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anyone with a child aged 7ish on ORT in year 2 - what level is usual

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gigglewitch · 18/04/2008 15:50

My DS1 is dyslexic as far as we know, and he is still on the level 5 books. c'mon, what do you nice lot know??

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CountessDracula · 18/04/2008 15:51

I have no idea but dd is in reception and on Level 6 - are there two different scales?

If he is dyslexic then I wouldn't be surprised if he is finding it harder though (of course!) Has he been formally diagnosed?

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gigglewitch · 18/04/2008 16:17

thanks cd this is the sort of stuf i need to know
he is on an IEP for it and they're doing various testing.

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ImightbeLulumama · 18/04/2008 16:18

DS also dyslexic, was on ORT level 5 for most of year 2, finally making onto level 6 towards the end of the year.

jicky · 18/04/2008 16:19

ds2 is 6 and year 2 and currently on ORT level 11. The children in his class getting extra support with reading (think one maybe dyslexic) are on ORT level 4/5 I think. Looks like year 2 should be reading levels 6-9 according to their web site - and your ds is reading where an average year1 child would be (assuming they do a level per term).

CountessDracula · 18/04/2008 16:20

What is IEP?

Sorry I just thought you wanted comparisons

DD gets all sorts of odd books though
I am never sure which level is which or if there are differnt scales (eg does reception go from 1-6 and then they start again at 1 in yr 1??)

Miggsie · 18/04/2008 16:22

I am deeply suspicious of ORT after I found the level 1 book contained the word "miserable" which I though was a bit of a big word for a first reader. I said this to DD who replied: "I know mummy, I can't even pronounce it, so how can I read it?"
I fell off the bed laughing. we both agreed the books were rubbish and went back to Amelia Jane.

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gigglewitch · 18/04/2008 16:23

you got it, yes just want comparisons - need to find out exactly how far behind he is

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gigglewitch · 18/04/2008 21:07

any more info for my unscientific research please?

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Dottydot · 18/04/2008 21:11

Hi - I think level 5 is probably most common in early year 1. Ds has just started on level 6 books and he's in year 1 - and he's not a confident reader and probably in the bottom half of the class for reading.

Orinoco · 18/04/2008 21:12

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gigglewitch · 18/04/2008 21:13

orinoco - they're gonna be fab readers!

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Orinoco · 18/04/2008 21:33

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luckylady74 · 18/04/2008 21:43

My ds1 is dx with aspergers, but isn't the classic brainy type and has aa lot of difficulties with the academic work. He is in yr1 and is on level 2.
I have to tell myself over and over that it doesn't matter what the other children at school do - as long as he makes progress at his level. He couldn't read his name or write it when he started in reception. Now ds1 can write a short sentence with some help and is confident with the alphabet. Most of his class are 2 levels or more above him, but I need to shake myself and dh and say 'he is doing well'!

sphil · 18/04/2008 23:14

DS1 is nearly 7 and on level 8 but his best friend (not 7 until Aug) has only just moved from Level 5 to 6. No-one seems unduly worried. His writing is MUCH better than DS1's.

I remember that Level 5 was the one DS1 was on for the longest - maybe there's a big step up to Level 6?

Dottydot · 19/04/2008 04:26

Sphil - We're experiencing big gap syndrome between 5 and 6 at the moment with ds1. Poor thing is really struggling. He hates reading, which dp and I then struggle with as we're both avid readers and the house is full from top to bottom with books. He won't ever read 'naturally' - things on telly, shop signs etc. He's just not interested and sees it as "Hard Work".

Same with writing.

But he's a numbers genius and can do strange things like double virtually any number you give him. The thing he likes doing most is doing numbers quizes and begs us to set him hard sums!

They're all different...

yurt1 · 19/04/2008 08:00

ds2 (year 1) is on chapter books - I've just asked him and he said no-one in his class is on ORT anymore (but I don't think they do all the levels they switch across to a different reading scheme at some stage). I think that must be unusual though and his class is small.

I would highly recommend Marion Blank's book the Reading Remedy for anyone with a child struggling with literacy. She is (I hope, depends if he's compliant enough) going to help us teach ds1 (non-verbal, severely autistic) to read and write. She really knows her stuff about reading, and I thought her book was very interesting. (Easy read as well).

yurt1 · 19/04/2008 08:05

DottyDot- one thing about boys is that they often prefer fact books. DS2 can read very well, but has only recently started to choose to read as a leisure type activity- and all he reads is books about birds! I bought him lots of Horrid Henry/Spy Dog boys type fiction and he's just not interested. Given the RSPB guide to garden birds and he's reading away though and takes it on holiday with him along with his nintendo. His teacher said that's quite common amongst boys and wasn't really something I'd appreciated.

I think it's only recently that his reading has become good enough to read the type of books he wants to read iyswim- so it may be that once it clicks with your ds he becomes an avid reader as well- just not of things you expected (give him a maths type factual book for example and he might be well away).

Cappuccino · 19/04/2008 08:08

dd2 is 7, in yr 2, on level 9

NotQuiteCockney · 19/04/2008 08:23

DS1 is 6, in year 1, and only did ORT to level 11 or something, is now on easy chapter books.

He reads everything now (I have to hide MN pretty often) but has only really been voluntarily reading everything since he was at around level 5.

LIZS · 19/04/2008 08:33

In dd's year 2 there is a huge range from about Stage 5/6 up to free readers

Miaou · 19/04/2008 08:48

Dottydot and others with reluctant readers - dd2 was like this at this age. I can't honestly remember what level she was on in P2 but probably level 5, and would never read for pleasure (or even necessity, eg what was coming on next on Sky!). Then all of a sudden over Christmas, at the age of 9.3, it "clicked". Overnight she found it much easier, and then rocketed through all seven Harry Potters in a matter of weeks (she is now reading them for a second time!). She still struggles with her writing (dd1 could write better - in terms of handwriting and spelling - in reception - we try not to compare them!), but she is at least enjoying reading for the sake of it now.

The other thing, as yurt said, was non-fiction books. She is passionate about animals and wildlife in general - a few highly-illustrated books on the subject helped to draw her in in a non-scary way

sphil · 19/04/2008 08:52

DS1 reads chapter books ar home - Astrosaurs and Magic Treehouse are his current favourites - but like Yurt's DS2 he also really likes non-fiction. I would agree with NQC - he's only been voluntarily reading stuff since Level 5. It obviously is a bit of a reading milestone!

Buda · 19/04/2008 09:16

DS is 6.8 and in Yr 2. Is now on Stage 7 ORT. A bit below where they say he should be but he is progressing well and really into reading at the moment.

I go in and help with reading every week and there is a big range within the class. It is an international school however with children with English as a second or even third or fourth language.

Dottydot · 19/04/2008 09:52

Yurt1 - hello! Good idea re: fact books - he likes books on planets and science but I hadn't thought of seeing if he wanted to read something like that himself (doh!).