The Tate Modern

[UnquietDad]

Was in London for work this week and managed a quick pop to the Tate.

Liked a lot of the dadaist and surrealist stuff, but come on, some of it, esp. the minimalism is really taking the piss.

I mean, this, FFS It may be a cliche but my 5-year-old DS really could have done it.

They're filling in "the Crack" right now so the Turbine Hall is empty. I wanted to ask if the filling-in was itself an act of art.

I also had a really HORRID blueberry muffin which was the texture of sandpaper and fell apart on the plate in nasty little bits. I was thinking of giving it free to Nicholas Serota and entitling it "Hunger". It was a profound exploration, I thought, of the interface between the eating and the eaten, and invited the observer to reflect on the fundamental dichotomies and hypocrisies of the affluent world's attitude to waste.

Bluewolf on Ronseal
Jeff Koons load of wank
Damian Hirst some wank some great
Chris Olfili waver waver
Rothko great

So Unquiet, art has to have "effort" put in to make it good?

Ideas?

Concepts?
or "effort" like a school report?

Great idea Miro but a bit more effort next time

I'd forgotten about Jeff Koons - I liked the big flowery dog but not the hideous ornament pieces of him and his wife in various positions

Its pretend kitsch isn't it

Hi mary!
ButterflyMqueen, it's surprisingly difficult to imitate , to put in an apparent insouisance (oohh like that word) control and not over egg the pudding.
I always think a great painter knows when to stop.
Knows what not to put in.
Knows where craft stops and art begins.

Many people can copy.
Not many can translate.

Some people can do a one off, an accident, a happy coincidence which works, but it's more difficult to produce a body of work.
What some peope don't take into account is that most great artists are absolutely capable of making a "realistic" representation, but that they choose not to. They choose to put a different perspective on something.

I am absolutely capable of writing a "realistic" novel. I could, however, choose to produce one with two hundred blank pages followed by a single page with the word "existence" on it in 8-point type right in the middle. But I choose not to. Because if I did, I'd look like a wanker.

Plus, no one would buy it. Except maybe Charles Saatchi

a wanker whose book no-one would buy

Strangely, people like Rothko tho'

unquiet, the devil's advocate of art criticism.
Can you slag off another modern artist please?

i thpought rothko was very accessible maybe he isnt as accessible as i thought then

I,m not sure unquiet's writing and Rothko's drawing skills are compatible really.

I meant comparable, too much lunch wine...

I think Rothko is accessible. I've never met anyone before who didn't like him

Shall we see how many times we can say Rothko in this thread

He's the only artist unquiet can remember from the tate

Which means he has had an impact on him.......its a start UQD

i like jasper johns i am guessing UQ hates him too

i am not so fussed on howard hodgkin

Rothko is the artist all those house make over people copy when they want to put "modern art" in their newly made over house.
He is the Linda Barker of artists.

very mark Rothko, very Linda Barker, he goes with the look.
He's an accessory of artists!

what about rauschenberg

challenge to my typing that

or cy twombly

or antonio tapies...an artist i love

christian boltanski might be someone you like UQD ?

i like his work

Oh I like Hodgkin. I like the depth he manages.
Do you think he put effort into those frames though?
Marks out of ten

Oh Tapies Zippi- GORGEOUS! and rauchenburg, like his textures too.

yep tapies great

now i started this thread last week what do reckon

here

not the same league

northern/cammelia - read the thread - I have mentioned at least 3 others.

UQ do you like any of the ones I mentioned

Zippi, I have to say i didn't like ruth claxton, give me leonora carrington any day.
As ideas though, clever, and disturbing.

I can only see Gillian wearing unquiet.
Apart from Matisse and the ones who "put in some effort"
Did I miss some?