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Law degree A Level choices

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Cannotbelievepeoplecanbesojudgemental · 18/10/2025 19:57

My DD is currently deciding upon her A Level choices. She wants to go onto university to study law. She is expected to get 8s and 9s.
This is really a question towards thise who have studied / are currently studying law. Which A Levels do you think would be best out of the following?
History
Sociology- this is her favourite GCSE currently.
Economics
English Literature
English Literature and Language combined
Law

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Araminta1003 · 23/10/2025 14:30

All true, but I think the feeding AI what to do and teaching trainees how to operate the AI effectively is all going to be part of the job too. So will all the existing skills be enough, or will new skills be required to do just that? The question now is which type of graduate is going to learn to delegate a lot to the AI and learn quickly how to operate it so the business grows and becomes even more productive? If you have a growth mindset you do not think oh AI is going to replace them all, you think how can I quickly teach the next generation to get AI to do all the drudge work and then we can do another 500 deals a year at X profit and if we can integrate internationally then X squared deals? AI becomes a tool to use and increase profit exponentially, not to replace a human cost to cost save?

BlissfullyBlue · 23/10/2025 15:02

There are a finite number of deals though, @Araminta1003. Of course we’re all thinking about how to upskill the team so that they can run a deal more efficiently. But that will mean having a couple of people + AI running the deals, rather than a team of 20.

We simply will not need the same number of bums on seats and there are already plans in my firm and others to reduce intake to allow for this.

The accountants have reached this point sooner but it’s coming for all professional services firms.

https://accountio.co.uk/accounting/ai-cuts-graduate-jobs-accounting-firms-2025/#:~:text=Four%20Firms%20Reduce%20Graduate%20Intake,PwC%20made%20a%206%25%20cut.

OhDear111 · 23/10/2025 16:49

The huge problem with AI is accuracy. We already have a case where a barrister cited two fictitious cases in court that were created by AI. If the person using AI is essentially ignorant of the facts, then AI is dangerous.

Ciri · 23/10/2025 17:27

Barristers citing fictitious cases is just because they were being lazy or because they're crap. If you go into court with cases you haven't read you are either an incompetent muppet or deliberately trying to mislead and either way you absolutely deserve to get caught and suffer the consequences.

AI is of course dangerous at the moment which is why things need checking by a senior lawyer. However even now in its infancy it can make an enormous difference to some tasks. So it can for example summarise documents very quickly and pull out specific information, it can easily do traditional dogsbody junior lawyer tasks like creating court bundles, and it can create drafts of documents when given the correct instructions in a fraction of the time it would take a human to do the same task. It is also being used by clients who can increasingly undertake legal tasks themselves which previously they would have asked a solicitor to do. Even if they don't do that, it is already common for people to ask for advice and accompany it with "But I have already run this through chatGPT so know that the position is broadly A B and C and I just need you to quickly confirm". This means some of our work is less valued by clients than it was previously (even if ChatGPT turns out to have been wrong).

There is no way we will need nearly as many junior solicitors going forwards. It's just likely to be a very different world. We will need senior lawyers (but fewer of them) to advise strategically, a reduced number of mid level solicitors and then a very small number of junior solicitors to keep numbers coming up through the ranks. It will also mean that professional support lawyers are not needed to the same extent/at all.

I suspect barristers will be a bit more protected against the incoming onslaught of AI but even there their roles will be greatly assisted by AI with a lot of time saved. AI is great at ploughing rapidly through large amounts of information. It will affect the advocacy side of this work less than it will affect the giving of legal opinions.

At the moment, AI needs using with significant caution. In a few years' time it is likely to have improved massively. The kids like the OP's picking A levels today (presumably for starting in September 26), won't be qualified for another almost 9 years if they do a law degree or almost 10 years if they do a non law degree. I am betting that it will be a very, very different landscape for them and that it will be extremely challenging to find training.

Staringintothevoid616 · 23/10/2025 17:34

OhDear111 · 23/10/2025 16:49

The huge problem with AI is accuracy. We already have a case where a barrister cited two fictitious cases in court that were created by AI. If the person using AI is essentially ignorant of the facts, then AI is dangerous.

Oh I 100% agree with you AI scraping create some interesting situations when AI tries to fill the gaps - but people by and large don’t give a shit. Less intellectually able and those who are being pressurised and those who want to make money are being dazzled by technology sales people, we will end up with a few people fact checking AI outputs and thst will be it. AO is a cancer but it’s one that makes money and in professional services that’s all that matters

Staringintothevoid616 · 23/10/2025 17:38

Ciri · 23/10/2025 17:27

Barristers citing fictitious cases is just because they were being lazy or because they're crap. If you go into court with cases you haven't read you are either an incompetent muppet or deliberately trying to mislead and either way you absolutely deserve to get caught and suffer the consequences.

