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Will DH be able to move with me?

35 replies

Rikkitikkitemper · 09/06/2016 14:35

I realise that no one knows what will actually happen to EU citizens in the UK or Brits in the EU.

But I am getting so worried about the possible consequences of Brexit.

I am an EU citizen, DH and DS are Brits, although DS is a dual national. We are now seriously thinking about the fact that our family might not be able to live together legally in the same country if the UK leaves the EU.

Have any of the politicians involved in the debates said anything about what might happen to families like mine?

I have images of having to sell our house for peanuts and flee my home (the UK). The possibility of this happening to countless families across the UK and the EU scares the daylights out of me.

I am sure that EU citizens in the UK will be able to retain the right to remain if they make enough money (how much?). But what about those of us who do not?

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WidowWadman · 09/06/2016 22:04

I'm still quite scared about how naive I was about my own status until I applied for citizenship and found out about it. Luckily I was OK. Could easily have been different.

OlennasWimple · 09/06/2016 22:07

There would be transitional arrangements, even after the conclusion of treaty negotiations. It won't just be "tomorrow all foreigners must leave"

Fleurdelise · 09/06/2016 22:37

I am not certain about anything. What I was saying is that the status of the people on this thread married to British citizens will not change on 24th June. Nor of the wider EU immigrant. To start deporting people you need new immigration laws adopted, that doesn't happen overnight.

On top of that if your children and husband are British (like the OP and a couple more posters) there is something called human rights, they won't deport mothers of British citizens or wifes.

So what I meant is that nobody should panic yet. Once the result comes out if it is a leave vote you just need to identify which documents you need to apply for if any.

But if you look at Norway and Switzerland who are not part of EU but wanted access to the European market (just as UK will want to) they had to also adopt the free movement treaty which means that it is highly unlikely for Britain to negotiate a different deal.

Let's hope for the best, I have family and friends who are not documented residents who work here in high skilled jobs I am hoping they won't lose their jobs just like that.

WidowWadman · 09/06/2016 22:54

Fleurdelise - they already are non EEA parents/spouses of British citizens, if they can't afford to sponsor a visa.M marriage to a British citizen does not give right to residency.
Yes, there probably would be transitional periods, but it's naive and dangerous to assume noone who already is here won't have to worry.

Mistigri · 10/06/2016 06:20

To start deporting people you need new immigration laws adopted, that doesn't happen overnight.

This isn't true, since if the UK were to leave the EU without a reciprocal agreements regarding EU migrants (including UK citizens abroad, like me), then those migrants would simply be subject to national immigration law. WidowWadman is correct to say that UK national immigration law does not recognise the right for UK nationals to live with their non-EU spouses unless they earn enough.

However, I think it's incorrect and unreasonable to give the impression that this is a likely outcome. It's possible, but IMO it's very unlikely.

Chalalala · 10/06/2016 09:11

talking about "deportation" makes it sound all dramatic and entirely implausible, but it doesn't actually need to get to that stage

to take the example of the spouses of British citizens who don't earn enough:: they're not put on planes and deported, instead they're just refused visas. So they put themselves on planes, or just don't come to the UK. It's all very prosaic and boring. Except that it tears apart families/effectively denies people the right to live in their own country.

I agree with Mistigri though. For EU citizens already living in the UK, this scenario is theoretically possible but unlikely in practice.

WidowWadman · 10/06/2016 17:52

Then of course it could also hit non EEA spouses of EU citizens living in the UK as their right to reside depends on their spouse exercising treaty rights.

engineersthumb · 11/06/2016 09:00

It's so sad to see the devisive effects this referendum is already having. My wife is a German national who gaind citizenship this year but she says that she has never felt so unwelcome in the ten years that she has been here as now. Gaining citizenship should be something quite joyful but it felt more like building a bomb shelter in preparation. If I'm honest I pushed her to gain British citizenship as we have chchildren and a house in the UK. I'm sorry to hear similar stories and hope that we remain in the EU after the 23rd and can put this behind us.

Chalalala · 11/06/2016 09:44

Then of course it could also hit non EEA spouses of EU citizens living in the UK as their right to reside depends on their spouse exercising treaty rights.

DH is non-EU so that's my concern. Right now his work permit is linked to my EEA rights.

Thankfully he'll get PR status before too long, so hopefully we'll be ok.

Chalalala · 11/06/2016 09:55

Thanks engineersthumb that's nice to hear

I've thought about taking on British citizenship but it feels wrong doing it purely as a "safety". I've always felt perfectly at home and integrated as an EU citizen living in the UK, and I'm not big on national sentiment anyway. But if Brexit happens I'll probably hedge my bets and do it. Sad.

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