Has Cameron become unhinged?

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When asked whether he would stay on in the event of a brexit vote..

“Yes. I think it’s very important that the individual careers of individual politicians don’t get caught up in this question."

Is there anyone in the country, even those who support his campaign, who agree?

How hilariously out of touch can you be?

from where I'm sitting, where we have referenda every day of the week.

And where is this, Totallypearshaped?

Sneery attitudes like that totally are why we will be better off out. Who needs to be tied to other nations who's opinion of us is so low.

I always say, "if you don't know, vote no".

Interestingly, there isn't a choice of "yes" or "no" on the ballot paper in this referendum. It's stay or leave, so "yes" or "no" could apply to either side. Apparently people are more likely to pick "yes" if a yes/no question is given, so the proposed ballot paper was changed on the recommendation of the election watchdog.

If it's important enough, and you're so inclined, you'll be asked to vote again.

IMO that's one of the problems about the EU. It has been 41 years since the last referendum and I doubt we'll be asked to vote again any time soon.

Can Andrea Leadsom become MP I think she would do a great job for us.
I thought he looked awful, in terms of tired, grey, puffy....Much stress ...

Given Cameron's family I don't know how he can live with himself after what has been done to education, health and the growing number of children in poverty
You could say same but more of Blair, the gap grew under his long tenure. Whilst everything else became run down.

Who needs to be tied to other nations who's opinion of us is so low

Exactly.

Totally are you in Ireland? My Irish friends constantly joke that they have referendums on EU treaties all the time and if they vote "no" then the referendum happens again and again until they get the answer right.

Feeling better for getting all that bile off your chest? Must be painful living with all that spleen.

Do you really think you'll not have to engage with the world, if you leave the EU? That's the point of leaving actually, so that we aren't tied to the EU, and can make our own way in the world. there are a hell of a lot of countries outside the 28 EU member states, and we'd like to trade with a lot of them.

We aren't leaving NATO, the G8, the IMF, or the UN, just trying to leave one particular club whose direction of travel some of us don't like.

I live in EU central and haven't noticed that opinion of the UK is dropping like a stone. People are still happy to smile, take my money, proffer invitations etc, and in the world outside the Berlaymont Bubble we cooperate with other nations. I don't think dh went to work today and got a hard time because he is a Brit.

I do know what this referendum is about, which is why I have voted to leave. You may wish to live in the embrace of a European superstate where democracy is overridden, and countries crucified to prop up the project, but I don't.

Of course I'm in Ireland, and I'd almost say, please vote to leave, then we will be the only English speaking country in the eu, until Scotland and NI leave England in your own sorry mess

Well, that's nice after my taxes went into the massive EU bailout for Ireland in order for it to avoid bankruptcy.

And surely if you hate us so much you should be thrilled to see the back of us. So what's in it for you?

if people leave, you will be handing all the power that europe holds straight to cameron. So workers rights? cameron and his cronies will be free to get rid of them asap. Human rights? won't exist .
there will be NOBODY to rein them in.

Is this really an Irish person using the death of a woman to make a political point about solving issues with violence not being a good idea?
Really?
Because your country has been a shining example of not letting terrorists dictate policy and law during my lifetime.

"He has ruined state education in this country but is possibly the lesser of the evils."

As education minister for around 4 years, I think a certain Michael Gove was responsible for the above.

"At its 2013 conference, Gove was criticised by the National Association of Head Teachers, whose members condemned the "climate of bullying, fear and intimidation" they said he had created during his time as Education Secretary, and passed a vote of no confidence in his policies.[3] Votes of no confidence were also passed by the Association of Teachers and Lecturers, National Union of Teachers and NASUWT at their conferences in 2013.[4]"

You don't have to be a fan of Gove's education policies to support his common sense and dignified debate on the EU.

The very worst thing about Gove (among many bad things) is that he thinks it is cool and impressive to diss the experts. This is his trade mark - from education, to justice to brexit - so called 'creative destruction' - freeing the spirit of innovation from the inertia of the status quo blah blah. He actually reminds me, bizarrely, of chairman Mao - Let a hundred flowers bloom etc. Arrogant and dangerous.

That is a sentence attributed to Cameron. I suppose equally someone could just as easily say that irrespective of what you think of DC policies, you can admire his common sense and dignified debate on the EU.

Mind you, I think Goves may have been outed wrt what he said about his father. He himself brought his father into the political domain by transmitting it to the nation as part of his campaign arguments. And then he was outraged that someone went to verify his story.

And afterwards his story became more embellished, what with the orphaned boys from a children's home who he said worked and lived in a bedroom that Gove's father 'made' for them. Were they were then left high and dry as his father gave them their cards. Was this child labour or something? Now who brought them into the political debate?

Daddy said closing down wasn't really to do with the EU. North Sea oil and the cod wars amongst other things led him to shut down and go working with someone else.

That is before Gove intervened with his 'Common Sense'. Outraged at his father being brought into the political domain. He must be outraged at himself then. Now who first started talking about his father and the EU?

"Because your country has been a shining example of not letting terrorists dictate policy and law during my lifetime."

TheSolitary, I think you'll find that most of the violence in and from Northern Ireland can be regarded as British violence. Northern Ireland is a constituent part of the UK and people born there have automatic British Nationality, just like people born in Hastings. Although not part of Britain itself, it endows British nationality.

Both Nationalist and Loyalist paramilitaries. Don't forget Loyalist paramilitaries are not just British by virtue of being a part of the UK, nationality. Their heritage and identity is British as well.

Look up the Loghinisland Massacre. This was in the news recently. A Loyalist paramilitary organisation who murdered people watching a football match in a bar and a recent police ombudsman report showed police collusion and coverup.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-36486779

Also the Loyalist paramilitaries who bombed Dublin and Monaghan. This was the biggest loss of life in one day in the Troubles. And there is believed to have been British state collusion in this. To this day, the British Gov't won't help with the investigation. So I don't think an Irish person has to take any sanctimonious or hypocritical bull from you. Violence is still violence, even when it doesn't occur in Britain itself.

Maybe you shouldn't throw stones, what with your very glassy house and all.

Pangurban1 agreed re Gove but Cameron is ultimately responsible because the buck stopped with him. He supported Gove in what he was doing.

I think David Cameron will be relieved to step down. The reason that he has not said he will step down is because he does not want the referendum to be about him he wants what is best for the country (and his family and friends (as we all do)).

Michael Gove wants to leave Europe because his fishing family have suffered very badly in the EU. This is not necessarily because of the EU but because the fishing industry was of insufficient interest to the UK government for them to stick up sufficiently for it.

The rest of Boris Johnson's family appear to be pro EU. Boris Johnson appears to be rather fond of ancient Greece - a collection of warring city states where the position of women was little better than under the Taliban or so called ISIS

My goodness totallypeashaped who rattled your cage? Such anger can't be good for you. Vile and hateful posts like that aren't helpful.

Totallypearshaped you really are deluded. Ireland is neutral but it's not enshrined in its constitution. As a member of the EU , your children WILL be in the Euro Army which will be formally announced in days. So are you up for euro service? Not so neutral eh? Ireland will be the first line of attack against Russia - think strategically. The Euro army could easily use Knock to stage their fighter aircraft.
Brussels it itching to fight Russia. Juncker who told Putin only last week he was the leader of the EU also saw fit to threaten him.
Now how do you think that is going to play out?

Get over the plantation of Ulster and the troubles, we all have. Time to move on. My kids really don't have the stupid hatred in their hearts.
ps I live in Northern Ireland.