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Happy No New Stuff Year - The support thread for those flying in the face of consumerism!

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WewishyouaBUMPERLICIOUS · 30/12/2007 08:17

My husband and I have set ourselves a challenge of not buying any new stuff for 6 months. Obvious exceptions are food, cleaning products and toiletries. Also outside of the rules are items that it would be detrimental to buy second hand for my 6mo baby, i.e. cot mattress, dummies etc.

I posted about this a couple of months ago, and have also noticed some posts on the style and beauty threads proposing the same thing. So this is the thread for those who want to join this challenge in some way, whether it be just buying no new clothes, buying nothing new at all, buying nothing at all, buying only second hand etc. Our motivation are different, for some it will be saving money (me), for others it may be flying in the face of rampant consumerism (me) and for others is may be trying to mitigate their impact upon the environment and in protest against the poorly treated workers producing the dirt cheap goods we come to expect today (also me!).

This thread could be invaluable support, with links to various recycling websites, tips on altering your clothes to liven up your wardrobe, advice to stop yourself frittering money on non-fat lattes and a pain au chocolate each day on the way to work and support to tell you "no you don't need a new lipstick - here's how to make your own!"

So come one come all: I dare you to set yourself this challenge and not buy anything new for as long as possible!

OP posts:
JackieNo · 04/01/2008 09:57

StaceyM - yes, CAT me and you're welcome to my copy of 'Not buying it'. (notice I'm just lurking on this thread, and not committing myself to actually doing anything).

Staceym21AtLast · 04/01/2008 10:04

jackieNo, have no CAT facility atm, could you email me on stacey _ [email protected] (without the spaces) that would be brill!

JackieNo · 04/01/2008 10:05

Will do.

Staceym21AtLast · 04/01/2008 10:06

thank you! can send it back once im finished with it!

Minum · 04/01/2008 10:15

This is going to be a lot easier now, with things to use up, than in a few weeks time, when its all gone. I've just found shampoo half used under the bath, leftover drinks from Christmas, jars in the fridge to cheer up the frozen chicken for dinner. The art will be to sustain it - looking forward to inspiration on that one.

Staceym21AtLast · 04/01/2008 10:19

a thought i put to people is monthly rather than weekly shopping, when i did a weekly shop i spent about £50 a week, now i do a monthly shop and spend between 60 and £70! huge saving, by not shopping as much!

i only have to buy fruit and veg and milk each week which costs around £10 so in total about £100 a month rather than £200-£250 a month, a good saving to me!

PersephoneSnowballSnape · 04/01/2008 10:20

mine is mainly financial as well, I'm in quite a bit of debt and need to clear my feet because i want to move house this year.(it will be a pre-loved house!) I'm going to do the money-saving expert 'sealed pot' as well. i have a pretty round hat-box type thing that 4 mugs came in at xmas, so I've sealed it up with many layers of sellotape, cut a slot in the top and will put everything under 50p in it every night when i get home.

i only buy a newspaper on saturday and sunday - i do enjoy them, but thats probably about £3.50 a weekend. that is £182 a year!!! eep! i could easily read them online...

exbatt · 04/01/2008 10:34

Interesting thread, it echoes much of what I've been thinking/doing over recent years.

It's particularly interesting because people are developing their own ways of doing it, to fit their own personal goals and lifestyles, and I really think that's the key. People come from some different directions - someone (like the author of that book perhaps?) living in a comfortable, well-furnished home with every appliance they could want and a wardrobe of clothes to last them a lifetime is at a very different starting point from someone who has few clothes and a sparsely or badly-furnished house.

Too many other articles and threads I've read have focused either on just getting everything as cheaply as possible, or buying absolutely nothing at all in what can seem a very joyless existence.

I'm still making up my rules as I go along, (I think we all are!) but I think the main rule is just to think about what I buy. Do I actually need it? I think there is a case for sometimes buying things we want rather than need, but that should be an exception and only after much thought.

