Westministenders: BAH HUMBUG said Mr Rees-Mogg

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"At this festive season of the year, Mr Scrooge Rees-Mogg, ... it is more than usually desirable that we should make some slight provision for the poor and destitute, who suffer greatly at the present time. Many thousands are in want of common necessaries; hundreds of thousands are in want of common comforts, sir."

"Are there no prisons hostels?"

"Plenty of prisons hostels..."

"And the Union workhouses foodbanks." demanded Scrooge Jacob. "Are they still in operation?"

"Both very busy, sir..."

"Those who are badly off must go there."

"Many can't go there; and many would rather die."

"If they would rather die," said Scrooge ^Rees-Mogg, "they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population."

He continued "Besides I do not believe that anyone would die without them. I think Theresa is right, there are many complex reasons why nurses go to food banks. The real reason for the rise in numbers is that people know that they are there and Labour deliberately didn't tell them. To have charitable support given by people voluntarily to support their fellow citizens I think is rather uplifting and shows what a good, compassionate country we are"

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This thread is dedicated to Mrs8 and anyone else who is working to make life just a little better in the difficult circumstances that ALL politicians are currently doing their best to ignore (despite what they profess).

No Deal = even more poverty and destitution.

MERRY CHRISTMAS & HERES HOPING FOR A HAPPIER NEW YEAR
especially to those of you, who might be having a tough time or facing real uncertainity.

{ I find the current disconnect between paying tax in return for services baffling.}
It is a major flaw in some of the 'second wave' yellow jacket demands.
The original 'Classic GJ' has some validity as high fuel prices do hurt rural France disproportionately.
The 'second wave' before it got too violent and destructive had some interesting points, higher food standards and environmental improvements.
Rather spoiled by burning pallets and tyres though!

PMK. Am beginning my Xmas break with Leave-voting in-laws. So far we've all danced around the subject. However my MIL can be forgiven almost anything when produces her spectacular sticky gingerbread, so...

Therewillbe
The 47% includes

• University students / Apprentices
• Pensioners
• the unemployed / carers
• anybody earning NMW on less than 30 hours a week

which is fine, but having so many workers not paying tax is not good for society

Pensioners often do pay tax. The State pension is less than the personal allowance, but anyone in receipt of the full state pension and a work pension of more than say £6,000 will come into the tax net.

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Taken from the BBC news about crime in Iran where they are trying to stamp out corruption. While I am not suggesting anything in particular I think such a move would get a few sphincters trembling around Westminster.

{He then used front companies to procure more than 300,000 tonnes of bitumen - a substance used in making asphalt - one of Iran's most profitable industries.

Darmani, 49, is the third businessman to be executed since an anti-corruption drive was launched earlier this year.

Last month, Iran executed a currency trader known as the "Sultan of Coins" for amassing some two tonnes of gold currency.}

Peregrina
I totally agree that some pensioners pay tax - some of them a lot of it
but as the average public sector pension (the gold plated ones that have been abolished) is £4700 a year
and the new DC pensions are paying out diddly squat,
the vast bulk of over 68's are non taxpayers

LeClerc
I can never condone the death penalty for anything at all.

The best way to improve tax collection is transparency on a wide tax base
and simplification as far as possible

Like most wishy washy wet blanket disgraceful examples of humanity, I fail to get onboard the capital punishment bus. Ironically, Albert Pierrepoint (or his ghost writer ) gave one of the most eloquent and elegant arguments against it.

I wasn't condoning a death penalty, but more that corruption should be taken seriously.
For the amounts of cash that some 'accrued' over betting on the 2016 referendum, all the homeless could have had a week or two in decent hotels over Christmas.

I wasn't condoning a death penalty, but more that corruption should be taken seriously.

I'm sure the people practising it take it very seriously. Very seriously indeed.

Life's to short to re-read great literature, but I'm pretty certain Graves details Claudius' efforts to stem corruption in Rome. (And there's a great story about the work to extend the port ....)

LeClerc
But shorting currencies is perfectly legal.
It is not a crime to make use of badly written laws.

Don't get me started on lawyers!

It is not a crime to make use of badly written laws.

It is in Daily Mail land ....

And how are we feeling about George Soros?

Fennel I make epic sticky gingerbread. Which is also gluten free so my DD2 can eat it. And as an EU national without a vote (but Remainer) you don't need to forgive me anything. Come round mine.

Fennel I make epic sticky gingerbread. Which is also gluten free so my DD2 can eat it

Really? My mums celiac (although I’m not convinced I’ve spelt that right). It is a secret recipe or are you open to sharing?

howabout
What about George Soros?
He is a very astute businessman who invests a lot of his wealth in education in several countries.
At least he does not stash it all in offshore tax havens like many of the rentiers who get to go to Davos.

I'm literally making a GF gingerbread house right now. Well the dough is resting in the freezer ATM. Probably not going to be anywhere near fantastic sticky gingerbread though.

We need a public enquiry to investigate the profits of the gamblers, the hedge-funders etc. and how they intereract with politicians & political parties

We need to investigate the very dodgy windfalls after referendum night and the connections between the Leave campaign, wealthy business donors and poll firms

Investigate Tory donors who have made bets against UK business and Sterling, who stand to make massive profits
if Brexit causes a crash & disaster

And of course the ERG, some of whose members - our elected MPs ! - have similar murky finances and may stand to profit from disaster to the country

Are they misusing their power as MPs for financial gain by deliberately supporting policies to harm the country ?

Food it's this this one. Substitute treacle for molasses. For maximum sticky goodness do not use self-raising gluten free flour, just the plain kind. It's delicious, especially warm.

A public enquiry will do nothing except hand more money to fat cat lawyers
and give politicians an excuse to delay changes.

The short selling and hedging was all perfectly legal.
Immoral but legal.

It is now time to shine a lot more daylight on the legislative process
so that the tax system works for the many not the few

TiP If politicians profit from their bad policies, it may not be legal.
Brexit sometimes seems just a get-rich scam for Tory spivs, that got out of hand.

And the whole Cambridge Analytica saga:
we know they were organised by far right foreign billionaires
Was this just to promote the far right post-Brexit dream, or to set up the UK to be looted - or are they both the same thing ?

The ERG - funded by taxpayers - needs investigating
Have a few of them been promoting policies just to help their investmant funds ?
If so, that's illegal

Ta1kinpeace
Yup, agree completely.
Public inquiries certainly seem to be a 'chuck it in the long grass and hide the lawnmower exercises. Presumably so most will forget why it was held in the first place.

If this sorry saga ends in the humiliating U-turn of Revoke
or the national disaster of No Deal

the public will demand scapegoats
I would like the right ones