and Tories.... but no one ever says “is a vote Labour a vote for Boris?” I’m not a LD supporter but they do get a disproportionately hard time compared to Labour in this regard. Where’s the outrage at Labour standing in Richmond Park or St Ives for instance?

This map from the People's Vote is useful if you're a remainer who wants to keep the Tories out and you live in one of the relevant seats.

Where’s the outrage at Labour standing in Richmond Park or St Ives for instance?

Good point, certainly with respect to Richmond Park and only 45 votes in it, and Zac Goldsmith who decided he was Independent for the by election, even though Rees-Mogg campaigned with him, and then decided he was Tory after all.

Our Lib Dem mp has a majority of less than 1000. In 2017 the labour candidate won 7500 votes - both Conservative and Lib Dem had over 20000. I do wonder whether to point out to the labour campaigners that votes for them might as well be votes for the conservatives.

kingassassin - you are in Oxford West and Abingdon, I think, then yes, do tell people that a vote for Labour round here is in danger of letting the Tory in. I know people locally who would be Labour if they lived elsewhere.....

A Tory who has been parachuted into the Constituency. They have known since 2017 that they needed another candidate, so could easily have appointed a prospective candidate to start working the constituency and getting him/herself known. Instead no, another chinless wonder - I think they have a clone factory somewhere.

I am, yes. I am trying (and leafleting!)

Fedup21 I am in a similar dilemma. Living in a marginal. My heart tells me to vote LD as I am remainer. On the other hand there was a democratic referendum and I hate to say it but I lost. Both parties seem to have forgotten that they have to play for all these promises that they are making.

Maybe a hung parliament is actually the way to go. Both parties have elements that I like but I don't want the radical thank you very much. Where has the centre ground gone?