should creationism be on the science syllabus

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\link{http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-2078747,00.html\ Interesting article}

lol mb, we'll all have to come out in support if you ever get into trouble for refusing to teach the syllabus...

bet you never thought about this particular moral dilemma when you went into teaching...

I will padlock myself to the lab door!

so mb would you teach it in the context of this exam board?

.. and, actually, to continue my thought, I wonder what Gosse's dad would have thought of the contemporary incarnation [word used advisedly] of his theory? Because despite his desperate need to justify literal Scripture, he was clearly a very gifted and conscientious (in the sense of not dreaming to twist facts) scientist. I wonder if he would be appalled too.

As a side step, we are not doing OCR next year and it isn't on the Edexcel sylabus.....do I don't have to chain myself to anything just yet

I would be prepared to inform the children that there are people who belive in creationism. For example in year 9 we inform the children of other ideas about the organisation of the universe....that the ancient egyptions belived that the sky was the over arching body of a godess......we then go on to explain why this is wrong, and how modern cosmology is scientific, and makes prdictions that can be tested,

Hell would freeze over before I would teach 'Intellegent Design' as any form of science at all.

YOu need to explain why it is wrong???

Kathy

One of my middle set class this year, an averagly intellegent 13-4 year old honesly thought that the sun went round the earth. She was also almost still thinking that the moon was made of cheese.....I shit you not!

Just can't read this thread as it gets me so frustrated.

of course it shouldn't - it has nothing to do with science. It's a discussion for history of science classes - it deserves a passing mention - or RE classes.

\link{http://education.guardian.co.uk/higher/research/story/0,,1560047,00.html\This} is a good article on the reasons why creationism isn't the 'other side' of the debate - there isn't a debate, full stop.

Did anyone see the very scary program Richard Dawkins did about Creationism in America? I thought it was very good and very scary. I mean, where to they come from?

expecting to teach creationism is a science lesson is like expecting a german teacher to teach French in a german lesson, and tell the kids that it is actualy german.

why are people even asking this?

in RE or general studies, maybe. in science: no.

NB like morningpaper says, it might be an idea to have some ethics etc in science but creationism is not ethics. Just no!

no.
this is not mid-west america.

It is not a science - it is a set of beliefs do eh, no.

I still can't read this thread.
The idea of teaching it as a theory in science is just so brain-pulverisingly stupid.

em - should be so, eh no as opposed to s short burst from the Sound of Music

Pruni - top link.
I like the idea of teaching 'the stork theory' in sex education classes.

actually, to those who say creationism should be taught as part of a history of science: that's one of the scary things about it - I think I'm right in saying that it isn't old at all, it's a new theory dreamed up by religious nuts who don't know the meaning of allegory but who want to show that they are not the closed minded literalists of old.

I'd go and check that but am not in the mood for religious people today.

But a history of science class would have to include lots of things that have happened or been mooted quite recently, wouldn't it?

"But you ever notice how people who believe in Creationism usually look pretty unevolved. Eyes really close together, big furry hands and feet? "I believe God created me in one day." Yeah, looks like he rushed it."

(sorry more Bill)

Aha - thank you MB - one of your posts below has explained why DS came back from the British Museum on Sunday all excited because a godess was making a bridge with her body from Brixton to Egypt....

\link{http://www.venganza.org/\very funny!}

I aim to please Blu!

My day today has not been wasted then

MB we have a lot of spaghetti monster paraphenalia in this household...

Sigh, I really wish that Aloha had been here for this thread