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14yo school refusal and DS is being violent towards me, don't know what to do anymore

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Bdireas · 13/09/2025 12:15

Sorry this is long and prob all over the place but my head is a mess right now. My ds is 14, just started year 10 last week (he turned 14 in the summer) and we are already in a nightmare with school. He just will not go.

Since Monday its been a battle every single morning. He stays in bed and refuses point blank to get up, pulls the covers over his head and tells me to f off. If I try and pull the duvet he lashes out, kicking and shouting. On Wednesday he shoved me so hard I nearly fell into the wall. Yesterday he threw a shoe at me when I was begging him to at least just get dressed. He ended up not going in at all 3 days this week.

Thing is it hasn’t come out of nowhere. In year 7 he was okish at the start, not top of the class but he went in most days, had detentions for forgetting homework and talking too much but teachers said he was clever if he applied himself. By year 8 it got worse, he started saying teachers hated him, getting isolated a few times for arguing and answering back. They rang me loads to come and collect him cos he refused lessons. He got one suspension last year for swearing at a teacher and walking out of class.

Now year 10 is GCSEs and he says he cant do it, its too hard, he doesnt see the point. He says school makes him feel sick. He said on Monday morning “I’m not going, I’d rather be dead than sit in that place again” and then he slammed his door so hard the frame cracked. I was shaking after.

At home it feels like all the anger comes out on me. If I try to take his phone at night he will grab it back off me, pushing me out the way. He towers over me shouting right in my face. He has called me a bitch more times than I can count. My younger dd (9) hides in her room when he starts, she says her tummy hurts when he is like that. I feel like I am letting her down too.

School keep saying he needs to be in or they will fine me but I dont no how I am supposed to physically get a 14 yr old boy who is taller and stronger than me out of bed and into uniform when he is threatening and hitting out. Last year they mentioned maybe CAMHS or behaviour support but nothing happened and the GP said waitlist is massive. I feel like no one listens until it ends up in total crisis.

His dad is useless, he sees him once every month or two and just says I need to be stricter, but when I try to set rules ds just goes nuclear. Dad never sees that side. He just takes him for Nando’s and buys him trainers so of course ds worships him and hates me.

I am so ashamed. I feel like other mums cope fine with teenagers being moody but mine is violent, refusing school and making my life hell. I dont no what to do anymore. I’ve cried nearly every night this week after fighting with him. I feel like I am living with a stranger, not my little boy.

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SeriouslyStressed · 13/09/2025 16:27

My son knows that if he is violent to me or refuses to go to school he will be going to live with his dad. Is that an option for you?

EasySqueezy · 13/09/2025 17:12

It probably isn't your ideal solution but can he be homeschooled? At 14 he could possibly follow online courses and maybe have some one to one tuition. Maybe once the pressure is off and he doesn't have to go to school he would buckle down and work a bit. He can always go to college later on.

BreakingBroken · 13/09/2025 17:25

I’d get an ed psych and psych assessment. Switch to online education with loads of educational outings.
It doesn’t sound like the school is a good fit for him.

Imisscoffee2021 · 13/09/2025 17:44

ginasevern · 13/09/2025 16:25

Right, so what do you suggest? My teenage son started to display similar behaviour back in the late 80's. He was 14 years old and 6ft tall whilst I was 5ft and 7 stone. My ex husband saw him occasionally and, just like the OP's ex, was useless. My son was an only child who had previously been bright, loving and happy and all of this came out of the blue. To say I was beside myself is the understatement of the century. Back then there was no help at all, no CAHMS or anything like it. The only intervention I received was a visit from the School Pastor who told me I was immoral as a divorcee and that my middle class, educated background had led me to spoil my child. In desperation I took my son's games console away along with all other "privileges". He pushed me down the stairs, stabbed me and knocked two of my teeth out. He was subsequently diagnosed with schizoaffective disorder in his mid twenties. I'm honestly asking what you would have done in that situation.

I'm commenting on the ops situation not anyone else's, and said put school refusal aside and address the violence first. If he's not feeling pushed to school he may have some breathing space to calm down and address the behaviours that are most prevalent and most damaging atm. Which are violent acts.

RedSkyatNight25 · 13/09/2025 17:45

MrsPengiuins · 13/09/2025 15:55

It sounds like school is making him suicidal, not uncommon with asd type boys (about 40% get suicidal and a similar number of parents due to the constant threats and punishment approach) and there's pretty much nothing out there from cahms/school/LA unless you can pay privately until they attempt suicide/are beyond broken. No adult made suicidal by their job would be expected to go to work and then punished at home. Its why we have record NEET numbers as the system is completely broken and failing children like this. Some schools are better than others, or withdraw him. I would not tolerate violence but he's a child desperately needing help and not getting any from school and a largely absent dad.

