disrespect to older voters

[Millyonthefloss2]

Do any of you know the Japanese folktale "The burning of the rice fields". My mum often read it to me when I was little. Please read it if you dont know it. Other cultures respect their old people.
Our old people voted the way they did even tho there were threats made to their pension and posters up showing an old lady with an empty purse. Do you know what the measly state pension is for a single woman. Lets all show some respect.

Crappymummy the only ignorance I see is coming from you. Your wild assumptions that Leave voters are racist. Definition of racism? Judging an entire population based on colour/religion/beliefs? Now apply that to you judging an entire population based on their beliefs to Leave. You should be ashamed.

chic I haven't seen those comments but I'm not surprised, if I was an older person right now I'd be very angry at younger people and their wild assumptions. I'd just aim my mud at a personal level now band everyone in the same category.

Faraway why do you think they voted Leave then? If they are not concerned about jobs, food or mortgages?

I fall into the outside edge of the Venn diagram. I'm not older and I'm highly educated in finance and economics subjects.

Immigration didn't come into it for me. My DH runs a decision and works here and in EU, my DM was born in EU and my grandparents emigrated to an EU country over 20 years ago.

I voted leave because I believe there is greater opportunity outside of EU in the emerging markets and the away stifles out ability to maximise on this. I also think the EU in its current form is bound to fail because it seeks for closer integration rather than just being a free trade agreement. Even before the referendum, our home nations demanded greater devolution yet EU is racing down the opposite path and that'll be its downfall.

There's been such venom levied at those voting leave by those who presume to know their reasoning. The brightest of those will have learnt their lesson and understand that they were wrong to assume everyone's motives were the same. There were as many different reasons why people voted to leave as there were for those voting to stay.

Take off your tin hats and learn to debate rather than insult. The referendum was just the start, now begins the process of finding a forerunner who represents the majority view for going towards. This will be a majority view that will (thank goodness) be tempered by those who voted to remain and will dilute the views of those who wanted out purely based on immigration.

To those denigrating the older generation, you have much in common with those looking for people to blame and settled on the immigrants! Not something to be proud of.

What a comfort it will be to me to recall, the next time someone tells me to go back where I came from, that many leave voters had other motivations, and that at some point (?) these will dilute the effect of the racists and xenophobes who also voted leave.

Well, that's that then

I agree that the only person displaying ignorance (and -ism) n this thread is you crappymummy.

The older demographic always vote, and as a "group" vote for "the olden days when it were all fields round 'ere". They do.

That huge 60% will continue to vote, as they always have. Some of the 70 and 80 year olds will probably put a shirt and tie on to do so.

The people you have to hope your fucking life do not get a taste for this voting lark are the underclass from the medium sized towns. I say this with no judgement on them, but on the system, in place for years which has created them. And which then feeds into them the idea that they became the underclass first because of the people from the Asian sub-continent, and now from Eastern Europe.

Your kneejerkery about the elderly is ill-informed at best, and ageist (and therefore illegal) at worst. You should educate yourself and do a bit of proper reading before spouting soundbites you've read on FB over the last few days.

It's a good story. I think there's a feeling though that our Grandpa set the rice field on fire because he smelt rain.

sorry - all I've done is asked why I need to respect the opinion of people who are racist and xenophobic, just because of their age

and now you're telling me this is illegal? Get a grip.

Your loathing of working class people is breathtaking

Ha ha, do I know you?

I'm a miner's daughter and my dad lives in council house. My Mum is Polish.

I don't losthe anyone, except bigots and liars. Bigots can be racists, ageist, disablist. I hate them all. Every last one.

sorry - all I've done is asked why I need to respect the opinion of people who are racist and xenophobic, just because of their age

Actually what you've done is to assume everyone who voted out is racist and xenophobic and shown yourself up in doing so.

As for the working class, my dad worked 3 jobs to try to get on. I was the first in my familiy to go to university.

The fact that you feel justified to assume the backgrounds and motivations of those who disagree with you shows breathtaking naivety.

i support everyone's right to vote, even if the vote is ignorant or racist

I would not dream of denying anyone (even the 'underclass' refers to either ffs) the right to a vote

I am just not necessarily going to throw them a victory party or thank them for their choice.

Soz.

I'm sure not everyone who voted out is xenophobic and racist - but the xenophobes and racists seem to be one celebrating and I've seen little from those who claim to have voted for other reasons to distance themselves.
I've not seen a single Brexiteer stand up and speak up for migrants who feel unwelcome and alienated and under attack. Just the same old "concerns over immigration aren't racist" line trotted out over and over again.

So in the story the grandfather set the rice on fire to save the village from a tsunami? Why didn't they have a bell he could have rung? Then they would all have been safe from the flood and have had some food to eat. Instead presumably the villagers endured a long period of hunger, had to leave their home to find work elsewhere or try to make the best deals they could with the neighbouring villages. Let's hope after the flood waters receded they put in an early warning system not just for their own village but for all villages affected by the tsunami.