AI is of course dangerous at the moment which is why things need checking by a senior lawyer. However even now in its infancy it can make an enormous difference to some tasks. So it can for example summarise documents very quickly and pull out specific information, it can easily do traditional dogsbody junior lawyer tasks like creating court bundles, and it can create drafts of documents when given the correct instructions in a fraction of the time it would take a human to do the same task. It is also being used by clients who can increasingly undertake legal tasks themselves which previously they would have asked a solicitor to do. Even if they don't do that, it is already common for people to ask for advice and accompany it with "But I have already run this through chatGPT so know that the position is broadly A B and C and I just need you to quickly confirm". This means some of our work is less valued by clients than it was previously (even if ChatGPT turns out to have been wrong).

There is no way we will need nearly as many junior solicitors going forwards. It's just likely to be a very different world. We will need senior lawyers (but fewer of them) to advise strategically, a reduced number of mid level solicitors and then a very small number of junior solicitors to keep numbers coming up through the ranks. It will also mean that professional support lawyers are not needed to the same extent/at all.

I suspect barristers will be a bit more protected against the incoming onslaught of AI but even there their roles will be greatly assisted by AI with a lot of time saved. AI is great at ploughing rapidly through large amounts of information. It will affect the advocacy side of this work less than it will affect the giving of legal opinions.

At the moment, AI needs using with significant caution. In a few years' time it is likely to have improved massively. The kids like the OP's picking A levels today (presumably for starting in September 26), won't be qualified for another almost 9 years if they do a law degree or almost 10 years if they do a non law degree. I am betting that it will be a very, very different landscape for them and that it will be extremely challenging to find training.

Yes there’s no way on earth o would be encouraging my child to enter the professional service industry these days. The best bet is to find something practical and where personal interaction is the basis of the business.

Staringintothevoid616 · 23/10/2025 17:42

Araminta1003 · 23/10/2025 14:30

All true, but I think the feeding AI what to do and teaching trainees how to operate the AI effectively is all going to be part of the job too. So will all the existing skills be enough, or will new skills be required to do just that? The question now is which type of graduate is going to learn to delegate a lot to the AI and learn quickly how to operate it so the business grows and becomes even more productive? If you have a growth mindset you do not think oh AI is going to replace them all, you think how can I quickly teach the next generation to get AI to do all the drudge work and then we can do another 500 deals a year at X profit and if we can integrate internationally then X squared deals? AI becomes a tool to use and increase profit exponentially, not to replace a human cost to cost save?

But there is only so much work. So many deals. So many divorces, so many sets of accounts etc. yes those embracing AI might grow quicker but that will just increase their market share not increase the market. Huge job losses in the professional service industry are inevitable - I’m getting out now.

BlissfullyBlue · 23/10/2025 17:49

Staringintothevoid616 · 23/10/2025 17:38

Yes there’s no way on earth o would be encouraging my child to enter the professional service industry these days. The best bet is to find something practical and where personal interaction is the basis of the business.

Agree with all of this. Anyone who is properly using AI now, and sees its potential directly, would understand and steer their children away from the view that professional services offer a stable career path.

And it is coming soon - the difference between GPT/Gemini now in comparison with a year ago is immense and it’s error/hallucination rate is dropping rapidly.

Equally, I don’t know what jobs will be safe. It will be the Wild West in a couple of years.

Araminta1003 · 23/10/2025 18:20

https://news.mit.edu/2025/explained-generative-ai-environmental-impact-0117

Is our old infrastructure even going to cope with all of this AI?
It is one thing for businesses trying to stay competitive with each other and make a profit, but the cost to society of getting rid of jobs and turning our backs on the green agenda completely- at some point the Government will wake up to this. Businesses too heavily reliant on AI may well be regulated or penalised for it.
And professional insurance won’t cover AI inaccuracy fully either? So is it actually going to save money or not, and improve productivity for the whole of society, or not? Or is it just a craze? Presumably Sociology itself is looking at the impact of AI.

None of my DC want to do law. One is already in tech and has been extremely lucky by being involved with a massive ground breaking project. The younger two want to be engineers.

I would have thought Data Science/Analytics and Cyber Security would be safe areas to go into, for example.

