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There will be no Agriculture Act in time for Brexit and this scares me

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feesh · 30/08/2019 07:54

So, this is a Brexit problem which I am very aware of due to my work, and I suspect there are other similar issues in other fields which I’m not aware of, which is, quite frankly, terrifying.

So, if we leave the EU we also leave the Common Agricultural Policy. With the Withdrawal Agreement in place, the switchover to the UK’s new agriculture policies would have happened in a controlled and slow way.

Although, exactly what those policies are STILL hasn’t been worked out, because although various policy papers and an Agriculture Bill have been knocking around for a few months now, there has been no work done to flesh out the details.

If we leave without a deal, we crash out of the CAP overnight and there is nothing - NOTHING - in place to replace it.

What should have happened is that Parliament, given the crisis we are in, should have called off the summer recess and worked all goddam summer long to get the Agriculture Bill (and other similar bills such as the Fisheries Bill and Environment Bill) through.

But instead, we are now in the situation where Parliament will be prorogued, which means that not only do MPs have less time to deal with these absolutely vital pieces of legislation, but in fact the Agriculture Bill as it stands now will be completely WIPED because any unfinished parliamentary business is usually dropped when Parliament is prorogued. It could be carried over to the next session, but some MPs are claiming that this is unlikely to happen.

So, they will either have to start again from scratch with the Agriculture Bill or use crude statutory instruments (which are subject to less scrutiny) to manage farming in the event of no-deal Brexit.

Ditto the Fisheries Bill (we are also leaving the Common Fisheries Policy overnight). It’s terrifying.

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lljkk · 31/08/2019 12:57

"ministers may find themselves open to legal challenges on some major policies. "

I'm not really following... but that part I may grasp.
Also, on Irish border: if UK & RoI both have an open no-customs-barrier border there but not open to rWorld, but without a formal FT agreement (ie, no backstop or alternative arrangements) then I get impression that other countries all over world could bring cases against either side via the WTO. I know WTO is nearly crippled right now, yet I am holding breath for those legal challenges against UK via WTO.

What rhymes with O for the tabloid headline that will follow?

jasjas1973 · 31/08/2019 16:00

Farmers on the whole, voted for brexit.

They wanted to leave the structures of the EU and to seek out new markets, so leaving the CAP is to be expected and we must move to no subsidy farming, as NZ has, uk farmers surely don't want to have their cake and eat do they?

Why should they get their promises upheld when little else Leave promised has been honoured? i'm particularly thinking of no deal and eu citizen rights.

Ceara · 01/09/2019 10:06

There is a House of Commons briefing paper about what happens to subsidy payments after EU exit researchbriefings.parliament.uk/ResearchBriefing/Summary/CBP-8644
It says SIs have already been laid before Parliament so the current subsidy regime will remain operable post EU exit, in the interim, if the agriculture bill hasn't been passed.

Some farmers may be turkeys who voted for Christmas, but I personally am trying to sigh and rise above it, on the basis I eat the food and I care about the animal welfare standards and I care about the environment, and all of that turns on the agricultural sector's future direction so...

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