Do any LEAs still have the 'first/middle/upper' (ie 4-16) school structure anymore?

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I'm just curious, really. I did (UK) village primary 4-11, grammar 11-18. Private schools in Australia, particulary new ones are getting into the P-12 structure, as in Preschool to end of education, year 12, all on one site. They tend to make a big song and dance about HOW IMPORTANT the middle years are ie yr 7-9 ('Middle school') so as to get state to private parents to commit a year earlier! (state schools do years 1-7, 8-12)Does anyone see any advantages/disadvantages in the different ways of going about it?

My kids will do 4-7 (infant), 8-12 (primary) and 12-16 (secondary).

But other schools in the town are 4-11, just dependent on the site and historical background.

Bedfordshire has first/middle/upper schools - 4-9, 9-13 and 13-16(18).

They thought about changing it last year, but didn't.

ours changed to two schools about 5 years ago. i really wished they'd left them as they were

Hey Idris, I was just about to post that - are you in bedfordshire?

they still do this on the Isle of Wight and I think, some parts of Wiltshire

some schools in hertfordshire are primary, middle and upper buntingford/puckeridge come to mind. And Australia is going more towards usa EDUCATION system with middle schools. The eastern states are alining there ed. systems which is why there is a prep year being introduced in Queensland. To fit in with NSW and VIC (kindigarten/prep) You will find that ed. queensland is training teachers specifically for middle school and have set up direct links between primary and secondary schools for middle school education. I went to a private school in Australia that was p-12 so a continum of schooling in the one school, it offers parents a one stop shop instead of looking for a private primary and then secondary.

As a teacher I think middle years are very important in regards to social and emotional identity.

Mine are doing infant / junior / secondary. The other school near us does that too, but some in the city nearby are primary.

DH went to a p-12 school, they're planning on buildinga few in this country iirc. DH said it was most sensible.

Bits of Worcestershire do First + Middle. Other bits do Infant + Junior.

I believe that teachers in the F+M system grump about the extra work involved in liaison because they have to 'hand over' the kids part-way through the Key Stages.

Also, in Middle school, Parents don't like their innocent Year 5s learning bad habits from the older, teenage kids.

they ahve just changed in Northanst which has meant that the old middle school sites have been sold and all schools in Northampton are being refurbished and in some cases completely knocked down and rebuilt.

Think Beds is one of the few lea's that still do it - don't know why they changed their minds on changing it last year - money probably! I personally liked the system when I was at school.

Most middle schools have been phased out. Which is a shame IMHO

Round with us they are 4-11 and 11-18

I think it is quite disruptive to move school twice.

We have this first, middle and upper where I am in Dorset. Though it gets a bit confusing as the church schools are primary & secondary and some of children go off to the Grammar at 11 or 12. Then one of the schools in our system is in a neighbouring LEA where they are going to change from the three tier system to the primary & secondary.

I wish we had primary and secondary really as DD has dyspraxia and I think she could do with another few years before she has to cope with the moving round for lessons thing.

And where we lived in Somerset before moving here had the same system as we have.

I've just started teaching in one of the few middle schools left around here. It's a very odd system as just two secondary schools in our LEA have this system. I love it - it's a great age group to teach and IMO gives them an extra couple of years of being children without the pressure of the older ones.

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We are East Dorset, there has been a big consultation thing about it after North Dorset's change and Poole's forthcoming one, but supposedly we are being left as we are. I do wish they would change it though as I am really quite stressed about DD coping with 2 moves of school.

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Got to put dd to bed now, but I will be back later.

Parts of Worcestershire are still 3 tier (First, Middle, Higher), but one large area is currently going through the change to 2 tier (Primary and Secondary).

Honormatopoeia posts on here and she is going through that review at the moment. (I got out!!!!)

i work in a middle school
parts of tyne and wear and northumberland still have it
though i will be gone before long...

i am passionate about middle schools I really am
great system

oh yes we had a review in 2000 and certain sub areas changed to two tier but our small area did not

Some parts of Staffordshire still have it - although not for long.

bits of dorset have middle schools still

Norfolk and Suffolk have them, I think maybe Cambridgeshire as well? According to local news it's being phased out. My dd hasn't started school yet so I'm not exactly an expert.