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School "Culture Day' - why didn't school see this coming?

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mids2019 · 16/07/2025 06:10

https://www.joe.co.uk/news/school-issues-statement-after-sending-girl-home-for-wearing-union-jack-dress-496690?fbclid=IwY2xjawLkEB9leHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHmXD4szLMfsqNubbE12kCn_Noe5jb2VGlNFVU0_IUIevHxzByCQ-5GXFN8F8_aem_P-q7I_yFCq82TY-Qr8mGdw

A local school state d a huge debate by sending a girl home on school culture day for wearing a union Jack dress. The question is why the school should have naively held an event which actually least a to more division than unity?

My daughter (white British) attended a similar event, for which she paid a pound, and dressed in jeans and t shirt. I asked how she had decided upon the attire and she stated 'well I don't have a culture'. I then had to explain that she did have a culture and even the jeans and t shirt were a product of fashion changes in western liberal society. We had a discussion about all the great products of white British culture, the music,science, results of the industrial revolution, shared experience in great wars, monarchy etc.

There is a white British culture but going into detail about this obviously brings into focus cultural divide and opens up divisive areas whether white British culture benefited from colonialism and past oppression.

Of course culture day probably was meant to highlight minority cultures and act to promote dress etc. from ethnic minorities as a welcoming inclusive gesture but by allowing all pupils to think about their culture we have to define 'white British' culture and by defining 'white British' culture schools have inadvertently started a discussion they didn't intend.

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CurlewKate · 16/07/2025 12:13

Floradear · 16/07/2025 12:11

@CurlewKate I understood from the first report I saw that she spent the day in Reception by herself.
Apologies if wrong.😊

That’s not why it says in the report at the top of this thread. But who knows?

Floradear · 16/07/2025 12:13

how do we know he is “uneducated
In one photo he is standing next to a transit van and he is not wearing a tie.

SleeplessInWherever · 16/07/2025 12:14

OhCrumbsWhereNow · 16/07/2025 12:06

But what has that got to do with her wearing an entirely appropriate dress for a school event?

Should Courtney be permanently in isolation lest daddy's political views infect her classmates? And does being a Tommy Robinson supporter make you a member of a proscribed group?

If school knew that Courtney's dad was likely to take umbrage at their reaction then they were very silly to do anything other than be relieved her dress was actually a decent length.

Weirdly lots of us support freedom of speech - bit of a British thing allowing that. I wouldn't be signing my own child up to take the stage at any political event (I don't like children in politics - yes Greta, I am looking at you) but if others choose to do it then that's up to them.

I'm very much leaning towards voting Reform at the next GE... all the Parties are equally crap right now and I suspect they will be no better, but it will be so much fun watching 5 years of pearl clutching and wailing from the out-of-touch illiberal lefties.

If school knew that Courtney's dad was likely to take umbrage at their reaction then they were very silly to do anything other than be relieved her dress was actually a decent length.

Since when did schools start measuring their responses to things based on whether someone’s parent will take umbrage. I don’t think so.

He sent her in wearing it to get a reaction, and received a reaction. Textbook goading behaviour. Knew exactly what he was doing.

But no way should the school be judging how to respond to something based on how bothered her father would be.

EasternStandard · 16/07/2025 12:14

Digdongdoo · 16/07/2025 12:12

Apparently. According to one man with no evidence.

The school have apologised. It’s more on mn that posters are going for the girl for some reason.

MyHeartyCoralSnail · 16/07/2025 12:14

Merrymouse · 16/07/2025 12:11

Because they are gullible?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-25862838

People should certainly be free to express different political opinions, but please choose leaders who aren't convicted con artists.

Edited

Supporters of the left, those waving round Palestine flags are far more gullible. People are experiencing very real issues and have been for years, those in power are ignoring them, they feel that people like Robinson listen to them.

Digdongdoo · 16/07/2025 12:16

EasternStandard · 16/07/2025 12:14

The school have apologised. It’s more on mn that posters are going for the girl for some reason.

The school have apologized for how it was handled. To this one family. Not apologised for making the wrong decision, not apologised for supposedly sending multiple kids home. Just for how they handled it.

MyHeartyCoralSnail · 16/07/2025 12:16

EasternStandard · 16/07/2025 12:14

The school have apologised. It’s more on mn that posters are going for the girl for some reason.

