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School "Culture Day' - why didn't school see this coming?

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mids2019 · 16/07/2025 06:10

https://www.joe.co.uk/news/school-issues-statement-after-sending-girl-home-for-wearing-union-jack-dress-496690?fbclid=IwY2xjawLkEB9leHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHmXD4szLMfsqNubbE12kCn_Noe5jb2VGlNFVU0_IUIevHxzByCQ-5GXFN8F8_aem_P-q7I_yFCq82TY-Qr8mGdw

A local school state d a huge debate by sending a girl home on school culture day for wearing a union Jack dress. The question is why the school should have naively held an event which actually least a to more division than unity?

My daughter (white British) attended a similar event, for which she paid a pound, and dressed in jeans and t shirt. I asked how she had decided upon the attire and she stated 'well I don't have a culture'. I then had to explain that she did have a culture and even the jeans and t shirt were a product of fashion changes in western liberal society. We had a discussion about all the great products of white British culture, the music,science, results of the industrial revolution, shared experience in great wars, monarchy etc.

There is a white British culture but going into detail about this obviously brings into focus cultural divide and opens up divisive areas whether white British culture benefited from colonialism and past oppression.

Of course culture day probably was meant to highlight minority cultures and act to promote dress etc. from ethnic minorities as a welcoming inclusive gesture but by allowing all pupils to think about their culture we have to define 'white British' culture and by defining 'white British' culture schools have inadvertently started a discussion they didn't intend.

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WhereYouLeftIt · 17/07/2025 10:52

bumblecoach · 17/07/2025 10:49

As she lives in Rugby, it’ll be easy enough for all the other children in the school to send her to Coventry!

Are you quite right in the head? Because that's not how you're coming across, @bumblecoach.

bumblecoach · 17/07/2025 10:53

WhereYouLeftIt · 17/07/2025 10:50

Make your mind up. Is she "the little racist" or "an innocent little girl"?

And - "There is time for her to be saved"? Well that would explain the religious fervour in your tone, I suppose!

Give your head a wobble.

You would never meet a less religious person than myself.
She is A puppet being used, And expressing racist views. I’ll give her the benefit of the doubt at the moment because she’s 12, Most 12-year-olds are little pricks. They grow out of it if it’s allowed.

EasternStandard · 17/07/2025 10:55

WhereYouLeftIt · 17/07/2025 10:52

Are you quite right in the head? Because that's not how you're coming across, @bumblecoach.

I think the school should be aware of any adult expressing this level of anger at a 12 year old in a dress

bumblecoach · 17/07/2025 10:57

EasternStandard · 17/07/2025 10:55

I think the school should be aware of any adult expressing this level of anger at a 12 year old in a dress

Shall I give them a ring or pop down?

SleeplessInWherever · 17/07/2025 10:58

bumblecoach · 17/07/2025 10:57

Shall I give them a ring or pop down?

You’ll get excluded from a school you don’t go to, for not liking flag dresses 😂😂

EasternStandard · 17/07/2025 10:58

bumblecoach · 17/07/2025 10:57

Shall I give them a ring or pop down?

I’d say stay away. You sound extreme.

But if there are any like you then the school should look after the students and keep them away.

bumblecoach · 17/07/2025 11:00

EasternStandard · 17/07/2025 10:58

I’d say stay away. You sound extreme.

But if there are any like you then the school should look after the students and keep them away.

I’m not extreme at all in any way shape or form
I see my post has been deleted. I shall phrase it another way. The 12-year-old will suffer the consequences of her father’s actions one way or another either by being ostracised or worse
There’s still plenty of time for her to change her ways though she is only 12

EasternStandard · 17/07/2025 11:00

SleeplessInWherever · 17/07/2025 10:58

You’ll get excluded from a school you don’t go to, for not liking flag dresses 😂😂

Weren’t you the one wanting to contact prevent?

All normal.

Barbadossunset · 17/07/2025 11:01

The 12-year-old will suffer the consequences of her father’s actions one way or another either by being ostracised or worse

What form would ‘worse’ take?

EasternStandard · 17/07/2025 11:01

bumblecoach · 17/07/2025 11:00

I’m not extreme at all in any way shape or form
I see my post has been deleted. I shall phrase it another way. The 12-year-old will suffer the consequences of her father’s actions one way or another either by being ostracised or worse
There’s still plenty of time for her to change her ways though she is only 12

Good I’m glad it was deleted. Try to rein in your anger about a dress and / or the Union Jack.

SleeplessInWherever · 17/07/2025 11:04

EasternStandard · 17/07/2025 11:00

Weren’t you the one wanting to contact prevent?

All normal.

Refer to Prevent, you mean.

Personally, no. I have neither the means nor authority. I don’t work for any of the sectors that even use that service.

However, having worked in education, if this kid does end up rubbing shoulders with TR and speaking at his events, someone probably will refer, because that’s a safeguarding concern.

Dressing your kid up like a flag joint of gammon, and then encouraging her to associate with a known right wing criminal? All normal. Totally normal.

SleeplessInWherever · 17/07/2025 11:06

Barbadossunset · 17/07/2025 11:01

The 12-year-old will suffer the consequences of her father’s actions one way or another either by being ostracised or worse

What form would ‘worse’ take?

Racists have this habit of attacking people and then complaining when they do it back.

Last summer some thugs smashed up a mosque near me, and then were super shocked when they got punched firmly in the face.

That, probably. Actions have consequences.

EasternStandard · 17/07/2025 11:06

SleeplessInWherever · 17/07/2025 11:04

Refer to Prevent, you mean.

Personally, no. I have neither the means nor authority. I don’t work for any of the sectors that even use that service.

However, having worked in education, if this kid does end up rubbing shoulders with TR and speaking at his events, someone probably will refer, because that’s a safeguarding concern.

