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WHY IS FRENCH / GERMAN TAUGHT MORE THAN SPANISH?

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HAPPYFACE · 11/05/2006 20:15

My dh and I had a choice of french or german in state secondary schools. When I said to him some primary schools are starting to do french he said he couldn't understand why spanish isn't taught more. Isn't it more spoken throughout the world than french and german? Thus making it more useful in adult life!
If we have got it totally wrong I'm sorry! Blush
If we are correct, can something not be done?

OP posts:
geekgrrl · 17/05/2006 10:46

yes, weird huh?

fsmail · 19/05/2006 16:17

I think German is easier to learn in terms of rules becauce everything follows rules but Italian and French are slightly more irregular. However German is harder at the beginning because of all the rules but much easier when the fundamentals are learnt and the accent is much easier to learn than some of the more romantic languages. It is also very good to swear in German when you are driving. Not a good enough reason I know but great when the kids are in the car and they don't understand you.

Nome · 19/05/2006 17:10

I was an MFL teacher until I had ds. I taught German and Russian. I would call my level of fluency 'near native' in German - I grew up, went to secondary school there, sound German, get taken for German, but don't visit often enough to keep up with current slang. I learnt Russian for 9 years, spent two years living in Moscow and still struggle with it. The 'native sounding' people on my degree course went native and lived with Russian boyfriends or girlfriends. I only ever managed to be taken for someone from one of the Baltic states.

As a teacher, it is very difficult to get pupils to a high level of fluency as only the most motivated will put in the hours outside the classroom which are required. For A-Level, a student should be doing self-study (surfing the web, reading magazines, watching films, learning vocab. etc) and homework. We reckoned that one hour of teaching required at least one hour of independent study to get an 'A'. It is always obvious who puts in the hours.

I trained ten years ago, and we were required to teach in the target language all the time. Of course, many MFL teachers are not subject specialists.

Regarding the OP, Spanish GCSE entries have just overtaken German entries. French will be dominant for a while yet, as it is a chicken and egg situation regarding teachers. More children learn French at school, so more people study French at university and become teachers, so more French teachers are available, so timetabling is easier, so French is offered. Parents also, ime want their children to have the option of learning French. It is a big financial committment for a school to offer a new language on the timetable. Unfortunately there a lot of places that money needs to be spent in a school and MFL is frequently not a priority.

Ellbell · 23/05/2006 00:20

Surely it's not true that German 'follows the rules'. I remember spending hours and hours learning the relevant bits of strong verbs (bringen, bringt, brachte, gebracht... or something???). And what about plurals... there is NO way of knowing how a specific German word will form its plural (or if there is my teacher was seriously deficient, which is always a possibility). Of course, Romance languages also have their irregular verbs, but at least you know how to make the word plural!

I also beg to differ that German is easier to pronounce. I could never ever get the glottal stop right in 'er ist'. My teacher despaired, as I used to say 'errrrrist'. Much easier in a language which lets you roll all the words into one (also covers a multitude of sins if you're not sure of the ending).

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