Will anyone be joining the DM campaign?

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I have two los, one in disposables (sorry ) and we only fill half a grey bin every two weeks. I try not to buy things in excessive packaging, and recycle whatever I can. Not difficult really.

Oh this makes me so angry. It is not difficult to seperate rubbish and only fill 1 wheelie bin a fornight.

We have someone running for councillor here (ex NF leader and I would put my money on being a DM reader at the very least) and he is running a campaign against these collections. People are saying things like "I cant be sorting my rubbish day and night" or "its making it hard to cope".

What would these people do if they had real problems?

I agree with you. We have had fortnightly collections for ages now, we have lo's in anppies and yes if you open the lid of the wheelie bin it's a bit smelly but that's all - no rats, flies etc, recycling up massive amounts. Don't get why people are moaning.

aaaahhhh!!!!the daily feckin' mail!
i wouldn't wrap me chips in it.
our council has had kerbside recycling for a good few years and it is excellent. we get the non recyclable bin emptied fortnightly and have never had bad smells, magggots or anything horrid. we put out more for recycling than not. however, some of our neighbours just chuck everything in the land fill bin which bugs the hell out of me. i think they are being lazy. also, even if they don't give two hoots about the environment, don't they know that councils will soon be fined for not meeting recycling targets? a fine which will be passed on to us???

I can do our rubbish (me + 2kids but no nappies) in 1 bin bag a week.

Rubbish isn't it!!

We are a family of 5 and only fill our wheelie bin about 1/4-1/3 full every week.
Hardly rocket science.

Since my Dh has just had to shoot the rat that was quite happily making a home in our bin, then I a up for the campaign

Do rats not like fresh rubbish - it has to have matured for at least a week before they will make a meal of it?

I'm a bit worried as I think we are about to change to fortnightly bin collections and weekly recycling collections, vice versa at the moment.

We can only recycle paper, glass, plastic and tins. No cardborad, no yoghurt pots, no butter tubs, it appears the only plastic they will accept is milk cartons.

So even though I recycle and put out a minimum of 2 carrier bags a day for recycling my wheelie bin is still full.

We've had fortnightly bin collections for over a year now - I was expecting to have problems and bought a supply of supplementary bags, but have only used two, and one was Christmas. We have paper, tins, glass, cardboard and garden waste collected.

What helps is - saving clean cardboard and plastic bottles and taking it to the tip every few weeks (before council started collecting). Both these things are clean and easy to store in old dustbin round back of shed.

Having a garden compost bin for food peelings etc - it hasn't made very good compost but at least it's a repository and rots down. And having washable nappies, that is probably the life saver.

I have not read the DM but this campaign makes me cross - they should be taken to look round a landfill and see what we are putting into our countryside. And the councils should get their act together with proper facilities/boxes etc too.

I would not worry Lact8 you soon get to know what's the main culprit for filling the bin up and then you can act on it.

My lovely neighbors won't recycle anything and we have a £1000 fine if caught (that improved out recycling rate a lot in the boro by the way). Our lot just throw everything around the front door of their house-so a 2 weekly collection would mean twice as much, blowing around my doorstep. And what about flytipping? How can you get people to be responsible?

I think this is why newspapers have such a responsibility to support recycling schemes. In the 70's people would drink drive and not use seat belts and now the majority of peoples attitudes have changed. I am not saying that everyone can be converted, but if tv news, newspapers, local government etc all give the same message and promote it, backed up with fines if required, then it would go a long way to making recycling more of a social responsibility.

We recyle and burn the rubbish on our wood burner but I still do have a problem with fortnightly collection since I have no outside space to put a wheely bin. The back garden is the equivalent of 3 stories down and the front of the house is ona track and a bin would block it. I am not going to keep 2 weeks worth of rubbish in the house, I can manage a week in the garage but after 1 week it stinks and the bags leak. There is no space for a wheely bin. If I put the bags outside the foxes get them, we live on the edge of a nature reserve and we then have to clean up the mess.

my MIL, undoubtedly

The Daily Mail is pathetic.

There is no right to landfill.

The amount of rubbish we send to landfill has quadrupled since the 70s.

But we now have recycling.

So let's use it.

I don't really understand the DM's stance tbh.

Surely it is clear to most sensible people that there are not unlimited resources on the planet and therefore it makes sense to reduce, reuse and indeed recycle?

I must admit that I would not be thrilled about having two weeks of rubbish in my home.

I live in a tenement flat in Edinburgh. The cooncil had only recently installed recycling wheelie bins nearby, until they did I used to carry all my recycling to the nearest facilty about 1 mile away. Now there are recycling bins nearby the rubbish bins are still full of stuff that can be recycled.

I just don't get it - it does not take much effort to rinse your stuff and put it in the recylcing bin right next to the bin?

The woman I work with throws paper and glass into the rubbish and it takes a lot of wil power not to delve into her bin and put it in the recycling!

Great to read your comments. They have a better campaign today here . My personal bugbear is when supermarkets wrap turnip in thick plastic. WHY?

Like many, it's my assumption that the Daily Mail and it's readers are not merely wrong, but maliciously and stupidly wrong.
But...
We separate most stuff, and have composter, but are a 5 person household, and the bin is a bit small. The council gives the same to a large family as to a loner.

Also every so often there is more than average.

Factor in as well what happens when they screw up and miss a bin, refuse to take it for no good reason, or where you happen to have been out on the day.
You then have a month's rubbish. Rotting away, smelling and attracting flies and vermin.

We have just counted nine rats going down the drain in our back yard. Half the stuff we recycled when they had recycling bins we can't recycle anymore.

oh yes lets applaud Local Authorities, doubling, trebling your Council Tax and halving their services.

This is less about the environment and more about saving Authorities ££££££££'s and pence!

With a hot summer predicted there's a good chance of a lot more illnesses from dirt and grime lying around.

It doesn't affect me and dh, there's only us two but for families it's going to be difficult especially with all the totally unnecessary packaging surrounding food and goods.

Who are all these people who only fill half a bin a fortnight - with humpty dumpteen kids too?!

Blimey, ours is full about 3 days after collection and we do recycle glass, tins and paper.

IMO they are coming in at the wrong point - they should be targeting the people that package good in such an uneconomical fashion. Then we wouldn't have so much fecking rubbish to throw away!

Agree that it is the manufacturers that should be targeted in the first place as it is them who over package!!!!

Or don't buy the overpackaged crap?

asda were on BBC breakfast asking everyone to take 'unnecessary' packaging back to them so they could try and address the problem with the manufacturers. This also solves the problem of having to fill up your own wheelie bin. OK the end reuslt will be landfil but at least someone will monitor what exactly is being thrown away and try to halt it at the supply stage.

Sorry to be the voice of dissent here, but I see anything 'green' about emptying peoples' rubbish only once a fortnight.

I lived in Europe, where they have excellent recycling records, but there would have been massive outcry if the rubbish were only removed once a fortnight.

That is just asking for vermin and the disease they bring.

If they're going to use the stick - and that seems to be all Labour EVER uses because they are too dim-witted and lazy to come up with anything more innovative - then they need to offer recycling of nearly everything.

They need to take a leaf out of Europe's book and set up the recycling facilities necessary FIRST.

But, as with public transport, they won't.

Exactly, GDG!

But this government will never go after big business first because that would cancel their gravy train.

Instead it's persecute the little guy and use taht good ol' Puritanical sense of guilt to make him feel bad.