Irish citizenship

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Just some information for anybody that's wondering. Estimates seen to vary but it looks like the following applies to 5 or 6 million people.

If you were born outside the island of Ireland and if either of your parents was an Irish citizen who was born in the island of Ireland, then you are entitled to Irish citizenship, and entitled to apply for an Irish passport under Irish law, irrespective of where you reside. You can also apply for Irish citizenship if one of your parents, while not born in the island of Ireland, was an Irish citizen at the time of your birth. In most cases applications of this type are made through a grandparent who was born in Ireland.

www.dfa.ie/irelanduk-citizenshipandpassports/

This is quite a good site to watch for timescales. I believe extra staff were brought in to cope with the increased demand but they've been scaled back now. Six months still seems to be the standard time.

www.immigrationboards.com/ireland/foreign-birth-registration-t214839-900.html

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Thank you very much Swedish.

I will do some more investigation but that's a good start!

YESITISME. Hi - yes it was just the passport application. I only needed FBR for DC as my mother was Irish so my sister and I qualify without the FBR. I took the FBR application to the Embassy near Hyde Park Corner. The very nice lady took it off me and added it to a huge pile. I applied for FBR last year and that did take a while (6 months perhaps). I only applied for one copy of my mother's birth certificate so I did things one at a time. I know you can order more official copies but I had the time and this is a back up plan rather than a run for the hills. It was quite easy getting copy Irish birth certificates online. Cost about 20 Euro and very quick.

Thanks worriedmutha. I have all the certificates I need thankfully and all have gone off for the FBR. Once I get the FBR certificate I'll send a load of them back off for the passport.

I'm also in no hurry, don't know if I'll ever use it but see it as an insurance policy to be honest.

Does anyone know or know where I can find time scales for Edinburgh?

I find the website a bit confusing. Can anyone help? My maternal grandparents were born in Ireland. My mother was born here. Afaik she is not on the fbr. What do I need to do?

Your mother is automatically a citizen by virtue of having an Irish born parent. You will need to go on the FBR if you want Irish citizenship. Once you have citizenship you are entitled to a passport.
Both citizenship and passport process require lots of proof/evidence. As they should.
I have applied for FBR for my dd through one of her two Irish born grandparents. Part of it was that I had to know the maiden name of the mother of the Irish grandparent. I already knew it but it was onthe burth certificate of the Irish grandparent. I got a copy of this from the Irish records office- part of my evidence bundle.
Take it step by step. Don't be overwhelmed. There are checklists in the forms.

Riversleep, can your DCs not go on the register of foreign births, or can your DH?

I've got my dad's birth and death certificates. Does anyone know if this is enough? Presumably there's no difference between applying through a deceased parent compared to one who is still alive? I can't find my mum's birth certificate but hopefully don't need it? Thanks.

It's not enough. You need lots of other ID for yourself and your place of residence and to prove your connection with the Irish citizen. Loads of info on the website. If you have an Irish born parent you are already an Irish citizen. A passport helps to prove it and makes travel easier.

American, do you have a birth cert for yourself that includes your dad's name?

If you married and/or ever changed your name, do you have before and after documentation? ( Marriage cert/s for instance or deed poll docs).

Once the relationship and your father's citizenship are established you need to prove your own ID and residence but that goes for anyone applying for a new or renewed passport.

If you have a dob for your mother and a birth cert for yourself with her name on it, you could track down her birth cert. Was she born in Ireland?

HRTFT

@LyndaSnell

He died in my hometown sometime in the 60s and didn't have a common name so that's a start. I bet he was born at the turn of the last century as I've just found (on line) the baptism records of some of his children in the 1920s.

Sorry to be coming so late to the thread, but just in case it hasn't been linked already, this could be helpful. Irish census 1901 and 1911 are online, and free. With an unusual name it might not be too difficult to track him down.

www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/

bellinsurge thanks for your reply. I meant was that all the paperwork I needed to provide in relation to my dad. I've now looked at the list of what's needed and seen that it talks about a long form birth certificate - not sure what this is and if the birth certificate I've found is enough.

mathanxiety I do have a birth certificate with my dad's name on it. Well, I can't put my hands on it (paperwork obviously not my strong point) so I'll have to order a copy of that. My mum was born in Ireland but if I can apply with the paperwork I have for my dad I won't need to get a birth cert for my mum. Life is so much easier if you're an organised bod isn't it???

Juells thanks so much for that census link. I've just seen all of my grandmother's family - incredible.

More questions: Does anyone have any advice on applying to get on the FBR? I want to apply for both my children. Presumably this means I need to get more than one original of the birth certificates required? If the original is notarised - which is acceptable for the passport - could this be done with the birth certificates? Thanks.

Long form birth certificate is the one you get from the Births Deaths Marriages people if you don't have a copy.
My dh had some weird short form one that the hospital gave his Mum but also a long form one.

If the original is notarised - which is acceptable for the passport - could this be done with the birth certificates? Thanks.

Email or ring the Irish Embassy. They're very helpful and reply very quickly.

Thanks very much Swedish.

americanpastoral you probably have the answer by now but I understood you could you send in both applications in the same envelope with one lot of evidence as long as you put a covering note explaining what you have done.

DH was born Norn Irn and we have 3DCs all born in UK.

Am hoping to get them Irish passports (having been asking DH to sort this for years 🙄) but I presume as a UK born spouse am not entitled to apply for one.

No @KeepCalm , you can't. I have siblings and an MIL in the same situation. Your kids can, you can't.

Siblings' spouses, I mean.

My Grandfather was born in Ireland, and my dad is therefore an Irish citizen, although he was born in the UK mainland and had British citizenship.
I looked into this, and to apply for the FBR, I need some kind of photo ID of my dad. However he doesn't drive, doesn't want or have a passport and has no other official state photo ID.
So I guess I'm stuffed.

I presume he has a birth certificate. Can you get a letter from a doctor as a substitute for photo ID. Speak to the Irish Embassy.