Possibly a forbidden Brexit Question about Leavers worst case scenario if A50 revoked

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Really worrying asides about civil war, 'then they'd see what would happen', veiled and not so veiled threats.

If A50 was revoked or a people's vote planned what would angry Leave voters actually do? Nigel Farage has just said "No more Mr Nice Guy'.

The veneer of civilisation seems to have worn very thin in places these days. There is planning in place for civil unrest.

Bearing in mind the vast majority of Leave voters are not bullies, uncaring or out to hurt friends and family who voted Remain what about the few who are really worked up and would not stop at name calling.

@1tislLeClerc no offence but food from the EU isn’t ‘eating properly’. If one thing comes out of brexit I hope it’s decebt food. European imports are just vile, the poor quality of fresh produce here used to make me cry during pregnancy. Even now I’m considering moving back just to be able to eat good food.

Violent people will always find something to get violent about.

What will happen, most likely, is a small percentage would get violent, a larger percentage would turn to far right parties- the vote share of UKIP and BNP would go up and they would get a couple of MPs in in stronger leave voting areas. FPTP would block most of them.

You could also expect racial tensions to rise.

{@1tislLeClerc no offence but food from the EU isn’t ‘eating properly’.}

You are obviously talking crap. Fresh fruit and veg grown all over Europe which can be bought in the supermarkets or local market stalls.
Some is 'intensively' grown and you can get organically grown too of course.
How are your Northumbrian grown oranges coming on?

There have been several protests in the last couple of days from regions that could be said to be pro-Brexit: Wales, Cornwall and Devon.

They were a complete farce.

Farage's "epic" march started in the North East. He's just about scared up 200 supporters and couldn't even be bothered to accompany them.

The local papers - and people - are treating them with derision.

I don't think there's anything like the Leaver support that NF claims.

Lol at EU food. Because Britain is a culinary paradise!
Almost everything is imported!

There is often a choice of 7 or more varieties of tomatoes in my supermarket, some organic and some not.
Bananas from Guadaloupe, a 'Caribbean' part of Europe.

Maggie Thatcher didn't introduce Right To Buy because of her love for the sweaty masses. She did it because she realised that people were far less likely to strike (or cause civil unrest) if they had a mortgage to default on and equity to lose. There might be the odd smattering of gratuitous nonsense but nothing a bit of police overtime can't handle.

At the moment my biggest curiousity is what this "British Fish" is that we apparently refuse to eat in the UK but the EU chomps on with great delight.

I haven't yet heard of the "British Fish" species, is it a thing? why don't we like to eat it? Does anyone here know what type of fish this is?

Maybe Sole HateIsNotGood? It's really very popular in the Netherlands but I don't remember it being about much in the uk

People don't care much for Hake in the UK, but will happily eat Merluza in Spain.

Ooh and herring, and North sea shrimps. The Dutch eat loads of both.

Hake, yes.

I think the British are more keen on the 'white fish' cod, plaice and so on. Squid and muscles etc are more popular in Europe. Of course there is an element of choice that is available is influenced by how much is consumed. A fishmonger (if you can find one) is unlikely to 'stock' the more obscure fish.

There used to be a salted pilchard that we primarily exported to the Continent, particularly Italy. It was very strong-tasting with little or no marketing in the UK.

The last factory, in Cornwall, closed about 10 years ago, though.

I'm a little confused about the food views above but returning to my original worry I have seen some extremely violent views expressed in online comments to news articles across several news publishers. These verbal bullies online and in real life do point to the probable mindset of people who will act to physically intimidate or injure.

I admire your philosophy of reason and 'going high' onalong, how do you suggest addressing this problem in practice?

I worked in a fishmongers from 74 to 77, so before any real EU influence on what is available. Brits primarily ate cod, plaice and herring( fresh and kipper) with a little rock and conger. Everything else was small scale. Then north sea herring got scarce and expensive so dropped off the menu. Ditto cod sales plummeted for the same reason. Attempts to sell white fish alternatives such as pollock and coley were largely sniffed at. Mackerel only really sold when it was on ultra cheap special offer.

I recall that Coley was considered to be catfood, back in the 1970s.

Anyway, HateIsNOtGood, there you have your answer about "British Fish". With some skilled marketing it could change - people now eat and enjoy sushi - and 40 years ago this would have been unheard of.

{With some skilled marketing it could change}
If/when tariffs for beef and lamb go up to 40% or more, it could push the sales of 'other' fish.
This could be a real benefit environmentally if the fish catch/distribute structure were modified so that all species caught were available in shops. This could nearly eliminate waste and keep prices in check.

I remember seeing "colin" in French supermarkets when I was doing my year in France as part of my degree back in 1980 (). I had to look it up as I'd never heard of it - and still wasn't much the wiser

They tried to remarket a fish as 'colin' a few years back. I don't remember which one it was now.

There might not be British fish as such because they do not recognise political boundaries, but with the sea warming the range of fish within the North Atlantic and North Sea basin could change, as warmer water species move further north and cold water ones retreat.

The decision should not be based upon whether or not there might be violence though. We shouldn’t be held to ransom by thugs looking for an excuse.

I think there will be civil unrest in some form or other whatever the outcome. And the level of rioting will be exacerbated if we have a hot summer. Plus, like GJs, a lot of other grievances will get dragged into the mix. I predict a repeat of 80s riots.

{I remember seeing "colin" in French supermarkets}
I see and talk to lobsters and crabs in my supermarket as they paddle around in their tanks. I didn't know they were given individual names .

Barring a few incidents by the usual Britain First dick heads I really don't think the average leave voter can be arsed to riot, they'll have a moan about sovereignty (although not one leave voter I've spoken with actually knows what sovereignty is)and will of the people and all that and go about their lives because many in their heart of hearts realises that they were ill informed and had no clue about what being a member of the EU actually means.

Don't fret op.

In my opinion the reaction will be a decrease in trust of democracy / voting.

More people participated in the Brexit vote than any other in UK history. The ones who had previously not voted will see their prior unwillingness to engage entirely vindicated!

A chunk of those those who are in the habit of voting will be inclined to agree and give it up as a bad job.