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robinw · 16/09/2003 13:31

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prufrock · 17/09/2003 10:30

Would second the susan cooper books - I've just re-read them. Also the chalet school series. Another favourite from childhood was Little Lord Fauntelroy - can't remember the author, and the swallows and amazons series. And Wind in the Willows and Alice are classics that every child should read.
I was (still am) also an avid reader - My Mum used to chase me outside to get some exercise so I actually used to read whilst riding my bike!

tigermoth · 18/09/2003 13:50

FYI Goosebumps books are written by someone called R L Stine.

I have been asking my son why he gave up on the 5th Harry Potter book. He said the characters were too old and it was more boring than the others (he is re-reading the others for the umpteenth time). I notice he steers clear of any book that starts to probe emotions, friendships, or shock horror boyfriend/girlfriend storylines. Finding books that meet his level of maturity can be diffucult. He doesn't like teenage characters on the whole.

janh · 18/09/2003 14:35

prufrock, Little Lord F was Frances Hodgson Burnett - the Secret Garden and Little Princess lady.

tigermoth, DS1 LOVED Goosebumps when he was 8-10ish, in fact they really got him reading, but DS2 doesn't read anything except football magazines. I bought him Time Stops for No Mouse at the school Bookfair and he just shoves it under his bed.

I will ask DS1 if he can remember what he particularly liked as well as Goosebumps - there were the Animorphs, are they still around?

aloha · 18/09/2003 14:38

Tigermoth, would he like science fiction? Eg John Wyndham. I used to read it at around 11 and loved them all thought they terrified me. There are relationships in the books (shock horror) but also very big scary monsters! Also Alan Garner is scary -ish. Grinny is scary too.

janh · 18/09/2003 14:56

Is he old enough for Terry Pratchett? (Haven't read them myself so don't know what they're like!)

SoupDragon · 18/09/2003 15:03

Has anyone suggested Diane Wynne Jones? I loved her Chrestomanci series (about a wizard and alternate worlds). Terry Pratchett has written childrens books too - I think that amongst others, the series which included Diggers and Truckers was for children.

robinw · 19/09/2003 06:23

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tigermoth · 19/09/2003 13:38

thanks for the suggestions. You can obviously see where I am coming from. ie my son avoids anything by Jacqueline Wilson with a bargepole. Sadly I have to say.

I think he might have read some Terry Pratchett books at school, and liked them, so I will see if I can get more. Isaac Asimov and John Wyndam were two of my favourte authors when I was a teenager and I'll try and hunt out some of their more child orientated stories.

Philly · 19/09/2003 13:46

My ds (9)is enjoying the Vernon Bright seies at the momentby Steve Skidmore the first one is called Vernon Bright and the Magnetic Banana ! also keen on Anthony Horowitz and Michael Morpurgo,Jeremy Strong and some of the others already mentioned.Together we are reading Tom's Midnight garden,this was a favourite of mine as a child and I thought it might be a little dated but he loves it.

Other recent successes include Max the boy who made a million by Gyles Brandreth (!)and Roddy Doyle's The Giggler Treatment,he also likes the Pure Dead series by Debbie Gliori and of course Harry Potter abd Jaqueline Wilson (although I do think you need to watch these as she does write for a wide age range)

DS2 ages 6 is heavily into Mr Majeika by Humphrey Carpenter and we have the whole series now I think and also Horrid Henry

kmg1 · 19/09/2003 16:18

Robinw - loads of Goosebumps books on ebay. I just bought 25 today on your recommendation Tigermoth ... so I hope ds1 likes them (They were very cheap).

Twinkie · 19/09/2003 16:57

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robinw · 20/09/2003 03:07

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candy · 20/09/2003 17:11

Hi Philly - I don't know if you're anywhere near Birmingham or not, but if you are "Tom's Midnight Garden" is coming to the Old Rep theatre in November

kmg1 · 01/10/2003 20:36

We're currently big fans of Michael Morpurgo ... so just thought I'd let you know The Book People have an offer this month of 4 of his books for £4.99: The Butterfly Lion; Cool; Toro Toro; Billy the Kid. (We've got the Butterfly Lion, so that will do as a birthday present for someone else).

robinw · 02/10/2003 06:27

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tigermoth · 02/10/2003 09:16

thanks as well, kmg. I'll hunt out my copy of the brochure. My ds is presently reading Harry potter for the umpteenth time. He's finished all his Goosebumps books and, since the beginning of term, rejected three or so non HP books after just a chapter or so.

In his school reading record book he has to write brief reviews as he goes along. I also have to add my own thoughts on his reading from time to time. So I have made my son write down the reasons why he keeps harking back to HP books and I will add to this. He says he thinks HP books are more exciting and better written than any other books he starts, so he just can't get into most non HP stories.