Because they don’t like yet more proof their multiculturalism and globalisation ideology has failed

StarlightRobot · 16/07/2025 12:16

I don’t think her speech was goady at all. She had an argument which was made well about not celebrating British culture as the culture of the majority. She had a good point. In Australia there is Australia day (yes- I know controversial and often called invasion day), in the US there is the 4th of July, other countries have similar day. Her speech also had a fantastic message about celebrating all cultures. If anyone thinks that is goady then they are part of the problem.

OhCrumbsWhereNow · 16/07/2025 12:17

SleeplessInWherever · 16/07/2025 12:14

If school knew that Courtney's dad was likely to take umbrage at their reaction then they were very silly to do anything other than be relieved her dress was actually a decent length.

Since when did schools start measuring their responses to things based on whether someone’s parent will take umbrage. I don’t think so.

He sent her in wearing it to get a reaction, and received a reaction. Textbook goading behaviour. Knew exactly what he was doing.

But no way should the school be judging how to respond to something based on how bothered her father would be.

But the dress was entirely in keeping with what the school asked children to come in. So why did they have an issue with her or the others they sent home?

The letter didn't say 'no flags'

CurlewKate · 16/07/2025 12:18

OutandAboutMum1821 · 16/07/2025 12:06

I agree, I detest ‘Happy Holidays’. I have loads of friends from different countries and religions who all wish me ‘Happy Christmas/Easter’, and likewise I wish them Eid Mubarak/Happy Diwali/Gung Hay Fat Choi. Some have been very touched I knew when Diwali was. Nobody is offended in real life by using proper names for any celebration, beyond ridiculous!

People don’t use “Happy Holidays” to avoid giving offence. They use it because the manufacturers of greetings cards realised that making a catch all card saved them a ton of money. Also-just in case anyone doesn’t know- nobody ever suggested that Christmas be renamed Winterval.

SleeplessInWherever · 16/07/2025 12:19

@OhCrumbsWhereNow

I’ve just read the letter. It said the day was;

“designed to promote inclusion, understanding, and appreciation of different backgrounds, traditions and heritages”.

Different as in not British. Inclusion as in the inclusion of minority groups.

It’s patently obvious what it meant. It was a cultural diversity day - White British isn’t culturally diverse, as Courtney rightly points out.

EasternStandard · 16/07/2025 12:20

SleeplessInWherever · 16/07/2025 12:14

If school knew that Courtney's dad was likely to take umbrage at their reaction then they were very silly to do anything other than be relieved her dress was actually a decent length.

Since when did schools start measuring their responses to things based on whether someone’s parent will take umbrage. I don’t think so.

He sent her in wearing it to get a reaction, and received a reaction. Textbook goading behaviour. Knew exactly what he was doing.

But no way should the school be judging how to respond to something based on how bothered her father would be.

Why was the dress a problem? The request didn’t rule it out.

CurlewKate · 16/07/2025 12:21

EasternStandard · 16/07/2025 12:14

The school have apologised. It’s more on mn that posters are going for the girl for some reason.

Whois “going for the girl”?

OhCrumbsWhereNow · 16/07/2025 12:24

SleeplessInWherever · 16/07/2025 12:19

@OhCrumbsWhereNow

I’ve just read the letter. It said the day was;

“designed to promote inclusion, understanding, and appreciation of different backgrounds, traditions and heritages”.

Different as in not British. Inclusion as in the inclusion of minority groups.

It’s patently obvious what it meant. It was a cultural diversity day - White British isn’t culturally diverse, as Courtney rightly points out.

It says 'different' - is being British different from being French or Indian or Gabonese?

And 'inclusion' means including everyone.

Why would 'inclusion' mean excluding a whole chunk of children from their own school's event?

It's this kind of interpretation that is the problem.

And why wouldn't children from minority groups benefit from understanding more about the people and traditions of the country they live in?

EasternStandard · 16/07/2025 12:26

CurlewKate · 16/07/2025 12:21

Whois “going for the girl”?

I’ll answer after you do. Any response yet to pp on your claims without evidence?

Merrymouse · 16/07/2025 12:26

MyHeartyCoralSnail · 16/07/2025 12:14

Supporters of the left, those waving round Palestine flags are far more gullible. People are experiencing very real issues and have been for years, those in power are ignoring them, they feel that people like Robinson listen to them.

Again, you are confusing the issues with Robinson.

