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Westminster: Brexit is the hard right's weapon of mass distraction

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BigChocFrenzy · 07/03/2017 07:21

The fervour and divisions over Brexit have suspended normal party politics.

The staggering incompetence & unsuitability of Corbyn as a leader, together with the resulting impotence of Labour has removed the normal checks & balances in UK politics.
There is a vaccum where the Official Opposition should be, so Theresa May is under pressure only from her right.

I fear Thereas May and the Tory rightwing are taking advantage of Brexit to complete the destruction of the post-WW2 social contract and the welfare state.

Meanwhile, the constraints of civilised discourse have been loosened and those with racist or social Darwinist views now feel free to spout their poison openly.

Putin is pouring petrol on all the fires and Arron Banks is lurking < sinister emoticons required >

Zoe Williams:
"Behind a smokescreen of bogus patriotism, ideologically driven cuts to the NHS and all our public services are unpicking the bonds of nationhood"

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/mar/05/brexit-theresa-may-falklands-war-nhs-cuts

"We should be marching against the crisis in adult social care, the closure of care homes, the systematic exploitation of carers, the £4.6bn cut from social care budgets this decade.
We should be .... asking:

“What exactly is the plan, if we’ve decided we can no longer afford to care for the elderly and the disabled?
What do we do with them instead?”

"We should be marching against cuts in education funding"

"Every morning we wake up to someone on the radio explaining, despairingly, that you can’t fix the hospital bed crisis until social care is fixed, and you can’t fix that until council tax brings in more, and it can’t bring in more because wages are too low."

"But when everything breaks at the same time, that is not a coincidence: it is a plan.

As surely as Margaret Thatcher had an economic plan on employment, rights, industry and wages,
this century’s Conservatives have a plan on public services, which is to smash them beyond all recognition."

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Badders123 · 08/03/2017 18:39

Yeah. I reported it
Thanks mnhq

HashiAsLarry · 08/03/2017 18:41

Anyone interested in an old CCHQ tweet?

6th April 2015
The reality is Labour need to raise National Insurance to make their sums add up - and hard working people will pay #SameOldLabour

The cynic in me would say the Tories have raised NI to make their sums add up, and hard working people will pay Grin

GhostofFrankGrimes · 08/03/2017 18:42

Remember Copeland? That big red bus would come in handy now!

health chiefs vote to close community beds plus transfer most seriously ill children from Whitehaven to Carlisle

www.whitehavennews.co.uk/

prettybird · 08/03/2017 18:44

Going back to the debate about the possibility of a snap GE: if May were to call one, she runs the risk that Scotland would become a Tory free zone again

Fluffy Mundell has a majority of only 798. Hmm

The Labour MP and the LibDem MP are also now in marginal seats. While the LibDems might be making a better impression in Westminster, Carmichael was/is tainted by having admitted to deliberately lying in the run up to the GE and only getting off on a technicality and wasn't awarded costs

Murray, the Labour MP, at least has distanced himself from Corbyn (resigned from the Shadow Cabinet, so that the Shadow Scottish Secretary is now someone I think from Sunderland with no real Scottish connections) and I think refused to follow the Labour Whip in the Brexit votes.

ElenaGreco123 · 08/03/2017 18:45

I tried to check the Daily Mail coverage of the budget, but the articles were surrounded by semi-naked and I worried what my colleagues think.
Similarly to Semipermanent I try to follow both sides of the argument, but the Torygraph is way more respectable.

Motheroffourdragons · 08/03/2017 18:46

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ElenaGreco123 · 08/03/2017 18:47

What makes you think the poster in question is a woman?

TheElementsSong · 08/03/2017 18:47

Time to mask slippage seems to be decreasing Grin

Motheroffourdragons · 08/03/2017 18:48

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GhostofFrankGrimes · 08/03/2017 18:48

but the Torygraph is way more respectable.

steady on they've had articles by Farage Grin

Motheroffourdragons · 08/03/2017 18:49

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woman12345 · 08/03/2017 18:50

It's worse than that. DH was talking to a DPD driver who had been "fined" over £500 for being too sick to work

Everything about that sucks Tanith thanks for posting. New culture of employees as criminals, is again peculiarly British now, and all in place nicely for their plans. I don't think EU workers normally get 'fined' for sickness.

Seems a bit sticky if DM angle is the workers are shafted by Hammond's budget.

Badders123 · 08/03/2017 18:52

More money for grammar schools and state schools are discussing 4 day weeks to balance the books.

Fuck me

GhostofFrankGrimes · 08/03/2017 18:53

Pret a Manger: just one in 50 job applicants is British, says HR boss

www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/mar/08/pret-a-manger-one-in-50-job-applicants-british-brexit

woman12345 · 08/03/2017 18:54

Schools in the south east would collapse without so called immigrant teachers too.

ElenaGreco123 · 08/03/2017 18:57

mother I am sorry I got my wires crossed, as I was telling DH what was happening on the thread recently. He found it really strange, like who would benefit from shilling, etc.

woman12345 · 08/03/2017 18:58

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/mar/08/food-inflation-growth-vicky-pryce

"Firms’ input costs have risen by a staggering 20% over the past 12 months. The pressures are felt across the economy. For the moment, those cost increases are not being fully passed on – but this is beginning to happen and the process is likely to accelerate in coming months.

Global food prices have risen 17% over the last year and the extra pressure from the sterling’s decline is not helping
We also, of course, import a lot of our food. More than half of what we eat, or which goes into our food manufacturing process, comes from abroad – and half of that again is from the EU"

20%!!!. Yikes.

Motheroffourdragons · 08/03/2017 18:59

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ElenaGreco123 · 08/03/2017 19:00

mother a household of economists, we still believe in rational human beings Shock

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whatwouldrondo · 08/03/2017 19:07

Tory rebellion? Think out it is time for another letter to nudge my MP whose heart is not in Brexit even if she is too wet to rebel against a mouse in her living room let alone scary May

www.ft.com/content/700a5e82-03ef-11e7-ace0-1ce02ef0def9

angeldelightedme · 08/03/2017 19:08

I am so sick of all this middle class kids bollocks.
We are a poor family with 4 DC at/been to GS .
2 now at RG unis including Cambridge.All this years of tutoring middle class bollocks is a MYTH trotted out by those whose kids don't make the cut.

angeldelightedme · 08/03/2017 19:10

might have posted on teh wrong thread Blush

whatwouldrondo · 08/03/2017 19:11

Whatever all our occupations my DH (risk manager) is Mr Doom, there is never any point in protest, activism, we are all headed to hell in a handcart. This all makes perfect sense to him........

prettybird · 08/03/2017 19:12

Motheroffourdragons - no, I don't think she does Hmm. She doesn't and never has need Scotland.

It would be interesting to see who she got to be Scottish Secretary though Shock. Forsyth might get the gig for the 3rd time (this time as a Lord): I saw him talking in the HoL against the amendment, so he must be sufficiently loyal Wink

But at least it would give her even less credibility as "representing the United Kingdom".

Only 2 months to the council elections. Even though they only deal with local, devolved issues, she is the one who has exhorted Scots not to vote SNP to "prove they don't want a 2nd referendum". What happens if the SNP make gains? Confused The Labour stronghold of Glasgow looks at risk. Smile