Explained: Generative AI’s environmental impact

MIT News explores the environmental and sustainability implications of generative AI technologies and applications.

https://news.mit.edu/2025/explained-generative-ai-environmental-impact-0117

Staringintothevoid616 · 23/10/2025 19:59

Araminta1003 · 23/10/2025 18:20

https://news.mit.edu/2025/explained-generative-ai-environmental-impact-0117

Is our old infrastructure even going to cope with all of this AI?
It is one thing for businesses trying to stay competitive with each other and make a profit, but the cost to society of getting rid of jobs and turning our backs on the green agenda completely- at some point the Government will wake up to this. Businesses too heavily reliant on AI may well be regulated or penalised for it.
And professional insurance won’t cover AI inaccuracy fully either? So is it actually going to save money or not, and improve productivity for the whole of society, or not? Or is it just a craze? Presumably Sociology itself is looking at the impact of AI.

None of my DC want to do law. One is already in tech and has been extremely lucky by being involved with a massive ground breaking project. The younger two want to be engineers.

I would have thought Data Science/Analytics and Cyber Security would be safe areas to go into, for example.

Well according to a poster on here sociology is pretty pointless an an easy subject lol.

But yes AI is yet another shit show people are walking blindly into. It’s like no one has ever read any dystopian novels. We’re living in a Huxleian nightmare!

OhDear111 · 23/10/2025 23:33

@Ciri The (singular) barrister was undoubtedly lazy but the point is they believed AI. Clearly foolish and it was noticed the cases were fiction. Barrister admonished by the Judge. However it clearly shows it’s inaccurate and not to be trusted. Yet people will.

BlissfullyBlue · 23/10/2025 23:55

But competent users of AI will not do this. It is the equivalent of repeating verbatim what a trainee has said - no decent lawyer should make that mistake.

It’s important also not to extrapolate from a handful of incidences. The broader picture is that:

(a) hallucination rates are dropping. The LLMs are much more accurate now than even a year ago. In a couple of years’ time, I’d expect hallucinations to be minimal;

(b) sophisticated users can further reduce hallucination rates by engineering prompts and background instructions so as to prioritise accuracy above delivering a solution at all costs;

(c) the free models are more much error prone than the professional, paid for versions. I suspect an individual barrister, as opposed to a city law firm building professional level LLMs into their research suite, may not have used the highest quality option; and

(d) humans are also error prone. Maybe not the extent of making up whole cases but in other respects. The comparison will be between one slightly flawed but slow and expensive resource, versus another slightly flawed but quick and cheap resources.

Anecdotes about mistakes with entry level AI are comforting, and support a narrative that human jobs are not really threatened. However anyone who is following developments closely, and actively using AI on a day to day basis, would see that as false comfort.

Coldsoup · 24/10/2025 00:28

There'll be plenty of jobs for lawyers , they just won't all look like they do now. And it probably will be harder to break in at entry level, because law firms may shift away from recruiting a glut of trainees

I am quite looking forward to sorting out the messes made by AI /users of AI in my field.

And I bet there will be a whole new area of IT law that is really busy dealing with the legal fall out from increased use of AI.

And the courts will definitely be busy Grin

If anyone thinks the world of AI will be lawyer less then they don't understand law and they don't understand AI.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 24/10/2025 00:34

an Essay based subject and then whatever traditional subjects she can get the best grades in. She can make anything relevant, eg French, we have debates and this will be useful for me to make clear consice points in my legal letters and arguments etc
i think English language would help too

TheaBrandt1 · 24/10/2025 06:43

My legal work involves complex family counselling and analysis of familial relationships and how that intersects with the law, frequently at someone’s deathbed. I genuinely don’t think I could have done my job well in my twenties life experience is key. I’d like to see a robot do that.

Coldsoup · 24/10/2025 07:20

TheaBrandt1 · 24/10/2025 06:43

My legal work involves complex family counselling and analysis of familial relationships and how that intersects with the law, frequently at someone’s deathbed. I genuinely don’t think I could have done my job well in my twenties life experience is key. I’d like to see a robot do that.

Exactly, I think anything like that is pretty safe from AI.

Equally i can't see criminals at a police station wanting to talk to a chat bot and I can't see the law ever saying that is sufficient.

NeverHadHaveHas · 24/10/2025 07:48

I’m a lawyer and did English lit, politics and history.

OhDear111 · 24/10/2025 07:50

@BlissfullyBlue I suspect it was reported as warning. Don’t take short cuts. I haven’t remotely thought everyone would do this.

OhDear111 · 24/10/2025 07:58

@clary Cambridge list Law as a suitable A level for Law. Whether they recruit many with it is another matter.