I know his teacher wants him to expand his reading experience so I am wondering if we will get to the stage where we have to ban HP books for a while. This time last year I was really pleased he was reading HP, but now it's becoming a bit of an obsession with him. I have also promised my son that we will go to a book shop or our local library at the weekend when he will have lots of time to browse the shelves till he finds something else that attracts his interest. I daren't risk buying books over the internet or mail order at the moment, even though it would save money. I think ds has see the book in the flesh as it were, before he chooses it. But once the book is chosen and taken home, the deal is he must read it!!

janh · 02/10/2003 10:10

tigermoth, has he tried Famous Five or Secret Seven?

kmg1 · 02/10/2003 19:05

Tigermoth - have you tried Jenny Nimmo - Children of the Red King series? The first one is Midnight for Charlie Bone - it's very Harry Potter-esque, similar scenario in some ways, but is well-written, and captivating for kids. We borrowed story tapes from the library and then ds1 read the book himself - other than HP it's the longest book he's read. We finally got hold of the sequel 'Time Twister' from the library on Friday, and he finished it on Monday ...! Apparently it's 'fabulous'.

I'm sure there are reviews on Amazon that can describe it better than I can.

The Michael Morpurgo books are beautifully written, but often shorter - so more accessible to a reluctant reader, but do tend to have quite complex plot/structure, which if mastered can be quite satisfying. Many of them deal with unusual subject matter too - last night ds1 read 'Dear Olly', which touches on the war in Rwanda and landmines. 'Cool', which I've mentioned before, sees a child in a coma in hospital go to the brink of death (and back).

Can you do anything else to tempt him to read? DS1 sometimes watches a film or listens to a storytape (on long journeys), and then wants to read the book himself. We also encourage him to write to authors whose work he enjoys (not JK) c/o their publisher or agent, and he always gets replies. If they mention other titles, then ds1 is always very keen to read these suggestions.

HTH

robinw · 03/10/2003 07:17

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Copper · 03/10/2003 09:27

tigermoth
my ds1 loved - absolutely loved,devoured, consumed - the Edgeworld series by Paul Stewart and Chris Riddell. The first is called Beyond the Deepwoods and this is the Amazon review of it ... Here is a tale of fantastic lands at the edge of the world, where certain rocks float in the air and the feared Deepwoods are crowded with extraordinary trees and creatures. Paul Stewart tells the story with considerable input from Chris Riddell's copious and wonderfully detailed line drawings of fabulous creatures, often reminiscent of Tenniel's or Mervyn Peake's grotesques. Overall the narrative has a familiar shape, as the young lad Twig who's been raised by woodtrolls learns that his destiny lies elsewhere, and blunders off through the Deepwoods to find teeming horrors, unexpected friends, comic menaces, enslavement as a pet, his true parentage, and the nature of his feared nemesis the Gloamglozer. It's all told with joyously inventive relish, and the cavalcade of life never slows: sky pirates, smelly halitoads, hover worms, slaughterers, hammelhorns, caterbirds, skullpelts, bloodoaks, gyle goblins and their Grossmother, spindlebugs, milchgrubs, banderbears, wig-wigs resembling carnivorous tribbles, the very disgusting rotsucker, and more--each illustrated in loving detail. Though generally reviewed as a novel for children (like Stewart's previous books), Beyond the Deepwoods is more grown-up than many a routine "adult" fantasy series, and has the kind of compulsive readability that makes Harry Potter a treat for older readers too.

kmg1 · 03/10/2003 13:33

Thanks for this Copper - have picked up the first one at the library today for ds1 to try.

If anyone is interested these Edgeworld books are 3 for 2 at Ottakars at the moment.

Maybe I should get a job at a library or a bookshop - I just love buying books, can't control myself!

layla · 03/10/2003 15:08

My 9yr old boy cannot get enough of Horrible histories,horrible science,the knowledge and murderous maths.All excellently written.

JJ · 03/10/2003 23:03

Tigermoth, just to recommend some things that I like (along Harry Potterish lines): Chronicles of Amber by Roger Zelazny and I have just ordered the new Discworld (Terry Pratchett) book. Also, if he wouldn't mind a female protagonist, Coraline by Neil Gaiman is great. Then there's the Dune series by Frank Herbert and if he's a techy kind of guy, Snow Crash by Neal Stephenson is good. The good thing about Snow Crash is that Neal Stephenson has written some really excellent novels (Cryptonomicon and Quicksilver, which I haven't read, but have, right there, ready to start), so one thing might lead to another.

Dune and Snow Crash might have some more adult themes than you'd want for him, though. My dad weaned me on Isaac Asimov, too. I wanted to be Dr. Susan Calvin, except not so unhappy and with a man.

JJ · 04/10/2003 06:27

Woke up this morning thinking of "Good Omens" by Terry Pratchett and Neil Gaiman. (There are a couple of books, but it's this one . Actually, that's my top recommendation (wrt to the books I've mentioned).

Roald Dahl, also.