I don’t know if he feels suicidal but I am disappointed by the comments. Violence absolutely isn’t acceptable but if an adult felt this way about work nobodies solution would be to punish the adult.

ScrollingLeaves · 13/09/2025 20:03

ginasevern · 13/09/2025 16:25

Right, so what do you suggest? My teenage son started to display similar behaviour back in the late 80's. He was 14 years old and 6ft tall whilst I was 5ft and 7 stone. My ex husband saw him occasionally and, just like the OP's ex, was useless. My son was an only child who had previously been bright, loving and happy and all of this came out of the blue. To say I was beside myself is the understatement of the century. Back then there was no help at all, no CAHMS or anything like it. The only intervention I received was a visit from the School Pastor who told me I was immoral as a divorcee and that my middle class, educated background had led me to spoil my child. In desperation I took my son's games console away along with all other "privileges". He pushed me down the stairs, stabbed me and knocked two of my teeth out. He was subsequently diagnosed with schizoaffective disorder in his mid twenties. I'm honestly asking what you would have done in that situation.

How dreadful for you and him. What could you have done, nothing.

What happened to him in the end. Do you think the diagnosis might be different these days?

ScrollingLeaves · 14/09/2025 09:14

I have been reading about Low Demand Parenting and Emotionally Based School Refusal OP. There are some ideas there which could help you think of next steps.

Ilovelurchers · 14/09/2025 09:42

Whatever is causing it, he is abusing you emotionally and physically with the pushing and intimidation - and this is also having a terrible impact on your young DD, who does no deserve this.

If he cannot or will not stop, terrible as this sounds, I think maybe you need to look into whether his father can have him full time for the moment. It may not be the best environment for him, but you and your daughter have a right not to be frightened in your own home.

mamagogo1 · 14/09/2025 09:46

his dad needs to step up, is he local ish? Don’t take no for an answer, unless there’s a safeguarding risk dad needs to take his son to his house and take over the full time parenting duties, if your son wants to come home then it’s on the condition of attending school daily and respect for you.

AmberLime · 14/09/2025 10:04

Children need their parents to be in charge.

The rules and boundaries we create at home (and school, and in society in general) serve to create safety - both a metaphorical feeling of safety (which brings contentment) and physical safety (which includes better outcomes in life).

There are a lot of psychological layers to your child's behaviour OP. But they all ultimately come down to you not being 'in charge' at home.

It's not possible to say if this is EBSA ir additional needs, because until you can assert boundaries and reasonable expectations at home then the lack of these will overshadow everything else. Likewise any MH needs. He certainly will have MH needs, but the primary cause of this at the moment is lack of calm contentment bought about by lack of rules, boundaries and expectations.

It's really clear the first thing that needs to be solved here. It might just be your use of typing, but you shouldn't be "begging" him to do anything. You know what you need to do, it seems that you might benefit from a few extra tools in your armour so you have different ways to achieve what you know needs to happen - in ways that promote a positive relationship and without violence. Early Help can do that, as school. There are parenting courses. But you'll need to accept the need to change your approach at home.

ginasevern · 14/09/2025 11:26

ScrollingLeaves · 13/09/2025 20:03

How dreadful for you and him. What could you have done, nothing.

What happened to him in the end. Do you think the diagnosis might be different these days?

Thank you for your kind words. It was truly awful and I don't know how I kept my own sanity. I know things are really bad these days but when I say there was no support back then, I mean there was literally nothing. There was no mental health provision for children/young people (so CAHMS and the like didn't exist) and anyone displaying unusual behaviour or not going to school was basically thought to be either a spoilt brat or a delinquent. I was constantly getting threatened with court action for his non-attendance at school. He was diagnosed in his twenties when things had "improved" somewhat and thankfully a new GP took over at our practice who was more enlightened. I believe the diagnosis of psychosis would still be the same today. He was put on medication but he's never really been able to work. He's 50 now and still lives with me. We jog along but I worry what will happen when I die. Thank you so much for asking.

FlappicusSmith · 14/09/2025 12:02

One other thing I just thought of - look into NVR (non-violent resistance). As I understand it, 'non-violent' here refers not just to physical, but also verbal. It's a way of reducing conflict, reconnecting and re-establishing boundaries. This book was recommended to me (parenting a very combative ND tween).

www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/1546718702/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&psc=1

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