Dressing your kid up like a flag joint of gammon, and then encouraging her to associate with a known right wing criminal? All normal. Totally normal.

You and the pp seem to conflate timings.

The girl wore a dress and you had already talked about ‘referring’ to prevent.

I’m glad you and the angry pp are not making decisions. The school, bar their initial mistake, seem better equipped to apologise and move on.

bumblecoach · 17/07/2025 11:07

EasternStandard · 17/07/2025 11:06

You and the pp seem to conflate timings.

The girl wore a dress and you had already talked about ‘referring’ to prevent.

I’m glad you and the angry pp are not making decisions. The school, bar their initial mistake, seem better equipped to apologise and move on.

I’ll let you into a little secret. I don’t think they meant the apology.

Barbadossunset · 17/07/2025 11:08

Dressing your kid up like a flag.

If a child of Chinese ethnicity dressed up in a flag with a hammer and sickle would you find that acceptable?

SleeplessInWherever · 17/07/2025 11:08

EasternStandard · 17/07/2025 11:06

You and the pp seem to conflate timings.

The girl wore a dress and you had already talked about ‘referring’ to prevent.

I’m glad you and the angry pp are not making decisions. The school, bar their initial mistake, seem better equipped to apologise and move on.

Your reading comprehension needs some real work.

Her father, associated with an actual right wing criminal. That, is a risk to his child. Which is what the school would monitor.

The dress is a red herring. Her father is a racist idiot, and that is what the school would keep an eye on and refer if necessary.

Do you like all racists, or just the ones who dress their kids up like 90s popstars?

WhereYouLeftIt · 17/07/2025 11:09

bumblecoach · 17/07/2025 10:53

You would never meet a less religious person than myself.
She is A puppet being used, And expressing racist views. I’ll give her the benefit of the doubt at the moment because she’s 12, Most 12-year-olds are little pricks. They grow out of it if it’s allowed.

No, you've clearly adopted a religion. It may not be a recognised religion, but it's definitely a religion, putting 'faith' before facts and reason. Someone says something bad about another person and you jump right in there, taking your chance to demonstrate your virtue by taking the bad someone else said and embroidering it and amplifying it, painting someone you don't know as the devil incarnate. All the while preening yourself because you're a good person. How can you not be a good person, surrounded by such wickedness that you yourself do not partake of!

It's like Holy Willie's Prayer (Rabbie Burns - part of my culture and heritage).

HonoriaBulstrode · 17/07/2025 11:09

joint of gammon

Well that's racist isn't it.

EasternStandard · 17/07/2025 11:10

SleeplessInWherever · 17/07/2025 11:08

Your reading comprehension needs some real work.

Her father, associated with an actual right wing criminal. That, is a risk to his child. Which is what the school would monitor.

The dress is a red herring. Her father is a racist idiot, and that is what the school would keep an eye on and refer if necessary.

Do you like all racists, or just the ones who dress their kids up like 90s popstars?

Your reading comprehension needs some real work.

They’ll take action when appropriate, if it ever is. Not due to a dress. That was their mistake, which they’ve realised.

SleeplessInWherever · 17/07/2025 11:10

Barbadossunset · 17/07/2025 11:08

Dressing your kid up like a flag.

If a child of Chinese ethnicity dressed up in a flag with a hammer and sickle would you find that acceptable?

That depends what level of extremist their father was.

A kid comes in with a German flag and his dad is a known Nazi? Alarm bells.

Kid comes in with a German flag with no other known information and he just happens to be German? Bit different.

Context 😂

SleeplessInWherever · 17/07/2025 11:11

HonoriaBulstrode · 17/07/2025 11:09

joint of gammon

Well that's racist isn't it.

It’s not, because racist isn’t a race.

bumblecoach · 17/07/2025 11:12

WhereYouLeftIt · 17/07/2025 11:09

No, you've clearly adopted a religion. It may not be a recognised religion, but it's definitely a religion, putting 'faith' before facts and reason. Someone says something bad about another person and you jump right in there, taking your chance to demonstrate your virtue by taking the bad someone else said and embroidering it and amplifying it, painting someone you don't know as the devil incarnate. All the while preening yourself because you're a good person. How can you not be a good person, surrounded by such wickedness that you yourself do not partake of!

It's like Holy Willie's Prayer (Rabbie Burns - part of my culture and heritage).

What utter drivel

SleeplessInWherever · 17/07/2025 11:12

EasternStandard · 17/07/2025 11:10

Your reading comprehension needs some real work.

They’ll take action when appropriate, if it ever is. Not due to a dress. That was their mistake, which they’ve realised.

Edited

That apology was PR politeness. Surely we’re all smart enough to see that.

EasternStandard · 17/07/2025 11:14

SleeplessInWherever · 17/07/2025 11:08

Your reading comprehension needs some real work.

Her father, associated with an actual right wing criminal. That, is a risk to his child. Which is what the school would monitor.

The dress is a red herring. Her father is a racist idiot, and that is what the school would keep an eye on and refer if necessary.

Do you like all racists, or just the ones who dress their kids up like 90s popstars?

On your last question interesting you use the term racist to justify action against a child, who followed an invitation to an event.

I can see why schools need systems to stop adults doing this.

SleeplessInWherever · 17/07/2025 11:17

EasternStandard · 17/07/2025 11:14

On your last question interesting you use the term racist to justify action against a child, who followed an invitation to an event.

I can see why schools need systems to stop adults doing this.

We get it, you like flags and Tommy Robinson.

The action was get changed or go home, she wasn’t tortured or attacked, she was given two options (the video in the Mail, with her speaking, says she was told to get changed). What an absolute load of melodrama about a kid being sent home from school.

Her father chose media frenzy.

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