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Elderly parents

Furious that Mom won’t accept carers

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NotTheMrMenAgain · 29/06/2024 12:51

Long story short - 3 years of treatment for 74 year old DM’s secondary cancer mets, now receiving palliative treatment. DF dead, she lives alone, only person to help her is me. Her mobility is very poor and will only get worse - zimmer at home and wheelchair to go out. Getting her in and out of the car becoming more difficult. She is on very strong painkillers which make her a bit confused - she often doesn’t know if it’s day or night, can’t remember if she’s eaten etc.

The cancer is eating her pelvis and once it fractures again there is nothing surgically they can do, so it will be game over, stuck in a bed until she dies.

She falls, frequently. 3 weeks ago she fell and was kept in hospital for 11 days, while they worked on her use of zimmer and physio etc. A few days after getting home she tried to walk across the room without using the zimmer or her sticks, so of course she fell. When I got there she told me she was using the zimmer, which was in a different room, then she said she’d been using 2 sticks - but they were nowhere near her. She tries to cruise around the house like a toddler, hanging onto furniture which moves, so she falls. I got upset and challenged her version events, she screamed at me that she wants to die anyway.

This past week she has fallen and been taken into hospital for 2 nights, was home for less than 24 hours when she fell again - nurses from a community team came to lift her but said she had to be admitted as she couldn’t remember falling and clearly wasn’t safe at home, which I completely agree with.

Just had a call from hospital social worker to say Mom is refusing a package of care because she doesn’t need any help - she has a neighbour that goes in once a week to do cleaning and I take her shopping once a week, so she’s fine.

I feel like screaming. She is clearly not coping and is not fine. I’ve been told by a friend who used to manage a care home that what mom needs is a nursing home, as she’s too far gone for a care home. One of the visiting nurses told me that even a full package of care wouldn’t be suitable as Mom will fall in between the carer visits. Meanwhile, in Mom’s deluded, she’s refused to have even a single carer visit per day.

People look at me like I should be able to sort this out. They say “Have a word with your mom” or “It’s time for a serious talk with her”, like that’s never crossed my mind for a bloody moment! I can’t talk to her. It’s like dealing with a petulant toddler - all “I want, I want” and no acceptance of the stark reality of the situation. It feels like this is a game to mom and she’s happy because she thinks she’s winning - her end goal is to be left alone in her house, but with me and various neighbours on call to help when she falls, which is unworkable and selfish.

I’m so angry and tired and sick of the whole situation. The past couple of weeks I’ve started to mentally and emotionally disengage, because it’s really dragging me down and affecting all other aspects of my life. I can’t cope with this hanging over my head all of the time, waiting for the next phone call.

I know she’s terminally ill and in pain and desperate to cling onto whatever she sees as her independence, but she’s not independent at all. She can’t go anywhere or do much without help. If she’d accept this her life would be so much better. There’s a very expensive, new nursing home locally which looks like a boutique hotel. She could be safe and looked after there, with fancy meals, activities and company for whatever is left of her life. But no, she’d rather spend it socially isolated, bored, lonely and wishing she were dead while lying in a puddle of her wee on the floor.

I can’t get my head around it and I can’t cope any more.

OP posts:
Singersong · 01/07/2024 07:29

OP that truly is wonderful news, for both of you. Isn't it crazy how all it takes sometimes is heating the same words from a different mouth!

ChaToilLeam · 01/07/2024 07:36

Three cheers for “Uncle”!

saraclara · 01/07/2024 07:56

@SierraSapphire and@BlueLegume my point was entirely to the poster whose post was purely to say that our parents just see us as six year old and thats why they don't accept advice.
And it's not that. It's because of the reasons I've said.

I also said that I've been through this with my mother. It's been a nightmare. She's been a nightmare all my life in fact, and even in death she's left me a nightmare to clear up.

But I can still understand, and have done throughout the 15 years since she had her stroke, that her life has been miserable and her physical helplessness and total lack of independence and choices has been agonising. I empathise with that, and dread it happening to me.

So yes, it was nothing to do with her seeing me as a six year old. It was a rage against her physical state. So that poster's 'oh they just see you as a six year old, that's all' WAS glib.

balzamico · 01/07/2024 08:04

She just needed an authoritative man to tell her what she needed instead of lots of kind women!
Infuriating but generational. My auntie was told "the doctor says" a lot to get her to accept things she's wouldn't from family, including moving into care

FluffyJellyCat · 01/07/2024 08:29

It's really hard OP. Just set your boundaries like it seems you have now and stick to them. Do as you was doing and no more.

Unfortunately elderly parents are free to make stupid desisions repeatedly. Your then free to let that play out. Your kids need you. Your mum will say she has you to care without checking if your up for throwing your kids under the bus for her.

She could make things easier but she chooses not to. This is conversation I have already had with my eldest kids after my mum was much the same.

Igmum · 01/07/2024 08:36

So sorry Flowers. I'm afraid it's fairly common and it's heartbreaking. Make sure social services know she isn't safe and that she needs a nursing home. They shouldn't give her a choice.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 01/07/2024 10:25

After telling SW etc. that it will certainly be an unsafe discharge, can you remove her house keys, so that if they try to take her home anyway, they won’t be able to get her inside? Sounds drastic I know, but I’ve certainly heard of people resorting to such measures when nobody will listen.

Tontostitis · 01/07/2024 10:28

I'm so sorry I'm in a similar situation and it's awful. I have no advice or help to offer just wanted to say you aren't alone 🌹

saraclara · 01/07/2024 10:31

I love your update @NotTheMrMenAgain , and I love Uncle!
It's great that your mum has accepted this at the point where she can choose where she wants to be, and has the ability to do her own research. Apart from anything else, she can't then blame you if she doesn't like the home she ends up in!

Send her to the CQC reports as well as looking at the menu options though!
Neither my mum nor MIL ended up with a choice of destination, in the end. MIL's was wonderful (council run) while mums was awful (BUPA).

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