Having decided to get something, how do I get it? Obvious sources are things like Freecycle and charity shops. Or even better, making said item. But if I do decide to buy it, price isn't everything. I want to buy things in the best way I can, so I'm thinking of issues like how the product is made, is it made from recycled, recyclable or sustainable things? Is it made by an ethical company. Sometimes, these things mean I might actually spend more. In some cases (clothes perhaps), it might be better to spend a bit more on good-quality, well-made items but not to buy clothes very often at all.

Food is a case in point. I know I could spend less on food, have done in the past. But I've come to the conclusion that food matters and we're happy to spend more on it if it means spending ethically - local, organic, fair trade etc. But to offset this, we only eat meat once or twice a week, cook from scratch and eat a lot of very inexpensive but not cheap and nasty meals - lentils, beans etc.

Books are a difficult one for us. Reading and yes, owning, books is one of our joys in life. So we are still collecting books, but trying to do it in a way that isn't too consumerist. I almost never buy a new book - although I have to admit putting books on my birthday and Christmas lists. If someone is determined to buy me something, isn't it better they get me something I actually want than some rubbish I don't want? Otherwise, we buy books from charity shops, and we do use our library lots too. Our books are well-used too, there are 5 of us in the house and most books are read and re-read by at least 2 members of the family. Friends and relatives borrow books from us too, they joke it is better than the local library!

It's really fascinating to see different people's take on all this. I think in some ways even just mulling it over is a good thing - if it makes us question what we buy and pare things down a little, that's got to be good.

Will watch this one with interest!

amazonianwoman · 04/01/2008 11:17

Tyaca - no idea how CAT works either, so do you want to email me? Just got the bigger carseat last night so the Maxi Cosi Cabrio is now redundant here

a n d r e a - k e l l y @ ntlworld . com (without spaces)

BumperliciousIsOneHotMother · 04/01/2008 11:43

prism, don't have time now but i would be interested in exploring why we enjoy buying things so much (can you tell I studied psychology?)

another quick tip, about 3 months ago I made the resolution to stop buying magazines, both trashy sleb weeklies & glossies. not only have I saved money by not buying them, I have stopped wanting the things in them so much. glossies are about 30% adverts and the rest of the articles are mostly adverts dressed up as articles, they totally feed into consumerism, not to mention many other unhealthy mindsets.

and the sleb weeklies - I used to gorge myself on them & expensive glossies then feel completely vacuous & gluttonous afterwards so I made myself stop buying them. I fell off the wagon at Christmas in a rare couple of hours without the baby & I realised once and for all just how hideous they are.

So here is another challenge: BREAK THE MAGAZINE HABIT!

tyaca · 04/01/2008 11:58

cheers amazonian, will email now.

Bump - re mags, can we apply the rule of "down branding" to mags? so from grazia to take a break i go...

((ah, feck it, hand-on-heart, i LOVE take a break, not really a sacrifce!))

PrismManchip · 04/01/2008 12:00

Bumper - then you must watch the docos I linked to!
His stuff is I know not 100% gospel but it is food for thought. The people who were there are the start of PR/the marketing of consent/built-in obsolescence/advertising etc have things to say that imo should be more widely known - we are living in the aftermath of it all.
Lots about Freud and Anna Freud and psychoanalysis/how it began/why it began etc.
I have only watched one and two, there are two more, and one I remember is about marketing in much more detail.

Innat · 04/01/2008 12:02

This is a great thread - i haven't managed to read it all though so apologies if i repeat what has already been said.

I worked in Africa for two years and when i came back a couple of years ago it really hit me how much CRAP we buy in this country. And since then i have really tried to limit what i buy. The whole way we are encouraged to shop is quite shocking imo. We "treat ourselves" with a bit of retail therapy and totally agree with bumper's post about magazines.

I have a 4mo and have really bought very little for her. We were lucky enough to get most big things from family as hand me downs and i got a buggy off freecycle. What amazes me is how many people don't want 2nd hand stuff for their kids because they feel guilty for not providing the best for their children - presumably this means adverts are working. it actually makes me feel a bit sick when i go to my local baby group and it is like a showroom for quinny and bugaboo pushchairs - all shiny and brand new.

