Can't have insulin when you are type 2

[Blossomflowers]

I am speechless. I have Diabetes so know a thing or two but this is not about me. My DP has recently been diagnosed and runs very high levels most of the time, He went for a blood test to check levels in preparation for review. He talked with the nurse who has sagely advised him that he will not be going on insulin as he is type 2 and still producing some. I am staggered at this ignorance.

WalkingDead - you have to say that you are a full-on 100% Dr B follower (currently practising) to join/access the Type1Grit FB page now. And some of the information about HBA1C and complications/Dexcom readings from people consuming carbs is a bit misleading. It's a shame because there is a lot of value in a low carb healthy fat diet.

He talked with the nurse who has sagely advised him that he will not be going on insulin as he is type 2 and still producing some.

Not going on insulin yet...? That's how I would take that. You sound unnecessarily annoyed.

t1mum3

Dr Berstein is a hell of a lot better than information we get in the UK.

Google Professor Roy Taylor. His work on T2 diabetics is increasingly showing that T2?diabetes is reversible with the use of a restricted calorie diet for 6-8 weeks. He's spent over 20 years researching diabetes.

Capt I am annoyed at the claptrap that gets spouted. Cleo is right this is surrounded in a distinct lack of knowledge and understanding. Maybe read the thread as I did give first hand examples of things that have been said to me, TYPE 2 ARE GIVEN INSULIN if required.

My adult child has type 1, my husband diagnosed with type 2 at beginning of year. Both on low card high fat diet as recommended by Diabetes UK ,husband has blood sugar levels at 4-5 before eating, lost about 20kgs so far, still losing weight steadily. I am trying very hard to get him to a point where he can stop taking his one dose of metformin daily so watching him like a hawk. I have to say he was sent on a course with diabetic nurse who gave advice re diet which basically was the low card,high fat as mentioned above. I do think the message is coming through that the first choice is diet but is that specific diet. I've come late to this thread but just wanted to say we have found it works for him.

Blossom said she was familiar with carb counting but never said what that meant to her. 20g a day? 50g a day? Or 100g a day?

I thought metformin plus diet and exercise were prescribed first line for type 2 diabetes?
Insulin is only given if it still isn't controlled with various tablets. Or a glp 1.
This is from memory of reading nice guidance for a family member.

Posters are correct in saying that type twos can have insulin, my mother in law is on it. Diet plus Metformin is usually first. Most people on diabetes sites rave about low carb high fat but it doesn't suit everyone. I'm on a very low fat diet for other reasons which means I eat more carbs than a low carber but my blood sugars are well within target and my cholesterol has reduced considerably

Jenala our local nurses recommend 140g carbs for type 2

I was lucky enough to meet a expert in the field and she was brilliant, she put me on insulin nothing else seemed to work.

Can you share who this expert is?

do you think the T2 came on very suddenly in your DP, or is there another reason why he wasn't diagnosed until his levels were quite bad?

We’ve been on the receiving end of this type of comment from a nurse . My elderly mother is type 2 on insulin and sitagliptin ( or whatever the nhs do now instead of that ) , she had a fall a couple of years ago , went to minor injuries and was going through her various ailments with the nurse who said ‘you can’t be type 2 if you are on insulin you must be type 1’ . We put her straight although I would imagine she’s still spouting this rubbish to other people possibly who believe her .