If people who feel that Robinson is listening to them are just falling for another scam.

JudgeJ · 16/07/2025 12:27

bumblecoach · 16/07/2025 06:55

Having read the speech I can’t put my finger on it but I didn’t like it and it didn’t sound like it was written by a child. They probably know exactly what the parents are and exactly what the motivation was and have Tommy Robinson on speed dial ready to launch, Unfortunately, the school took the bait

Edited

Rubbish is the politest reply I can make.

EasternStandard · 16/07/2025 12:27

SleeplessInWherever · 16/07/2025 12:19

@OhCrumbsWhereNow

I’ve just read the letter. It said the day was;

“designed to promote inclusion, understanding, and appreciation of different backgrounds, traditions and heritages”.

Different as in not British. Inclusion as in the inclusion of minority groups.

It’s patently obvious what it meant. It was a cultural diversity day - White British isn’t culturally diverse, as Courtney rightly points out.

No it said everyone must wear something to reflect their heritage. You’ve got that part wrong

It didn’t mean exclude one group as you’re suggesting here.

EasternStandard · 16/07/2025 12:27

SleeplessInWherever · 16/07/2025 12:19

@OhCrumbsWhereNow

I’ve just read the letter. It said the day was;

“designed to promote inclusion, understanding, and appreciation of different backgrounds, traditions and heritages”.

Different as in not British. Inclusion as in the inclusion of minority groups.

It’s patently obvious what it meant. It was a cultural diversity day - White British isn’t culturally diverse, as Courtney rightly points out.

No it said everyone must wear something to reflect their heritage. You’ve got that part wrong

It didn’t mean exclude one group as you’re suggesting here.

JudgeJ · 16/07/2025 12:28

SidekickSylvia · 16/07/2025 07:27

So, in Britain, everyone can be proud of their culture and celebrate it, unless they're British?

You sound surprised! Twas ever thus.

CurlewKate · 16/07/2025 12:28

EasternStandard · 16/07/2025 12:26

I’ll answer after you do. Any response yet to pp on your claims without evidence?

You asked me to reply to a particular post made at 11 this morning. I did. See my post of 12.20.

SleeplessInWherever · 16/07/2025 12:29

OhCrumbsWhereNow · 16/07/2025 12:24

It says 'different' - is being British different from being French or Indian or Gabonese?

And 'inclusion' means including everyone.

Why would 'inclusion' mean excluding a whole chunk of children from their own school's event?

It's this kind of interpretation that is the problem.

And why wouldn't children from minority groups benefit from understanding more about the people and traditions of the country they live in?

I think most people can work out that when you focus on inclusion, it’s weighted towards those who are currently excluded.

We don’t talk about the needs of the able when we’re discussing the inclusion of the disabled, for example, do we.

White British culture is already the majority, the included not the excluded. That wasn’t what the day was for, and her father knew that.

I also think children from other cultures know that we have fish and chips, tbh.

My reckoning is that the father is known to be right wing leaning, as a minimum, and this poor kid has been punished for that. The intention was always to get a reaction, so he could report to Sir Tommy and the papers, and he’s got what he wanted.

Using your kid to do it is a different matter, in my book.

Tauranga · 16/07/2025 12:29

SleeplessInWherever · 16/07/2025 12:19

@OhCrumbsWhereNow

I’ve just read the letter. It said the day was;

“designed to promote inclusion, understanding, and appreciation of different backgrounds, traditions and heritages”.

Different as in not British. Inclusion as in the inclusion of minority groups.

It’s patently obvious what it meant. It was a cultural diversity day - White British isn’t culturally diverse, as Courtney rightly points out.

It also said "students represent their heritage"
Which is what she did.

School "Culture Day' - why didn't school see this coming?
deadpan · 16/07/2025 12:30

From what I've read the school didn't send her home. But she felt uncomfortable enough for parents to come and get her early.
I'm all for cultural diversity, but for it to be diverse you need to include all the cultures at the school.

SleeplessInWherever · 16/07/2025 12:31

EasternStandard · 16/07/2025 12:27

No it said everyone must wear something to reflect their heritage. You’ve got that part wrong

It didn’t mean exclude one group as you’re suggesting here.

I’ve just read the letter, in the article in the OP. The section I included was directly copied from that article.

I haven’t got it wrong, that’s what it says 😂.

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