I'm also a bit cynical about the latest carseat regualtions - i suspect the research was funded or encourgaed by car seat manufacturers but i don't know this for sure. In the book freakonomics it says that the main reasons car seats have reduced death is that children are now strapped in the back rather than being on someone's lap in the front. so the "safety" of the car seat is a bit irrelevant - although i guess there is the issue of preventing whiplash and injury rather than life-threatening injuries too.

OMG i've gone off on a mega rant - what a way to introduce myself to a thread. All I should have said really is that i'm so happy there are like-minded people out there (in terms of buying stuff - not saying you should agree with my rants!)

Kammy · 04/01/2008 14:50

Haven't been on for a few days and its facinating to read everyone's threads.
I've been doing more thinking about my motivation - I think it's partly having a lot of 'stuff' in the house already, but I also worry a bit about money (want to give up work this summer to complete Msc) and have really become bothered by where stuff is made, how, by who and how far it travels. I decided not to buy anything that wasn't nessecary for 3 months as a sort of 'detox' to help me clear thoughts and see what is really nessecary. I am still going to spend on odd treats,and I will buy presents unless I can 'recycle'.
So update - suff found in the house;
2 bottles of shampoo
2 bottles conditioner
3 bottles body lotion
2 bottles body scrub
multilpe bottles of half used perfume.....
so toiletries won't be a problem!
Spent so far since new year;
£9 for cinema tickets for ds and neice, I went free with a voucher.
nothing else (I know I know it's only the 4th...)

CharlieAndLolasMummy · 04/01/2008 17:40

pruni/prism (WHY are you a prism, btw?)-I can't download the videos you linked to in a form that lets me watch them on the tv. Any tips? I hate watching tv on the computer, I am sure it must use much more energy and so on. Also my computer chair is uncomfy...

Also - I really would like to find some good leftie blogs. Or blogs about people doing this thing, but who actually have kids and aren't professionals in their 50s with 2 houses. Thoughts?

Have been shopping for boring stuff. I need to get my head around making my own bath stuff and cleaning stuff, will think on it this weekend. I need to get me into town and go to Neal's Yard for some rose petals and lavender and so forth...I would really like some nice toiletries for after the baby is born, and tbh, nothing I have seen is anything like as nice as I can make myself, for a millionth of the price.

The only thing I bought that might be considered a non-essential was stuff for the kids to make bath bombs (bicarb, baking powder, and natural food flavourings, if anyone is interested.

Have also started recording from CBeebies rather than buying DVDs, so yay me. It would help if we had a decent aerial though.

I am increasingly thinking, actually, we DON'T have much stuff. We've just never had enough money to accumulate it, really, and what we have had has always gone on buying decent quality food and cinema and other trivialities.

Crunchie · 04/01/2008 18:45

Well It is confession time I fell off the wagon a bit today

I bought a new pair of shoes

But I did REALLY REALLY Think about it first!!

Seriously I had to go into town this lunchtime as I wanted to get some Molton BRown showergel in the sale as I had promised myself it before christmas. I saw some bits for my girla, BUT RESISTED TEMPTATION and then went onto Office. They had these at £20. Now I have a pair of them in tarten that I wear ALL The time to work, and I know they are comfortable. I saw tham at £55 and couldn't justify them at that price. BUT my tarten ones are getting knackered, they needed reheeling AND I was paid today!!!

OK all no excuse and simply justifying STUFF, BUT they have been MY ONLY sale purchase, something that I wanted 2 months ago and something that matches my coat!!!!

Other than that I bought contact lens cleaner, and shoe reheeling, and decided to change my mobile SAVING £15 a month (covers the cost of teh shoes??? hopeful grin )

inamuckingfuddle · 04/01/2008 18:47

I'd like to join in too please, I'm trying v hard to be good and although I bought some birthday cards today, I resisted buying alot if other things. I also cut up the christmas cards as I took the down to use next time round and stashed the ribbons from presents, crackers etc. I have £95 in John Lewis vouchers burnign a hole in my purse though, have resisted so far...

milkyJammy · 04/01/2008 20:00

I fell off the wagon as well. We went into Sainsburys and bought a few things.