Yes, those old facilitating subjects of English Lit and History certainly keep more doors open. Competitive courses at the more elite LNAT end value MFLs and Maths as subjects offered too. However 2/3 should be from this facilitating group ideally, and one other. The other subject should be one dc can get a high grade in but should probably not be DT or Photography. An essay subject is probably best reflecting interests but a science would be fine too.

Ciri · 24/10/2025 08:20

Coldsoup · 24/10/2025 00:28

There'll be plenty of jobs for lawyers , they just won't all look like they do now. And it probably will be harder to break in at entry level, because law firms may shift away from recruiting a glut of trainees

I am quite looking forward to sorting out the messes made by AI /users of AI in my field.

And I bet there will be a whole new area of IT law that is really busy dealing with the legal fall out from increased use of AI.

And the courts will definitely be busy Grin

If anyone thinks the world of AI will be lawyer less then they don't understand law and they don't understand AI.

Nobody is saying lawyerless. Just much reduced and changed.

its incredibly naive to think AI isn’t going to result in a significantly reduced need for humans in law.

My field (employment) also needs humans due to the advocacy and things like negotiation but alongside those tasks, I do many things that will be able to be done by AI. There aren’t many legal jobs that don’t involve significant amounts of reading and drafting. In ten years time when a current year 10 qualifies, nobody is going to need to pay them a few thousand pounds to draft an employee handbook or review a contract or prepare bundles or draft TUPE warranties or write a letter threatening breach of restrictive covenant. All of these can already be done by AI in seconds and just checked over by someone with experience. A task that once took me three hours can already be done in ten minutes if I made the decision to use AI.

We will always need some humans and we will always need some at the bottom for succession planning. Some tasks aren’t easily carried out by AI. I also have another legal role which I will continue which can’t be easily replaced (at least I hope not or we really would be living in some kind of dystopian hell). But kids contemplating law as a profession need to understand that the competition for the reduced number of jobs will be fierce because universities are already churning out far more law graduates than we need.

Staringintothevoid616 · 24/10/2025 09:13

BlissfullyBlue · 23/10/2025 23:55

But competent users of AI will not do this. It is the equivalent of repeating verbatim what a trainee has said - no decent lawyer should make that mistake.

It’s important also not to extrapolate from a handful of incidences. The broader picture is that:

(a) hallucination rates are dropping. The LLMs are much more accurate now than even a year ago. In a couple of years’ time, I’d expect hallucinations to be minimal;

(b) sophisticated users can further reduce hallucination rates by engineering prompts and background instructions so as to prioritise accuracy above delivering a solution at all costs;

(c) the free models are more much error prone than the professional, paid for versions. I suspect an individual barrister, as opposed to a city law firm building professional level LLMs into their research suite, may not have used the highest quality option; and

(d) humans are also error prone. Maybe not the extent of making up whole cases but in other respects. The comparison will be between one slightly flawed but slow and expensive resource, versus another slightly flawed but quick and cheap resources.

Anecdotes about mistakes with entry level AI are comforting, and support a narrative that human jobs are not really threatened. However anyone who is following developments closely, and actively using AI on a day to day basis, would see that as false comfort.

I would agree.knowledge based jobs are completely under threat by AI. You can recognise that AI will be more competent at handling large amounts of information than humans very soon and at the same time recognise AI as extraordinarily harmful for society at many levels.

Im leaving a very similar profession to law, I will be taking a massive pay cut in whatever I do because the only future I see in it is not one I can be part of. Only a fool would be looking to join those kinds of professions these days imo.

Ciri · 24/10/2025 09:13

I do think we are derailing the thread a little now with discussion on AI and the legal profession. Sorry OP.

My advice remains to year 10s to pick A level subjects that you stand the best chance of getting the highest grades in.

LadyMacMuffin · 24/10/2025 09:15

In any case reading law doesn't mean you have to work as lawyer. It can be the gateway to many things.

Ciri · 24/10/2025 09:15

OhDear111 · 23/10/2025 23:33

@Ciri The (singular) barrister was undoubtedly lazy but the point is they believed AI. Clearly foolish and it was noticed the cases were fiction. Barrister admonished by the Judge. However it clearly shows it’s inaccurate and not to be trusted. Yet people will.

Then frankly they were a fuckwit. No place for fuckwits in the legal profession. There are plenty of them but most get found out fairly quickly and moved along.

Staringintothevoid616 · 24/10/2025 09:23

LadyMacMuffin · 24/10/2025 09:15

In any case reading law doesn't mean you have to work as lawyer. It can be the gateway to many things.

I’m interested why other professions you think law leads to that aren’t affected by the sane challenges (and also ideas for myself😀)

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