A small (serves 4), very cheap, Xmas pudding to share with friends coming for lunch next week. Then DH selected a very large Xmas pudding that is cheap for what it is, but honestly it serves 12 and there are normally only the 2 of us, and he doesn't even like xmas pudding much. But I did persuade him to only buy 1! But to be fair he wasn't the only one that spaved - I saw a blanket at half price, that I know will be great for DD when she's bigger, though I admit that technically we don't need it. We also got some very cheap (£1.30 for 6 rolls) of wrapping paper that will be used when we can't find other, less wasteful, means of wrapping presents over the coming year. I don't feel bad about that, but a bit about the blanket. And DH's pudding.

milkyJammy · 04/01/2008 20:03

And muckingfuddle - if you have vouchers I think it would be a waste NOT to spend them. After all the money has already technically been spent and is lining the stores pockets. But if it were me I would try to be "sensible" (according to whatever ideals I am trying to uphold) about what I bought. Similarly we have £40 M&S vouchers to spend and are thinking long and hard about what to do with them (£20 worth has sat in my wallet for 12 months!)

BumperliciousIsOneHotMother · 04/01/2008 20:27

Oh Jammy, I would go and do a small but luxurious grocery shop in M&S. my friend says they do nice natural cleaning products too.

I am doing ok apart from a very expensive cut and colour I have booked for next week. here's the defence for the Jury:

  1. It's money I saved from a work bonus
  2. I've been planning to do it since Oct but never got around to it
  3. I have never had a professional colour before
  4. And, well, if you saw me you would totally see why I need it! Ask Jammy!

Have been really good otherwise. I have applied for a free 6 week trial of The Week magazine, must remember to cancel the DD before it starts! Thank for the blog link too, I've book marked it.

BumperliciousIsOneHotMother · 04/01/2008 20:38

I have been concerned with myself for a while at my need, no desire for shiney new lovely things, like clothes, shoes, make-up, holidays, car etc. I hate it. I suffer very badly from envy, especially of slebs. Not of their sleb status, but more their wealth, and the way the get given stuff left right and centre, their personal chefs/stylists/trainers. Am vvv but I hate that I am.

I'm not sure what it boils down to. There is certainly an element of "if I don't know it exists I don't want it", so not buying mags or window shopping helps. I think I just convince myself that if I have nice clothes/make up/ a holiday in Barbados I will feel happier, more relaxed, more beautiful. Maybe it is a self-esteem thing, I want to look good to feel good. But I am an intelligent woman, how can I buy into the lifestyles that glossy magazines perpetuate? "If you buy this new Elizabeth Arden lipstick and you will have the life of Catherine Zeta-Jones". I am an advertisers dream. And if I am honest Mumsnet contributes a little bit: Cod consumer thread? Well if so many people recommend Mac Lip gloss I really must get it. "Look at the expensive shoes I just bought!" "I really need this Boden coat".

I no longer know whether I want things because I like and want the, or because everyone else has them and they are a must have. The "because everyone else has one" is a fairly recent thing. I've always loved shopping and having stuff, but I rarely used to care what other people though. How can I be getting more shallow as I get older?

Sorry for the random musings! Anyone have any similar thoughts?

scattyspice · 04/01/2008 20:47

Lovely shoes crunchie .

Very interesting thread. I've started writing down what I spend and only spending cash again for Jan (a useful tip from a thread a while back).

The stuff about spaving is me to a tee esp in charity shops which I hadn't thought about before (like you Charlie). .

Also will definately stop buying Grazia as have Red on subscription as Christmas present.

I like the idea Prism that if you shop less, you don't feel the need to shop. I need an alternative activity that gets me out of the house for a couple of child free hours.

inamuckingfuddle · 04/01/2008 22:17

bumperlicious you have a good point there, I often come away from a mn session thinking I need all manner of things I didn't know about beforehand!

I have ordered toy box/bench thing from JL with vouchers, to stash all the crap lovely presents my twins have received for their 4th birthday (14 dec) and christmas

Minum · 04/01/2008 22:35

Bumper - interesting post - do you not feel a bit superior to slebs as they are so shallow ? Do you really think they look great or frankly most of them a bit odd? I suffer from envy too, but towards women who own farmhouses in lovely bits of the countryside and dont have to do the ratrace which I am bored witless with, but dont seem able to escape from.

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